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anyone have any ideal trade targets since we are in season

Jack flaherty is strugging an might be able to be had this season if the cost is right
tyler Oniell would be nice as well

the cards and padres are my prime targets if they continue to struggle

getting snell would be a nice get too
 

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Might be OT but any recos on best way to get Jays tickets? Directly through bluejays.com/ tickets? Looking to pick up lower level tix to the Cubs game on Aug 11th.
 

After earning a win in the Cubs’ 10-4 victory over the Red Sox on Saturday at Wrigley Field, Marcus Stroman said he is not expecting a contract extension prior to the trade deadline.

"I am open to it," Stroman said. "I just don't think it's going to happen. Like I said, there are zero hard feelings. I have a great relationship with (the Cubs’ front office ) I love everything here. I just don't think they are in a position to sign me before the deadline. Yes, I hope they will be in the mix in the offseason. I love the city and the fan base. Whatever happens happens. If I have to go somewhere else for two months to pitch, so be it. I am in a good space mentally, so I am in a good place regardless."


Cubs president of baseball operations Jed Hoyer said on Friday that the team's performance can still dictate which direction to go over the next two weeks in the trade market. According to MLB sources, the Blue Jays are one of the teams that have expressed strong interest in what may be a Stroman sweepstakes by the last week of July.

Both the Cubs and Jays have done their due diligence on the strength of each other's farm systems.
Stroman was drafted and promoted through the Blue Jays’ system before getting traded to the Mets during the 2019 season. He compiled a 47 -45 record with Toronto and a 3.76 ERA in six seasons.

The 32-year-old Stroman is 10-6 with a 2.88 ERA over 20 starts this season for the Cubs.

Numerous other American League East clubs will also have feelers out on Stroman. Industry reports have as many as 10 clubs in baseball looking for starting pitching. Stroman, along with the White Sox pitchers Lucas Giolito and Lance Lynn, appear to be the most talked-about rotation pitchers available for acquiring this month. The Cardinals are also considering moving some rotation pieces after having a brutal first half.

Stroman has a $21-million player option with the Cubs for 2024, which he is expected to decline. He could be seeking a five-year contract in free agency this offseason.


"I think that if they don't reach an agreement, and it doesn't appear they are talking, you might as well deal him," USA TODAY writer Bob Nightengale said on 670 The Score’s ‘Inside the Clubhouse’ show on Saturday. “He has already said he will hit free agency and take that opt- out and run with it. The team that makes the most sense is the San Francisco Giants. The same thing for him applies to Giolito. I think the Cubs will have 10 teams calling about Stroman. He is a great competitor and loves the big stage. There is a reason he has always excelled in the WBC and things like that. Of all the pitchers out there, I think he is the surest bet because he is not going to falter in the big moment."
 

After earning a win in the Cubs’ 10-4 victory over the Red Sox on Saturday at Wrigley Field, Marcus Stroman said he is not expecting a contract extension prior to the trade deadline.

"I am open to it," Stroman said. "I just don't think it's going to happen. Like I said, there are zero hard feelings. I have a great relationship with (the Cubs’ front office ) I love everything here. I just don't think they are in a position to sign me before the deadline. Yes, I hope they will be in the mix in the offseason. I love the city and the fan base. Whatever happens happens. If I have to go somewhere else for two months to pitch, so be it. I am in a good space mentally, so I am in a good place regardless."


Cubs president of baseball operations Jed Hoyer said on Friday that the team's performance can still dictate which direction to go over the next two weeks in the trade market. According to MLB sources, the Blue Jays are one of the teams that have expressed strong interest in what may be a Stroman sweepstakes by the last week of July.

Both the Cubs and Jays have done their due diligence on the strength of each other's farm systems.
Stroman was drafted and promoted through the Blue Jays’ system before getting traded to the Mets during the 2019 season. He compiled a 47 -45 record with Toronto and a 3.76 ERA in six seasons.

The 32-year-old Stroman is 10-6 with a 2.88 ERA over 20 starts this season for the Cubs.

Numerous other American League East clubs will also have feelers out on Stroman. Industry reports have as many as 10 clubs in baseball looking for starting pitching. Stroman, along with the White Sox pitchers Lucas Giolito and Lance Lynn, appear to be the most talked-about rotation pitchers available for acquiring this month. The Cardinals are also considering moving some rotation pieces after having a brutal first half.

Stroman has a $21-million player option with the Cubs for 2024, which he is expected to decline. He could be seeking a five-year contract in free agency this offseason.


"I think that if they don't reach an agreement, and it doesn't appear they are talking, you might as well deal him," USA TODAY writer Bob Nightengale said on 670 The Score’s ‘Inside the Clubhouse’ show on Saturday. “He has already said he will hit free agency and take that opt- out and run with it. The team that makes the most sense is the San Francisco Giants. The same thing for him applies to Giolito. I think the Cubs will have 10 teams calling about Stroman. He is a great competitor and loves the big stage. There is a reason he has always excelled in the WBC and things like that. Of all the pitchers out there, I think he is the surest bet because he is not going to falter in the big moment."



I feel like there is a 0 percent chance this happens considering Stroman’s relationship with the Jays and this front office. Plus in a few weeks the Jays could have 6 starters, possibly 7 with White. Unless the Cubs want Kikuchi, Ryu and/or White back, I can’t see Stroman making sense for the Jays.
 
