Would absolutely love to get Stroman back. But every AL East team could use him. I expect TB to be after him especially with their rotation issues. What would a trade even look like. For a pure rental that we’ll have for only a few months I wouldn’t be willing to give up multiple top prospects. A bidding war would kind of scare me but on the hand we’re clearly in win now mode
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BlueForever75
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I dont know why the Jays are looking for SP prior to deadline?
I think their rotation is in great shape. Gausman, Bassitt, Berrios and Kikuchi give the Jays an opportunity to win every game. We hope Manoah turns it around second half as hes shown in last 2 starts (1 at Triple A, and last start before break). Ryu is on his way back. That makes out rotation 6 deep. I wouldnt waste assets on a SP.
Where they should be looking is at a shutdown arm in the bullpen to add to what they have, and a power bat that can be a DH to help produce runs. The bat they get should be able to play positions in the field as well.
Thats where the focus should be.
I think their rotation is in great shape. Gausman, Bassitt, Berrios and Kikuchi give the Jays an opportunity to win every game. We hope Manoah turns it around second half as hes shown in last 2 starts (1 at Triple A, and last start before break). Ryu is on his way back. That makes out rotation 6 deep. I wouldnt waste assets on a SP.
Where they should be looking is at a shutdown arm in the bullpen to add to what they have, and a power bat that can be a DH to help produce runs. The bat they get should be able to play positions in the field as well.
Thats where the focus should be.
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phillipmike
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Wow under slot for Nimmala and by a lot. Wasnt expecting that at all.
If we were talking about another Kikuchi/Bassitt-level, ~4 ERA, inning-eater, then I would agree there isn't much sense spending assets to add to the rotation. But Stroman has a sub-3 ERA this year and peripherals that dwarf everyone the Jays have outside of Gausman. He gives them a MUCH better chance of winning any given game than Bassitt and Kikuchi do.
I don't think they'll get him - there will be a ton of interest and I would always bet the field over a single team - but raising the ceiling of the team would be huge and they should absolutely be trying to do that.
My number one priority would be a lefty-mashing OF - the one they should have gotten in the offseason - followed by high-ceiling talent for either the rotation or the pen. With Ryu and Green coming back, they suddenly have pretty decent floors/depth in both areas, so I would want to see them aim high.
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Nate LaRue agrees to free agent deal with Blue Jays
AUBURN, Ala. – Senior catcher Nate LaRue has agreed to sign as an undrafted free agent with the Toronto Blue Jays.
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Jays took LaRue in the 2019 draft but didnt sign. They signed him as an undrafted free agent.
So far Nimmala, Maroudis, Goodwin, Shaw, Arnold and LaRue signed .
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That explains the draft strategy of taking a bunch of highly-rated guys without really having to punt any picks that we talked about on draft day. Those savings probably cover everyone else's bonuses.
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Makes me think he might have priced himself up higher to teams he didn't want to land with and obviously had a number agreed to with the Jays ahead of time.
I’m actually quite stunned how low Arjun signed for. He was a top 5-7 pick on Keith Law’s board. The Jays knocked this draft out of the park. Maraudis was supposed to be a tough sign as well
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Jays appear to have a good 'in' with Florida prep prospects as they can sell them on the state of the art facilities in Dunedin, and then play in the FCL, followed by Dunedin on the next step up the chain. Parents can watch their kids play live until they get to High A Vancouver.
It's a much harder sell if their spring training site and facilities were in Arizona....
It's a much harder sell if their spring training site and facilities were in Arizona....
What's murky regarding Bassit? Aside from his first start and and a few others he's been great for us. I'm a big fan of what Kikuchi has done this year as well, granted he's struggled here and there but as a 5th starter I have zero issues and given how dominant Bassit and Gausman are with an extra days rest I really like the idea of going with a 6man rotation. My only question is if Manoah will be part of said rotation? But again with 6 guys even if Manoah doesn't get all the way back 6 guys equals less starts and also allows for a ton of flexibility if he really goes down, I dunno my gut tells me he's never going to be what he was last year and not sure he's a Jay long term.
The next couple of weeks I guess will dictate if they add a high-end guy or not rotation wise.
For once the pen isn't a weakness and as for the fielders I honestly don't know what to think.
