HF Habs: The official 2023-2024 tank thread

[26Mats]

Bolts aren’t a good trading partner cause they have nothing to trade and they know a retool is coming.

Their 2026 or 2027 1sts aren't available?

 

[SwiftyHab]

They're actually well set on RD. They need LD.

Pretty sure we have a few of those too

 

[Chose]

Looking at how it is currently playing out, I am thinking we will end in the top 5, passing OTT & ARI.
At least that's what I am hoping for, for a chance at Lindstrom or Demidov.

Pretty sure they will tank for it.

Who do you think the top4 would draft if it stayed that way ?

CHI --> Celebrini
SJ --> Demidov ?
ANA --> Levshunov ?
CBJ: Eiserman ?

 

[Sunfyre]

Looking at how it is currently playing out, I am thinking we will end in the top 5, passing OTT & ARI.
At least that's what I am hoping for, for a chance at Lindstrom or Demidov.

Pretty sure they will tank for it.

Who do you think the top4 would draft if it stayed that way ?

CHI --> Celebrini
SJ --> Demidov ?
ANA --> Levshunov ?
CBJ: Eiserman ?

Eiserman very likely going to drop out of the Top 10…replace him with Dickinson

 

[Chose]

Eiserman very likely going to drop out of the Top 10…replace him with Dickinson

Yeah, heard that too. Do you think CBJ goes for a LHD ? Not quite familiar with those teams needs.

My fear is that one of those targets Lindstrom and another one targets Demidov. At that point, we are stuck with lower end forwards.

Thinking ANA will try to replace Drysdale with a RHD --> Levshunov, so we are safe on that side.
Celibrini is a lock at #1. Some say SJ might go after a D (Silayev ?).
I hope everything falls in place for Lindstrom or Demidov @ 5.

 

[Sunfyre]

Yeah, heard that too. Do you think CBJ goes for a LHD ? Not quite familiar with those teams needs.

My fear is that one of those targets Lindstrom and another one targets Demidov. At that point, we are stuck with lower end forwards.

Thinking ANA will try to replace Drysdale with a RHD --> Levshunov, so we are safe on that side.
Celibrini is a lock at #1. Some say SJ might go after a D (Silayev ?).
I hope everything falls in place for Lindstrom or Demidov @

CBJ have Warenski and a few good LD prospects in the system + Jiricek on RD. I think they go with a forward.

San Jose needs everything. Apart from Smith and Musty they don’t have much. Could see a defenceman if they don’t land Celibriny. On the other hand they have Pittsburghs pick which will be most likely in the top 16 so they can grab a defenceman there and pick the best available forward

Chicago could go for Levshunov if they don’t win the lottery.

Anaheim is kinda set on center so might go with a defenceman or a Demidov. They got very good D prospects but non of them screams Number 1 D.

Hope one of the teams is super high on Silaiev and let one of the big forwards drop. Number 5 pick could be enough to land one.

 

[Team_Spirit]

We have officially entered the let's hope we finish low enough for a chance at Demidov or Lindstrom szn

Like we learned nothing from last year.

Go Habs Go ~~~

 

[StCaufield]

The official tank every year and sell just to do the same thing the year after. Not saying the habs need to keep everybody this year but when does the selling stop to actually build something? The team would just be going in circles if that’s the case and we can only have so many picks which we’d be lucky if 1/4 of them even step on NHL ice. Would you want a roster player that can contribute a little and a pick for Savard? Or would you want yet another pick or 2

 

[26Mats]

We have officially entered the let's hope we finish low enough for a chance at Demidov or Lindstrom szn

Like we learned nothing from last year.

Go Habs Go ~~~

I'm happy we got Reinbacher last year. I don't think we get him if we don't finish that low in the standings. the lower the finish, the better, regardless of who we think the pick should be with the low pick heading into the draft.