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I feel like there is a 0 percent chance this happens considering Stroman’s relationship with the Jays and this front office. Plus in a few weeks the Jays could have 6 starters, possibly 7 with White. Unless the Cubs want Kikuchi, Ryu and/or White back, I can’t see Stroman making sense for the Jays.


Would they even "express strong interest" if the relationship was that bad?
 
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I would absolutely love to have Stroman back in our rotation. Only if the Cubs are willing to take 1 of Kikuchi or White back in the deal.

Gausman
Stroman
Berrios
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Manoah
Ryu
 
Would they even "express strong interest" if the relationship was that bad?

It is a rumor so we don’t know if they did or didn’t. I just can’t see it being the case considering the Jays don’t need another starter and how Stroman bad mouthed this FO more than once on his way out.

My buddy agrees and brought up a good point, saying it could be the agent leaking this information to get more suitors. Could also be the Jays leaking it too knowing they have no interest so their competitors like the Yankees, O’s and potentially Rays have to pay more.
 
It is a rumor so we don’t know if they did or didn’t. I just can’t see it being the case considering the Jays don’t need another starter and how Stroman bad mouthed this FO more than once on his way out.

My buddy agrees and brought up a good point, saying it could be the agent leaking this information to get more suitors. Could also be the Jays leaking it too knowing they have no interest so their competitors like the Yankees, O’s and potentially Rays have to pay more.
I think the mostly likely scenario is that they've actually expressed interest since he's a good pitcher and that all happened four years ago.

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Another left-handed hitting OF is one of the last things they need. I really like the idea of Dylan Carlson that someone brought up recently.
 
I think the mostly likely scenario is that they've actually expressed interest since he's a good pitcher and that all happened four years ago.

I’ll believe it when I see it. I find it incredibly hard to believe considering the history and lack of need as I mentioned.
 
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I feel like there is a 0 percent chance this happens considering Stroman’s relationship with the Jays and this front office. Plus in a few weeks the Jays could have 6 starters, possibly 7 with White. Unless the Cubs want Kikuchi, Ryu and/or White back, I can’t see Stroman making sense for the Jays.

I wouldn’t have issue with Stroman but there’s really no need for him. We have more than enough strong starters for the post season. Unless he comes cheap I don’t see the fit or need
 


I feel like there is a 0 percent chance this happens considering Stroman’s relationship with the Jays and this front office. Plus in a few weeks the Jays could have 6 starters, possibly 7 with White. Unless the Cubs want Kikuchi, Ryu and/or White back, I can’t see Stroman making sense for the Jays.

I think that Shapiro and Atkins have a lot thicker skin than a few of our previous GMs. It wouldn't shock me if we were in fact doing scouting on Stroman since he would be a quality higher end of the rotation guy.

The drawbacks to a Stroman deal are 1) That he's likely a pure rental and 2) That we likely have to bid against TB, Baltimore, NYY.
 
I think that Shapiro and Atkins have a lot thicker skin than a few of our previous GMs. It wouldn't shock me if we were in fact doing scouting on Stroman since he would be a quality higher end of the rotation guy.

The drawbacks to a Stroman deal are 1) That he's likely a pure rental and 2) That we likely have to bid against TB, Baltimore, NYY.

Oh man, can you imagine Stroman pitching against the Jays in a wild card series? That would suck.
 
I think that Shapiro and Atkins have a lot thicker skin than a few of our previous GMs. It wouldn't shock me if we were in fact doing scouting on Stroman since he would be a quality higher end of the rotation guy.

The drawbacks to a Stroman deal are 1) That he's likely a pure rental and 2) That we likely have to bid against TB, Baltimore, NYY.
Yeah, we're not talking about adding another depth guy to the rotation mix here: Stroman would probably slot in right around Berrios as the #2/3. He's clearly better than Bassitt and Kikuchi, and he's way more of a sure thing than than Manoah and Ryu. It would be stupid (and/or petty) of management not to be looking into someone who would make the team a lot better.
 
I think that Shapiro and Atkins have a lot thicker skin than a few of our previous GMs. It wouldn't shock me if we were in fact doing scouting on Stroman since he would be a quality higher end of the rotation guy.

The drawbacks to a Stroman deal are 1) That he's likely a pure rental and 2) That we likely have to bid against TB, Baltimore, NYY.

Sure, i think scouting and "showing strong interest" in getting a deal done are 2 very different things. I'm sure this front office looks at all rentals but i have a hard time believing the Jays will be a top contender for Stroman.

There were rumors the Jays FO wanted to move off that 2015-16 core due to clubhouse issues coupled with declining play. We heard and saw things about JD, Tulo, Stroman, Bautista and even Russell Martin playing video games during games. Stroman has countless off the field issues and some rumors that affected players that are likely currently on the roster when the accusation was made he kicked out 30 minor league players out of the weight room in 2019 during spring training so he can work out alone.

I think this FO sees merit in a strong clubhouse and they spent the last off-season removing some personalities or players who didnt appear to give it their all on defense like Lourdes, Tapia and Teo to add guys like Mattingly, Belt, Varsho, Kiermaier, Bassitt etc. I cant see them bringing back a guy who doesnt fit this culture who they know first hand.
 
There's a big difference between 2019, where Stroman was one of the more senior members on the team and thus expected to be a clubhouse leader, and bringing him in now.

Would love for us to add a starter because right now beyond Gausman and Berrios its very murky out there.
 
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