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One of Mason McRae’s favourites.



Averages 96-97 with an option. Would love to add him to the AAA pen.
 
For San Diego it's apparently Manoah/Berrios/Bassitt. Kikuchi pitched Sunday so I doubt he's back Friday. Pen? Ryu? Gausman? Does it then look like Kikuchi then Manoah Saturday and Sunday? :dunno:
 
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One of Mason McRae’s favourites.



Averages 96-97 with an option. Would love to add him to the AAA pen.

What's interesting about him is that his decline of the past two years correspond to him changing how he pitches. Bringing him in and getting him to throw more fastballs could unlock the quality reliever that he was two years ago. He's currently throwing a slider 36% of the time, but that doesn't make any logical sense. If you bring him back to FB - Curve - Change, I think we see much better results.
 

Weird list so far. Kirk and Guerrero Jr. made it but Gausman didnt. I assume Bichette is the only other Jay left.


Also FG predicts the Jays to finish the season with the most wins in the AL and 4th in the rest of the league.


They predict the Jays to finish the season with the 4th best bullpen. Baltimore the only AL team ahead of them.
 
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Weird list so far. Kirk and Guerrero Jr. made it but Gausman didnt. I assume Bichette is the only other Jay left.


Also FG predicts the Jays to finish the season with the most wins in the AL and 4th in the rest of the league.
Gausman is in the HM article. Keep in mind that contract is a huge factor in trade value, so a Kirk has insane trade value even when he is struggling.
 
Gausman is in the HM article. Keep in mind that contract is a huge factor in trade value, so a Kirk has insane trade value even when he is struggling.
Yeah i get that but i rather 3 years of the 2nd best pitcher in fWAR since 2020 at $23M than 3 more years of Kirk at arb numbers.

Kirk's career fWAR: 5.0
Gausman's 2022 fWAR: 5.7 (and he is on pace for 6.7 WAR this season)

Kirk is a good player but he only had 1 very good season.
 
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Yeah i get that but i rather 3 years of the 2nd best pitcher in fWAR since 2020 at $23M than 3 more years of Kirk at arb numbers.

Kirk's career fWAR: 5.0
Gausman's 2022 fWAR: 5.7 (and he is on pace for 6.7 WAR this season)

Kirk is a good player but he only had 1 very good season.
But the FG Trade Values series is about value, not overall skill. That's why Trout doesn't make the list.
 
But the FG Trade Values series is about value, not overall skill. That's why Trout doesn't make the list.
I get that too but Trout's contract is big but he did make the list last year along with other players with longer deals like Tatis, Betts and Ramirez. Gausman's contract is one of the best values in the league. If Gausman goes to free agency, he could get $150M+ over 5 years. He has $69M left at 3 years.

I would argue that Gausman's 5-6 WAR average at $23M per is more valuable than Kirk's average of 2.5 WAR at arb numbers.

According to Surplus value, this is how they are valued;

Gausman: 72. 6
Kirk: 26.5
Guerrero Jr.: 16.5

To me it isnt even close.
 
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How does Bohrofen come in under slot? That makes no sense. Sure he's a college guy without much leverage. But he was ranked in the 2nd round. I can't believe nobody else had an extra 50k above slot available to offer him in the 6th round
 
How does Bohrofen come in under slot? That makes no sense. Sure he's a college guy without much leverage. But he was ranked in the 2nd round. I can't believe nobody else had an extra 50k above slot available to offer him in the 6th round

Yeah a lot of the Jays draft doesnt make sense but all positives for the Jays. Perhaps most lists are vastly different than MLB.com's because the Jays had a great draft without a 2nd round pick. Even with a 2nd, this is still a very good draft.
 
Nimmala nice and decisive showing some leadership going underslot.
Any body on the hockey side listening?
 
LOL.....that's not how it works.
I get that they’re different situations between sports, but kid was ranked way higher than he was picked, had all kinds of leverage, and just signed underslot by what….17-20%?
That’s decisive to me.
 
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I get that they’re different situations between sports, but kid was ranked way higher than he was picked, had all kinds of leverage, and just signed underslot by what….17-20%?
That’s decisive to me.
They would have drafted someone else if Nimmala wasn't willing to sign under slot.

Has nothing really to do with decisiveness or leadership.

It was a draft strategy by the Jays.
 
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