 

[morhilane]

The official tank every year and sell just to do the same thing the year after. Not saying the habs need to keep everybody this year but when does the selling stop to actually build something? The team would just be going in circles if that’s the case and we can only have so many picks which we’d be lucky if 1/4 of them even step on NHL ice. Would you want a roster player that can contribute a little and a pick for Savard? Or would you want yet another pick or 2

Habs did that last year with Dadonov and they didn't even keep the guy.

Contenders won't trade anything important to their current line-up for a piece at the deadline, it's all mostly useless cap dumps.

 

[Colezuki]

The official tank every year and sell just to do the same thing the year after. Not saying the habs need to keep everybody this year but when does the selling stop to actually build something? The team would just be going in circles if that’s the case and we can only have so many picks which we’d be lucky if 1/4 of them even step on NHL ice. Would you want a roster player that can contribute a little and a pick for Savard? Or would you want yet another pick or 2

Next year is the start of the pivot IMO,

1st line ready for lift off alongside a top 10 PP, 2nd line on it's way with Dach and Newhook, assuming dach continues on his trajectory, just need to pick up a middle 6 winger to play with them or see Roy take over. Goaltending situation should be sorted and the defense should be all a year older, if there is something that holds us back it'll be the D. If we miss by a game I won't be surprised but I had us 8-12 this year and I didn't project Slaf taking this kind of step.

I'm cautiously optimistic tbh
Edit: so optimistic I took a $100 2:1 Odds bet that they do make it

 

[WeThreeKings]

Looking at how it is currently playing out, I am thinking we will end in the top 5, passing OTT & ARI.
At least that's what I am hoping for, for a chance at Lindstrom or Demidov.

Pretty sure they will tank for it.

Who do you think the top4 would draft if it stayed that way ?

CHI --> Celebrini
SJ --> Demidov ?
ANA --> Levshunov ?
CBJ: Eiserman ?

Chicago would be Celebrini.

San Jose has gone forward for every pick dating back to the first pandemic draft. They are taking Levshunov or Silayev.
Anaheim would take whoever is left of Levshunov or Silayev.
CBJ would take Lindstrom.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

The official tank every year and sell just to do the same thing the year after. Not saying the habs need to keep everybody this year but when does the selling stop to actually build something? The team would just be going in circles if that’s the case and we can only have so many picks which we’d be lucky if 1/4 of them even step on NHL ice. Would you want a roster player that can contribute a little and a pick for Savard? Or would you want yet another pick or 2

you're incredibly impatient.

 

[overlords]

I can't decide whether to brace myself for and accept what is sure to be a win or to be angry in advance.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I can't decide whether to brace myself for and accept what is sure to be a win or to be angry in advance.

Be angry in advance.

 

[StCaufield]

Habs did that last year with Dadonov and they didn't even keep the guy.

Contenders won't trade anything important to their current line-up for a piece at the deadline, it's all mostly useless cap dumps.

They took him for salary cap reasons I believe

you're incredibly impatient.

I never said make a cup run now or within 3 years. Simply saying do we really need to sell everybody and if we do why is it always picks. Why not get someone with potential or needs a fresh start? The entire team doesn’t have to be children

 

[Redux91]

I never said make a cup run now or within 3 years. Simply saying do we really need to sell everybody and if we do why is it always picks. Why not get someone with potential or needs a fresh start? The entire team doesn’t have to be children

Can you point out these people/targets out by chance?

 

[overlords]

They took him for salary cap reasons I believe


I never said make a cup run now or within 3 years. Simply saying do we really need to sell everybody and if we do why is it always picks. Why not get someone with potential or needs a fresh start? The entire team doesn’t have to be children

Hughes was shockingly up front in interviews about preferring a young player to the 1st rounder we got for mony. You can't make the teams give you what they don't want to give up.

I'll be very surprised if Hughes doesn't put together a package including several of our picks this summer for a young top 6 threat.