Despite basically underachieving all year we are 12 games over 500 despite being 7-20 vs the AL East, there likely is a correction coming in thar regard because clearly we are much better than that
On a positive note the last 10 or so games offensively the team has been much better with RISP, and we are finally showing that two out jam we saw a lot of with this group.
I like what a previous poster said about making a big splash like we did with Tulo.
A huge move while obviously making the team better also can be a huge thing mentally and momentum wise, while also keeping a competing team from acquiring that player.
Now who knows if he even becomes available but if Ohtani is made available the Jay's I hope would be willing to give up a massive package.
In theory, you would have the usual suspects like the Dodgers, Yankees, Phillies, Braves? Along with a number of teams that that are on the upswing like the Rangers, Orioles, etc and then underachieving teams like the Mets, Padres, Mariners etc likely in the sweepstakes as well but in reality the Jay's could field a competitive offer if they chose to.
Money wise there's enough coming off the books that it should be doable and who car3s about the tax, this is a massively deep ownership and get a guy who's an ace and a legit superstar at the plate killing two birds as well as the massive revenue he would generate trumps everything.
Being in Canada I think is a plus as well since we have a ton of appeal towards players from Asia.
I'm not a big "prospect" guy especially in baseball where there's no hard cap so I'd gut the farm in an instant, considering our rosters window is now not 3-5 years away. Plus if an AL east team gets him that's even worse.
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I agree with you. 7-20 against the AL East is something I can’t really explain. 0-7 against Boston specifically is just absolutely inexplicable.
Fair - I meant for the playoffs and did not include that. Kikuchi is more than fine as a #5 but don't see him as anything more than a one time through the order guy in October.
Bassitt doesn't have any noticeable splits with extra rest. He is maybe someone I'm comfortable with starting Game 4 of a playoff series but is in no way someone who I want out there in a WC elimination game.
Ryu and Manoah are the wildcards but I don't see how we end up with enough concrete info in the next two weeks to dictate one way or the other. As such I am all for adding another good SP and if you end up with too much pitching so be it.
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That’s huge huge for the jays. I don’t think any of us expected that. Goes a long way to helping get the others done
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Nimmala coming in that far under slot is shocking. I was wondering how it was going to work with all our picks. Nimmala coming in 20% under slot wasn’t on my bingo card.
Either he overplayed his hand and had to take what was left, or he played his hand this way on purpose to get picked by the Jays or perhaps actual MLB organizations were lower on him in general than scouting agencies were. Not sure we’ll ever know
Either he overplayed his hand and had to take what was left, or he played his hand this way on purpose to get picked by the Jays or perhaps actual MLB organizations were lower on him in general than scouting agencies were. Not sure we’ll ever know
I’d do Kikuchi, White and a decent prospect for Stroman. But I think we should be targeting a back end reliever. Hunter Harvey would be my target.
And the crazy part is, right now Merrifield is playing the role of lefty-hitting corner outfielder, and while he doesn't hit for power, he has a 114 wrc+ vs left handing pitching for his career and 100 this season. Espinal has a 115 wrc+ vs lefties for his career and he should have growth in the 2nd half. He can't possibility continue to be this bad vs lefties.
Garcia is probably the weakest link in the bullpen when Green returns, and he's really picked up.
And Ryu/Kikuchi is the weakest starter.
The floor on this team is really high, so anyone we bring in will essentially have to be an all-star pitcher or at least a 110-115 wrc+ vs lefties outfielder for it to be worth it.
I'd be looking at players like Stroman, Hunter Harvey or Tommy Pham.
Suntouchable13
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Is there a concern now that they don’t have a Moreno to spend on getting one of those things? How are our prospects looking as far as perceived value? Is our bait good enough to land a relatively big fish?
trellaine201
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Ohtani is only doable if Atkins/Shapiro both think this is “all in” type year because just to keep the Angels on the phone and listening is going to involve 4 of our top prospects. Who knows if he’s even going to get traded but Damn just the thought of him here would bring momentum level up near it was when we got Tulo and Price.
Keith Law tweeted out that he’s extremely surprised Arjun signed for that low. Says he left a lot of money on the table.
Keith Law tweeted out that he’s extremely surprised Arjun signed for that low. Says he left a lot of money on the table.
Been away for a few days, so I haven't been paying attention to Jays news. Nice to see them get a sweep of the D Backs.
Are there any big outstanding names from the draft for the Jays still not signed?
Are there any big outstanding names from the draft for the Jays still not signed?
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