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Jets beat Pens 2-1. That moves Winnipeg within one point of Colorado, and they have 3 games in hand on the Avs. Colorado lost to Florida today. They also move within a point of Vegas.
 
I get your position but i think you try to paint our kids in a corner too soon. Slaf has the potential to be an elite player. He reminds me LeClair honestly and i think has the potential to be as good but earlier in his career. I'm impressed by his ability to use his body to create space on the ice at only 19.

If Dach can remain healthy the potential is still there and it's rather high. Could definitely become a good big 1st line center. We have seen this a couple of time player getting injured multiple times because of bad luck and then they find a way to remain heathy.

I'm not sure why everyone are not even willing to give a chance to Rainman honestly. I still don't like the pick but he could definitely become a Pientrangelo like dman which i'd say is elite status. We can still draft 6th this season and the player we'll get at 6 should be very close to any other player not named Celebrini.
Rainman has nowhere the physicality, aggression and meanness of Pietrangelo. These comparables to established players are always a stretch. I’d reserve judgment until I see him play in the pros.
 
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Suzuki is arguably top 20 right now, so feel free to send me an e-transfer lol
Lol not even close. Here's 20Cs better than Suzuki:
McDavid
MacKinnon
Matthews
Bedard
Crosby
Malkin
Eichel
Hintz
Pettersson
Miller
Reinhart
Aho
Barzal
Point
Barkov
Zibanejad
Stamkos
Thomas
Hughes
Draisaitl
Stutzle
Lindholm
Tavares
Hischier
Larkin
And soon to be: Fantilli, Carlsson, Celebrini

He's a perfect 1B/2A.
 
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Welp. Yotes be Yoting.
Lose in OT but at least they got the 1 point.
Enough to tie us and bump us based on games played.
 
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Arizona can't even beat worthless Nashville. Habs going to need to lose 90% of their games to finish behind Arizona.
 
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Lol not even close. Here's 20Cs better than Suzuki:
McDavid
MacKinnon
Matthews
Bedard
Crosby
Malkin
Eichel
Hintz
Pettersson
Miller
Reinhart
Aho
Barzal
Point
Barkov
Zibanejad
Stamkos
Thomas
Hughes
Draisaitl
Stutzle
Lindholm
Tavares
Hischier
Larkin
And soon to be: Fantilli, Carlsson, Celebrini

He's a perfect 1B/2A.

Reinhart isn't a center, he's a winger. Barzal is also a winger. Horvat is his center.

Lindholm is definitely not better than Suzuki, neither are: Zibanejad, Thomas, or Hischier. Suzuki hasn't hit his prime yet. A better team will see his points rise. I'm looking forward to seeing how he & Slafkovsky grow together.

Also, Fantilli is also currently a winger, and is likely to stay there.
 
Lol not even close. Here's 20Cs better than Suzuki:
McDavid
MacKinnon
Matthews
Bedard
Crosby
Malkin
Eichel
Hintz
Pettersson
Miller
Reinhart
Aho
Barzal
Point
Barkov
Zibanejad
Stamkos
Thomas
Hughes
Draisaitl
Stutzle
Lindholm
Tavares
Hischier
Larkin
And soon to be: Fantilli, Carlsson, Celebrini

He's a perfect 1B/2A.
Stamkos hasn't played C full time in years and he's also currently not better than Suzuki lol. Reinhart has literally never played C full time in the NHL. Tavares, Lindholm, Malkin and Zibanejad? What is this 2019 ? Barzal hasn't played C in 2 years. Can't take you seriously when you don't even know who plays center.
 
Stamkos hasn't played C full time in years and he's also currently not better than Suzuki lol. Reinhart has literally never played C full time in the NHL. Tavares, Lindholm, Malkin and Zibanejad? What is this 2019 ? Barzal hasn't played C in 2 years. Can't take you seriously when you don't even know who plays center.
And Stutzle and Thomas are NOT better than Suzuki.
 
Reinhart isn't a center, he's a winger. Barzal is also a winger. Horvat is his center.

Lindholm is definitely not better than Suzuki, neither are: Zibanejad, Thomas, or Hischier. Suzuki hasn't hit his prime yet. A better team will see his points rise. I'm looking forward to seeing how he & Slafkovsky grow together.

