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Blue Jays Discussion: The off-season is on. (Robbie Ray wins AL Cy Young)
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Jays were in deep discussions with Eduardo Rodriguez but he ended up going to the Tigers. Verlander and E-Rod share the same agent, Jays may have had discussions already with Verlander.
Verlander is likely in the same boat as Thor, hoping to sign before the QO deadline.
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Far to many other good to great pitchers to even consider Stroman. I like chaos on teams I don't cheer for.
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It’s odd that we haven’t been connected to the A’s at all with their desire to sell
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F*ck cancer - RIP Fugu and Buffaloed
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I'd want Verlander too, but the fact he wants 2-3 years at $20+ per year is a hut risky. That being said, if you lose a pick to sign someone, I guess I'd rather it not be a 1 year deal, ha.
Wouldn't shock me if he wanted to sign before the QO deadline.
Wouldn't shock me if he wanted to sign before the QO deadline.
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lets be real, the ONLY reason semien wanted to play 2nd base is because all the very high value infield FAs this year were SS's. semien will not have the same demands as to where he plays upon signing this new deal. hes gonna make his money and play anywhere his team asks as long as he gets that long term deal hes looking for.
What José Berríos' extension means for the Blue Jays, their rotation and their offseason plans - The Athletic
Along with improving their pitching and lineup construction this offseason, the Blue Jays had been intent on sewing up deals for some of their own players in an effort to both continue to foster a long-term winning atmosphere and also create some payroll certainty for the future. With Berríos done, the focus will now shift to guys like Guerrero, Teoscar Hernández and Bo Bichette, though there is more time to figure out those deals.
But what does signing Berríos mean for more moves this offseason? At an average annual salary of $20 million from 2023 onward, the deal shouldn’t prohibit the Blue Jays from making other major signings or trades this offseason. With Berríos’ $11 million on the books for next season, the team’s projected payroll is about $115 million, per Roster Resource. In 2023, they’ll have about $80 million in guaranteed contracts, and only George Springer and Berríos are on guaranteed deals from 2024 and beyond.
So this shouldn’t interfere with the club’s ability to sign Ray, Marcus Semien or any other free agent they’re targeting. In fact, extending Berríos further underlines the team’s commitment to winning, which can be persuasive to prospective free agents.
Ideally, the Blue Jays acquire two starters, whether it’s bringing back Ray and Steven Matz or pitchers who are comparable to them. But by guaranteeing Berríos is sticking around beyond next season, it gives the Blue Jays some flexibility to explore at least one shorter-term deal for a starter this winter or alternatively trade for a one-year rental. Of the starters on their roster, only Ross Stripling will be heading to free agency after next season, as it stands now.
When the Blue Jays traded for Berríos at the trade deadline in July, it signalled the front office was intent on building a winning ball club. The fact that Berríos has signed on for seven more years, doing so before testing free agency, suggests he believes in their long-term vision, too. There is a lot more work needed to improve the roster this winter, but this deal is a good start — and perhaps could be a positive omen of what’s to come.
Along with improving their pitching and lineup construction this offseason, the Blue Jays had been intent on sewing up deals for some of their own players in an effort to both continue to foster a long-term winning atmosphere and also create some payroll certainty for the future. With Berríos done, the focus will now shift to guys like Guerrero, Teoscar Hernández and Bo Bichette, though there is more time to figure out those deals.
But what does signing Berríos mean for more moves this offseason? At an average annual salary of $20 million from 2023 onward, the deal shouldn’t prohibit the Blue Jays from making other major signings or trades this offseason. With Berríos’ $11 million on the books for next season, the team’s projected payroll is about $115 million, per Roster Resource. In 2023, they’ll have about $80 million in guaranteed contracts, and only George Springer and Berríos are on guaranteed deals from 2024 and beyond.
So this shouldn’t interfere with the club’s ability to sign Ray, Marcus Semien or any other free agent they’re targeting. In fact, extending Berríos further underlines the team’s commitment to winning, which can be persuasive to prospective free agents.
Ideally, the Blue Jays acquire two starters, whether it’s bringing back Ray and Steven Matz or pitchers who are comparable to them. But by guaranteeing Berríos is sticking around beyond next season, it gives the Blue Jays some flexibility to explore at least one shorter-term deal for a starter this winter or alternatively trade for a one-year rental. Of the starters on their roster, only Ross Stripling will be heading to free agency after next season, as it stands now.
When the Blue Jays traded for Berríos at the trade deadline in July, it signalled the front office was intent on building a winning ball club. The fact that Berríos has signed on for seven more years, doing so before testing free agency, suggests he believes in their long-term vision, too. There is a lot more work needed to improve the roster this winter, but this deal is a good start — and perhaps could be a positive omen of what’s to come.
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kb
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Absolutely brilliant contract......love it. AAV of 18 and change million (even though it doesn't work that way). But it's a tidy piece of business.
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Pretty great until he got injured. Was electric seeing him come out of the pen that first year.
kb
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I'm not opposed to making one big-money bullpen addition (Iglesias would be awesome) but I think my preference would be to spend the big money on impact guys elsewhere and trade for pen help.
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I thought he was a gimme signing.....but I was wrong. That one year was lights out. It was the first and biggest realization that you never throw both dollars and term at a reliever. One or the other.....
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Their SP was weak to begin the year. Remember when they had to start Thornton, Kay and Zeuch every 4-5 days before Alek was called up, Berrios was traded for and Matz got his stuff together
I know you're probably kidding but if the Jays cant come through with at least one pitcher better than Stro then FO would be a disappointment. Stro benefitted from playing in a pitcher friendly park imo
If there’s a chance to get Pablo Lopez, we should be all over it.
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