 

[morhilane]

Next year is the start of the pivot IMO,

1st line ready for lift off alongside a top 10 PP, 2nd line on it's way with Dach and Newhook, assuming dach continues on his trajectory, just need to pick up a middle 6 winger to play with them or see Roy take over. Goaltending situation should be sorted and the defense should be all a year older, if there is something that holds us back it'll be the D. If we miss by a game I won't be surprised but I had us 8-12 this year and I didn't project Slaf taking this kind of step.

I'm cautiously optimistic tbh
Edit: so optimistic I took a $100 2:1 Odds bet that they do make it

Habs are 8th-12th this year, but they only have 2 more points than last year after the same amount of games played....with one less win, also worst at home and scoring is not that improved.

2022-2023: 23-28-4, .455 home: 14-14-1, away: 9-14-3 150 GF, 200 GA ranks 7th
2023-2024: 22-25-8, .473 home: 11-15-3, away: 11-10-5 157 GF, 198 GA ranks 8th

 

[Colezuki]

Habs are 8th-12th this year, but they only have 2 more points than last year after the same amount of games played....with one less win, also worst at home and scoring is not that improved.

2022-2023: 23-28-4, .455 home: 14-14-1, away: 9-14-3 150 GF, 200 GA ranks 7th
2023-2024: 22-25-8, .473 home: 11-15-3, away: 11-10-5 157 GF, 198 GA ranks 8th

If I looked at stats alone in the way you just did no team ever would improve, I can see a measurable difference in team performance right now and im assuming some improvement to performance for next year on again not being the most injured team in the league

 

[morhilane]

If I looked at stats alone in the way you just did no team ever would improve, I can see a measurable difference in team performance right now and im assuming some improvement to performance for next year on again not being the most injured team in the league

I'm actually expecting next season roster to be more green then this year, since there are so many players on the last year of their contract this off-season and Hughes might want to move some of them in the off-season. That should result on more rookies/young players on the roster next season.

And the Habs aren't the most injured team in the league this year. That's Vega, followed by San Jose. Habs are currently 3rd, but Chicago is like one more injury away from taking that spot. Based on data from 2 days ago.

 

[Sorinth]

Habs are 8th-12th this year, but they only have 2 more points than last year after the same amount of games played....with one less win, also worst at home and scoring is not that improved.

2022-2023: 23-28-4, .455 home: 14-14-1, away: 9-14-3 150 GF, 200 GA ranks 7th
2023-2024: 22-25-8, .473 home: 11-15-3, away: 11-10-5 157 GF, 198 GA ranks 8th

How much of that is because last year in February the team went 6-3 so we are simply picking a timeframe that makes last season look better then it was?

Last year the team was quite inconsistent, October and November we were a game over .500, then had a .362 record in December & January, got hot in Feburary, and then fell apart again in March and April. It was very up and down season but that pattern of play hasn't repeated itself this season.

This year we've been pretty consistently close to .500 the whole year, we started out about the same and were 1 game below .500 after the first two months, but there was no collapse in December and January and we played .500 during those months, we didn't have a hot February but will probably finish February 1-2 games below .500 for the month keeping our play pretty much steady.

So even if there is some big post deadline collapse that brings our season totals close to each other, we will still have seen good growth from the team compared to last season.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

Well, Ottawa can get within 2 pts of Montreal with win @ Florida. I'm not really expecting it though. Florida is a good team.

Islanders @ Pens we just need Pittsburgh to put up a point. They have 3 games in hand.

Ditto. Devils @ Caps. A point from Washington is helpful. They have 2 games in hand.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

I'm actually expecting next season roster to be more green then this year, since there are so many players on the last year of their contract this off-season and Hughes might want to move some of them in the off-season. That should result on more rookies/young players on the roster next season.

And the Habs aren't the most injured team in the league this year. That's Vega, followed by San Jose. Habs are currently 3rd, but Chicago is like one more injury away from taking that spot. Based on data from 2 days ago.

Who is on the last year of their contract besides non entities Wideman and Pearson?

 

[Gravity]

Who is on the last year of their contract besides non entities Wideman and Pearson?

Totally forgot Wideman was on the team. Is he injured or scratched?