HF Habs: The official 2023-2024 tank thread

[Riggins]

Top 5 will be well within reach. We're about to be back to .500 in a hurry after that lucky 5-2-2 start.

I only see SJ and Chicago as definitely worse than us. We should battle with the likes of Columbus, Philly, etc. for the next spots. Anaheim and Arizona seem like they are taking a step ahead and St. Louis and Washington should still be better. Edmonton will wake up and Calgary isn't this horrible.

 

[Habitant#1]

“The Habs are too good to finish bottom-5”

Ha!

 

[Gustave]

Welp

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

I'd deal him right away just in case he injures himself. His value is at its highest it's been in years.

These two things put together, on top of having had so many injuries in the last few years, makes it obvious what we should do.

Now watch Monahan get injured before they try to move him.

 

[montreal]

Team is way too good to finish bottom 5 lol

Unless we are riddled with injuries (like last year), your dreams of finishing bottom 5 are technicolour dreaming at best!!

Expect us to be picking 10th overall, this would be an enormous win for our trek to a cup!

Might want to re-think that one.

 

[Nevins]

Let's just hope that Monahan, Pearson and maybe Allen don't get injured and that we can receive some interesting draft picks in return. We seriously need talented forwards

 

[Sorinth]

I'm not sure the people who wanted to wait until PLD became UFA wanted to acquire PLD that badly. And considering how PLD has looked in LA, I don't think anyone who wanted to wait for PLD to reach free agency is all that fussed about not paying Winnipeg's price right now.

My point exactly. This whole trade and re-sign is just there so that people can pretend that they actually want Monahan when they don't actually care that much.

I disagree.

Your assumptions are just that, assumptions. They aren't any more grounded or valid than that.

All I suggested is what's best case imo... And if you think players & management don't come to informal agreements that affect contract decisions, I would offer that perhaps your assumptions aren't grounded in the real world of pro sports.

Except they are grounded in facts unlike yours. The fact is the situation is quite rare and when it does happen it's usually a case of family wanting to not move.

As for informal agreements, yes they happen, but they happen because both sides have something to gain. As an example look at the KK offersheet followed by the long term deal, both sides gained something by having that informal agreement in place. Monahan gains nothing in your scenario because the contract offer will be there opening day of FA whether he's agreed to it beforehand or not.

 

[Miller Time]

My point exactly. This whole trade and re-sign is just there so that people can pretend that they actually want Monahan when they don't actually care that much.

Except they are grounded in facts unlike yours. The fact is the situation is quite rare and when it does happen it's usually a case of family wanting to not move.

As for informal agreements, yes they happen, but they happen because both sides have something to gain. As an example look at the KK offersheet followed by the long term deal, both sides gained something by having that informal agreement in place. Monahan gains nothing in your scenario because the contract offer will be there opening day of FA whether he's agreed to it beforehand or not.

why bother with a post like this where you contradict yourself?

That you can't see the "gain" is an issue with your awareness, nothing more.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Don't be sad , Tanking is good

 

[Gravity]

Such a chasm in talent between the good teams and ours. Yet we draft for culture.....

 

[Tanknation]

Welcome back everyone. I missed you.

 

[Miller Time]

Such a chasm in talent between the good teams and ours. Yet we draft for culture.....

What do you think TB has in place?

Don't say elite talent, Oilers & Laff have had just as much

 

[Gravity]

What do you think TB has in place?

Don't say elite talent, Oilers & Laff have had just as much

Elite talent that's well coached and complimented with a well balanced line up. We've gone down this road a 1000 times. You need elite talent to win cups. It's a prerequisite but not the sole requirement.

 

[Miller Time]

Elite talent that's well coached and complimented with a well balanced line up. We've gone down this road a 1000 times. You need elite talent to win cups. It's a prerequisite but not the sole requirement.

Elite talent
Strong culture

Can't win without either.

 

[Gravity]

Elite talent
Strong culture

Can't win without either.

It's easier to establish a good culture when you actually have the players to build around.

 

[Miller Time]

It's easier to establish a good culture when you actually have the players to build around.

Tell that to the oilers lol

Speaking from direct experience, I can tell you that sometimes getting rid of more talented players is a necessary part of building a culture of excellence... And can lead to better results both short & long term.

You still need elite talent to get to the top, but i'd argue that it's easier to add (& attract) elite talent to a great culture, than it is to build a great culture around elite talent with shitty attitudes

 

[WinterLion]

This is going to be a loooong season...

 

[Boris Le Tigre]

Roll tank!

 

[Grate n Colorful Oz]

This is going to be a loooong season...

Another sacrifice at the Altar of Bergevin, Almighty God of the Unmitigated Failure.

 

[HabsWhiteKnightLOL]

I told you everyone, after October habs can't play hockey anymore

 

[WinterLion]

Solid Loss. Last in the division is within reach... should happen very soon.

 

[sheed36]

Another top 5 pick or higher would be great. Knowing Bobrov and Lapointe will be making that pick again though makes me want to go vomit.

 

[HuGo Burner Acc]

Another top 5 pick or higher would be great. Knowing Bobrov and Lapointe will be making that pick again though makes me want to go vomit.

Watching the BTS of the last draft, it was clear Gorton preferred the michkov pick and Hughes let's his staff have the say when drafting which is fine. I believe if a talented winger is placed in front of them again, Gorton will override his scouts and make the decision as he deferred last year

 

[HabzSauce]

Back on!!!!! Woohoo!

 

[rahad]

We are back. Nice couple of win. But, we are facing good teams now. Habs always start the season strong.