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Blue Jays Discussion: The off-season is on. (Robbie Ray wins AL Cy Young)

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Has Verlander hit the market before, or would there be a comp pick price attached to him? If the latter, that might be tough to swallow given how much of a gamble he'd be.
 


The new training facility has helped land Springer and Berrios. This could go a long way to getting Verlander too.
 
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Kurtz said:
Has Verlander hit the market before, or would there be a comp pick price attached to him? If the latter, that might be tough to swallow given how much of a gamble he'd be.
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He did receive a QO so any non Astros team that signs him will lose a pick.
 
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It feels pretty obvious that the Jays are going hard after a big arm on a 1 year deal only. They have absolutely nothing coming off the books next offseason, so lets say they go to 170 million with the majority being multi-year deals, then you're looking at Vladdy arb 2 raise, Bo's arb 1 raise, Teo's arb raise, Berrios' extra 9 million(assuming it's 11, 20, 20 etc breakdown), and some other minor arb raises adding onto the 170 million from this year with nothing coming off. That's either going to force another payroll increase(which is fine if that's Rogers plan) or artificially compress this seasons payroll knowing there's a increase coming. That's mitigated with 1 year deals obviously.

I still think they've got the long term payroll room for 1 more long term deal, but I heavily suspect they're looking at getting a great arm on a 1 year deal as well to know where that 2023 increase for 4 or 5 guys is coming from.
 
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habamillions said:
I agree. 1 yr deal tops. Hearing these multi year deals is scaring me. We all know that the jays need to overpay but overpay with money not term
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With a qualifying offer attached to him I would not want to lose the pick for one year of anyone
 
AllDay28 said:
Am I weird for not wanting Verlander? He’s old and just had Tommy John. I get the name allure but meh.

I’ll hang up and listen.
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He seems like the type of guy you would want the young kids around. Someone to look up to and train with. A Halladay type. At reasonable price I think it would be a good pick up. But I could be completely wrong about him.
 
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phillipmike said:
Well deserved. Happy for him

Also funny that no matter what Cole does, he can’t win a Cy Young.

Joins a long list of former Tigers to win a Cy Young. Scherzer, Verlander, Porcello and now Ray.
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you mean former jays halladay, clemons hentgen and steib(dude was jobbed in 82, 83, and maybe 84) haha
 
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