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Discoverer said:
Teoscar - 102 wRC+
Gurriel - 135 wRC+

Varsho - 97 wRC+
Kiermaier - 131 wRC+

There's a slight downgrade there while they went from a below average defense to elite and they added one of their best relievers. They also added Belt.

They've scored 317 runs this year. Through the same number of games last year, they had scored 323. That doesn't seem particularly significant to me.
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Eyedea said:
Gurriel last year is essentially what Merrifield has been doing sans the baserunning/defensive flexibility. Varsho’s been relatively fine from a power standpoint. Not Teo but not Tapia either. Kiermaier has been good offensively.

Really, as has been mentioned by myself and others, I truly believe there’s a mirage at play. Players who performed well last year are scuffling this year, and the overall offensive numbers look underwhelming because they’ve been impacted by one of the more pitcher friendly parks this year (the dome). So while they might look bad, relative to the conditions they’re still good.
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The team is nowhere near as potent offensively as they were last season. Even last year they had problems stringing hits and base runners together, but at least they had power through the lineup and could put up big innings out of nowhere. This season they have the same problem but even less power through the lineup so the offense is like squeezing blood from a stone.

Runs scored the last few games:

2-2-2-3.

Did last year’s team ever have a stretch like that? Maybe they did, but this year seems a degree worse than last.

And as for the tough opposition argument … some of these teams were behind us significantly last season. Other teams have gotten much better while we’ve gotten worse. Jays have owned Baltimore recently … not this year.

I’ll also add that a significant number of the runs scored this year came earlier when both Vladdy and Chapman were hitting close to .400. Now that they’ve both settled back down to close to career norms, the offense is basically Bichette and the occasional big game from Belt/Merrifield/Springer/Kirk/Jansen/Biggio.
 
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The team is nowhere near as potent offensively as they were last season. Even last year they had problems stringing hits and base runners together, but at least they had power through the lineup and could put up big innings out of nowhere. This season they have the same problem but even less power through the lineup so the offense is like squeezing blood from a stone.

Runs scored the last few games:

2-2-2-3.

Did last year’s team ever have a stretch like that? Maybe they did, but this year seems a degree worse than last.

And as for the tough opposition argument … some of these teams were behind us significantly last season. Other teams have gotten much better while we’ve gotten worse. Jays have owned Baltimore recently … not this year.

I’ll also add that a significant number of the runs scored this year came earlier when both Vladdy and Chapman were hitting close to .400. Now that they’ve both settled back down to close to career norms, the offense is basically Bichette and the occasional big game from Belt/Merrifield/Springer/Kirk/Jansen/Biggio.
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Jays were struggling against the Os last year too, no? At least since Rutschman came aboard. Only the Boston series seemed like a fluke this year since we destroyed them last year. Other than that the Jays have held a solid record against non BAL/BOS teams this year.

And yes, the Jays had a similar stretch offensively last year. Early in the season (May?) there was a lot of one run wins and the bullpen was saving them often. Chapman, Bo, Teo, Gurriel, and Biggio were struggling. Vladdy, Springer, Kirk, and Espinal were the saving grace of the offence. This stretch may have extended into June this year but they’re also in one of the hardest stretches of a schedule I’ve seen them play. Not a lot of easy opponents to date.
 
Ran across an article that one of my all time favourite Jays, going back to the childhood days, big Jesse Barfield, was inducted in to the Canadian Baseball Hall of Fame today. So of course, next step, search YouTube for all time Barfield tosses.

Didn’t disappoint. Trip down memory lane if you are old enough, if you’re on the younger side, I’ll say this. Obviously this is cherry picking some greatest outfield assists of his but.. none of them are “surprising” per se. He made these throws all the time, like they are saying in the video, mostly guys just didn’t run on him.


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Half these guys are out by like 15 feet lol..
 
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trellaine201 said:
For everyone freaking out about the Varsho trade. Gurriel is 1/29 lately.
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That one hit (HR) came last night but this is exactly what people should’ve seen when he was in the package. Gurriel can both be an extremely fun and an extremely frustrating player to watch. If the hits aren’t there, he’s a detriment to the team. At least Varsho can bring value in multiple ways and his offence is starting to break out this month. Here’s hoping that can continue. End of the day that trade always came down to Moreno/Varsho and it’ll be awhile before we can say for certain who won the trade.
 
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Maybe they will fire the batting coaches?

Eyedea said:
That one hit (HR) came last night but this is exactly what people should’ve seen when he was in the package. Gurriel can both be an extremely fun and an extremely frustrating player to watch. If the hits aren’t there, he’s a detriment to the team. At least Varsho can bring value in multiple ways and his offence is starting to break out this month. Here’s hoping that can continue. End of the day that trade always came down to Moreno/Varsho and it’ll be awhile before we can say for certain who won the trade.
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Yah and I think Gurriel is a FA after this year if I am not mistaken.
 
Whatever happened to Dante Bichette? He was a Jays coach at one time and seemed to disappear quietly? Was that during those “allegations”?
 
trellaine201 said:
Whatever happened to Dante Bichette? He was a Jays coach at one time and seemed to disappear quietly? Was that during those “allegations”?
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It seems as though Dante Bichette resigned from the Toronto Blue Jays before the abuse allegations began to circulate on social media.

www.sportsnet.ca

Bo Bichette says father Dante resigned from Blue Jays due to lockout

Speaking to Jeff Blair and Kevin Barker, Toronto Blue Jays infielder Bo Bichette discussed Dante Bichette's decision to resign from his job during the MLB lockout and whether he has a timeline on when he wants to sign a contract extension.
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February 9, 2022, 9:03 PM

With the MLB lockout preventing team employees from interacting with players, Dante Bichette put his relationship with his son Bo Bichette first by resigning from his position with the Toronto Blue Jays.

The Blue Jays shortstop explained the decision in an interview with Jeff Blair and Kevin Barker saying that his father wanted to work with him.

"Yeah, the father-son relationship comes first so my dad resigned from that job to be able to work with me and not have that affect anything," Bichette said on Blair and Barker Wednesday night. "So we'll see happens in the future. But yeah, for right now. He's taken. You know, he wants to be with me as my teammate."

With players not able to work with their clubs during the lockout, Bichette has been working out in a batting cage his father put together and also has a baseball field beside his parents' house and his high school. This has allowed him to stay ready for when the lockout ends and players have to report for spring training.

 
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Jays should be able to sweep the A's. The A's starters in the series aren't good at all.

Martinez has walked twice so far tonight. Cooke continues to strikeout guys at a very high rate.
 
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trellaine201 said:
Whatever happened to Dante Bichette? He was a Jays coach at one time and seemed to disappear quietly? Was that during those “allegations”?
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He resigned during Covid. Our bats really have declined since he left with the exception of Bo coincidentally.
 
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The All Star voting is kind of a joke :laugh:
Bichette maybe, but Merrifield is a finalist for 2B starter?!
 
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