Confirmed with Link: The new coach of the Philadelphia Flyers is John Tortorella

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EdmFlyersfan

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This was all inevitable, of course. Torts was always going to be the next one. It's all pretty funny as long as you keep your perspective.

Hockey is dead - long live comedy.

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The Flyers pay no heed to the complexities of sports -- what they do is assemble a checklist of buzz words. Grit, hard to play against, defense, toughness, accountability, experience.......and out pops decisions like this. It's what the woefully inept do, not just in sports, to color by numbers assemble an organization. Because they lack the creativity and nuance to chart their own path.

The 4th worst team in the league, paying a coach $5 million a year until 2024, watched that magic algorithm spit out a wrong answer and decided to give it another go. Let alone fixing problems, they don't even know what's wrong or think what's wrong is wrong. I absolutely believe guys like Holmgren and Lombardi championed someone like Tortorella, and I absolutely believe Fletcher, the ultimate decision maker, agreed wholeheartedly. Had he vociferously advocated for someone else, someone else would've been chosen. He's part of this confederacy of dunces; he's not beholden to it. Imagine, most GMs (especially ones with little success) get 2 coaching hires, and this dunce has hitched his wagon to Vigneault and Tortorella. Gobsmacking.
 

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The Flyers pay no heed to the complexities of sports -- what they do is assemble a checklist of buzz words. Grit, hard to play against, defense, toughness, accountability, experience.......and out pops decisions like this.

The 4th worst team in the league, paying a coach $5 million a year until 2024, watched that magic algorithm spit out a wrong answer and decided to give it another go. Let alone fixing problems, they don't even know what's wrong or think what's wrong is wrong. I absolutely believe guys like Holmgren and Lombardi championed someone like Tortorella, and I absolutely believe Fletcher, the ultimate decision maker, agreed wholeheartedly. Imagine, most GMs (especially ones with zero success) get 2 coaches, and this dunce hitched his wagon to Vigneault and Tortorella.

Something something cup in 04. I bet Clarke is creaming his depends right now
 

LegionOfDoom91

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The Flyers pay no heed to the complexities of sports -- what they do is assemble a checklist of buzz words. Grit, hard to play against, defense, toughness, accountability, experience.......and out pops decisions like this. It's what the woefully inept do, not just in sports, to color by numbers assemble an organization. Because they lack the creativity and nuance to chart their own path.

The 4th worst team in the league, paying a coach $5 million a year until 2024, watched that magic algorithm spit out a wrong answer and decided to give it another go. Let alone fixing problems, they don't even know what's wrong or think what's wrong is wrong. I absolutely believe guys like Holmgren and Lombardi championed someone like Tortorella, and I absolutely believe Fletcher, the ultimate decision maker, agreed wholeheartedly. Had he vociferously advocated for someone else, someone else would've been chosen. He's part of this confederacy of dunces; he's not beholden to it. Imagine, most GMs (especially ones with little success) get 2 coaching hires, and this dunce has hitched his wagon to Vigneault and Tortorella. Gobsmacking.

David Quinn is looking like the next head coach after Tortorella.
 

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The Flyers pay no heed to the complexities of sports -- what they do is assemble a checklist of buzz words. Grit, hard to play against, defense, toughness, accountability, experience.......and out pops decisions like this.

The 4th worst team in the league, paying a coach $5 million a year until 2024, watched that magic algorithm spit out a wrong answer and decided to give it another go. Let alone fixing problems, they don't even know what's wrong or think what's wrong is wrong. I absolutely believe guys like Holmgren and Lombardi championed someone like Tortorella, and I absolutely believe Fletcher, the ultimate decision maker, agreed wholeheartedly. Imagine, most GMs (especially ones with zero success) get 2 coaches, and this dunce hitched his wagon to Vigneault and Tortorella.

Well all this may be objectively accurate… all too much in fact, but I’m choosing to look forward to Torts and Simple Sam interactions. Imagine the level of apathy, dismissiveness, towards anything Carchidi will throw out there.

At a very base level, it is all that will give me even a paltry level of joy next year, since the knowledge of Cuck and Torts working on undermining any credibility this organization has certainly cemented my decision not to watch any games.
 

Danko

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If we are going to suck, it's going to be lovely to see Torts with the bloggers that do the flyers press/interviews now.



Some of the questions and how they ask them (Sommermannn,Baskow,Ariel) oh man...

Just wish Panotch would come out of retirement for a season.
 

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The beat writers get off to that shit too, and don't for a second think otherwise.

Call me crazy, but I want to watch a modern hockey system with upside. Into which the young talent of the team can grow. You can suck and still be on the right path. Beats sucking, being on the wrong path to more sucking, but getting a funny clip on Twitter every 2 weeks.
 

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I think there's some likelihood of Torts being better than Vigneault. That's where we're at with lowering the bar. Someone get James Cameron.

the chances that cuck or anyone else survive the aftermath are minimal

The Flyers old guard has out cockroached cockroaches in surviving vaporization. There's no accountability higher up in the organization. Just promotions, as long as you want to be part of the coterie. Who picks the next manager, even if Fletcher's ties to the organization are, however unlikely, severed?
 

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THE LAST COACH TO BEAT THE LIGHTNING

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The sad part is that you know that played some factor in it.

It’s like when they went out & acquired those 2023 mid round picks & were claiming it’s a generational draft. Like you don’t actually know that. You’re just basing it off of Bedard, Michov, & Fantilli at the top which those picks have no relevance on. If you actually understood probabilities & understood data you’d realize the probabilities don’t greatly vary from year to year as you move on in the draft. The success rates of second/third round picks in 2022 & 2024 very likely aren’t going to be that much different than 2023 even if 2023 ends up the best.

That’s why I don’t give a shit when people like Meltzer & other people that defend this dog shit by mentioning they’re investing all this money into analytics. It’s investing for the sake of investing. There’s nothing to suggest they actually use it.

f*** we have people in high places within this organization that still don’t even understand a salary cap despite in being in place for almost two decades now & you expect me to think they actually use analytics?
 
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