Also, Fantilli is also currently a winger, and is likely to stay there.
Sure for Reinhart. Barzal has been a C every season up until this one and parts of last one. Zibanejad, Thomas and Hischier are all better than Suzuki. Hischier and Thomas are both 2017 draftees as well. Thomas has already been ppg+ and is currently ppg+ on a bad team.

@Boss Man Hughes Stutzle hit 90 points in his 3rd season and is PPG this year. Thomas has been PPG+ already and is currently PPG+ on a bad team. Cut the homerism.

Hischier is Suzuki's best comp and even then Hischier edges Suzuki slightly offensively while they both provide excellent defensive play.

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Stamkos hasn't played C full time in years and he's also currently not better than Suzuki lol. Reinhart has literally never played C full time in the NHL. Tavares, Lindholm, Malkin and Zibanejad? What is this 2019 ? Barzal hasn't played C in 2 years. Can't take you seriously when you don't even know who plays center.
Don't care if you can't take me seriously. I'm using NHL.com and filtering for C's, so take up your qualms with whoever lists positions and NHL.com. Malkin put up 83 points last year. Zibanejad put up 91 points last year and has been over PPG several times. Tavares PPG last year. Lindholm is debatable. I genuinely can't take anything you say with value if you can't put the homerism aside.
 
Sure for Reinhart. Barzal has been a C every season up until this one. Zibanejad, Thomas and Hischier are all better than Suzuki. Hischier and Thomas are both 2017 draftees as well. Thomas has already been ppg+ and is currently ppg+ on a bad team.

@Boss Man Hughes Stutzle hit 90 points in his 3rd season and is PPG this year. Thomas has been PPG+ already and is currently PPG+ on a bad team. Cut the homerism.

Hischier is Suzuki's best comp and even then Hischier edges Suzuki slightly offensively while they both provide excellent defensive play.

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Barzal is definitely not better than Suzuki. It doesn't matter where he plays. He's had one good year his rookie year, and that's about it. Zibanejad is feeding off Panarin. Suzuki is a way better player.

It's not all about points. Suzuki's defensive impact is one of the best in the league this year. He's behind Barkov and that's it, and he's doing that while playing on a terrible team.

You're really under valuing Suzuki by quite a bit.
 
Barzal is definitely not better than Suzuki. It doesn't matter where he plays. He's had one good year his rookie year, and that's about it. Zibanejad is feeding off Panarin. Suzuki is a way better player.

It's not all about points. Suzuki's defensive impact is one of the best in the league this year. He's behind Barkov and that's it, and he's doing that while playing on a terrible team.

You're really under valuing Suzuki by quite a bit.
With all due respect, that's underselling Zibanejad by quite a bit who is a top 10C in the league. Is Suzuki better than Draisaitl because he gets to play with McDavid?
 
Barzal is definitely not better than Suzuki. It doesn't matter where he plays. He's had one good year his rookie year, and that's about it. Zibanejad is feeding off Panarin. Suzuki is a way better player.

It's not all about points. Suzuki's defensive impact is one of the best in the league this year. He's behind Barkov and that's it, and he's doing that while playing on a terrible team.

You're really under valuing Suzuki by quite a bit.
I don’t think he is. Suzuki is a bottom tier number one. I think his production greatly depends on his teammates and I don’t think that’s the case for a real number one.

The other day some poster was talking about how many more points he’d have if he were on Tampa or Dallas. The reality is that both of those clubs have two centers each who are as good or better than Suzuki and he’d likely be a 2nd liner on those teams or be moved to the wing.

Yes, he’s defensively responsible. Solid player. But he doesn’t drive offense the way others do. In Montreal he gets a ton of minutes, top PP and the best linemates. That wouldn’t be the case if we had a real number one.
 
Don't care if you can't take me seriously. I'm using NHL.com and filtering for C's, so take up your qualms with whoever lists positions and NHL.com. Malkin put up 83 points last year. Zibanejad put up 91 points last year and has been over PPG several times. Tavares PPG last year. Lindholm is debatable. I genuinely can't take anything you say with value if you can't put the homerism aside.
cool so you admit to just stat watching gotcha
 
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