The Negativity-**Only** Thread (A Place to go to vent) II

[1stLineCottonCandy]

Pekka out for another two weeks meaning we won't see him in action for at least another month. **** this season. Start the rimjobing for reinhart ****

 

[NoNecksCurse]

Pekka out for another two weeks meaning we won't see him in action for at least another month. **** this season. Start the rimjobing for reinhart ****

i took it as 2 more weeks till he does anything really considering conditioning... just call this season a loss and hopefully draft high.

 

[I Will Son]

Still waiting on some changes..

 

[jwhouk]

Dear Santa,

Can we get a new GM and head coach for Christmas?


Please?

 

[hockey diva]

No finish, brain farts all over the place, just a pathetic display of hockey. Again. And an ownership group that have their heads buried in the sand.

 

[Top 6 Spaling]

Something has to give, right?

 

[twig]

When the barn hits less than 10 k per game, they might, just
Might, start thinking about changes. ... if were lucky.

 

[AtlantaWhaler]

Frustrating when the only excuse..."Getting back to Preds hockey"...falls flat. Allowing 6 goals with the stout D and 4th liners we have? Unacceptable.

 

[hockey diva]

And they were easy goals. The Bs had all kinds of time and space on their ES goals.

The ownership loses money on the Preds, they make it up with concerts etc.

They should be embarrassed. If they ran their businesses like they are running the Preds they would be broke. There doesn't seem to be any accountability. They "trust" the hockey ops side. Well if this was my return I would be firing people yesterday. They should have been educating themselves on the game and how winning teams are built. It's a shame that the loyalty we have shown, especially the long time STHs, is treated like a given.

I'm wearing my Kings jersey Saturday.

 

[Roman Yoshi]

That's how I feel about the Preds

 

[token grinder]

Carter Hutton crippled this team 2 out of the last three games. In Tampa, let up 3 soft goals. 2 of which were right after we scored on the road and needed the next save. VS MON, I think it was more the skaters hung Maz out to dry, and that night, for almost 50 minutes, we were the superior team. Last night, goal one was on Hutton, getting back in his cage slowly and not getting set and that weak chara slap pass finds a stick and goes by him and goal two, anyone on my beer league team could bury the shot off hutton setting it up. Didn't matter who had fraser. Hutton has to do anything but make the play he did. ANYTHING. I want to know who took the too many men penalty. I would have Clune in next game, even if it meant he was on line one. Hell, at least the man cares enough to not take a lazy stupid penalty. Lazy, Stupid, momentum crushing, stupid. And Gaustad taking his 45077904 penalty 200 feet from his net for us. Maybe he should watch 200 feet from the ice as well.

I would call up Watson to take Gaustads spot and insert Clune in for whoever took the too many men on the ice until the WJC is over and he can go in.

 

[PFL615]

And they were easy goals. The Bs had all kinds of time and space on their ES goals.

The ownership loses money on the Preds, they make it up with concerts etc.

They should be embarrassed. If they ran their businesses like they are running the Preds they would be broke. There doesn't seem to be any accountability. They "trust" the hockey ops side. Well if this was my return I would be firing people yesterday. They should have been educating themselves on the game and how winning teams are built. It's a shame that the loyalty we have shown, especially the long time STHs, is treated like a given.

I'm wearing my Kings jersey Saturday.

That will show them! You going to swing your loyal legion shirt in the air with it on?

 

[hockey diva]

Nope

 

[jwhouk]

And, as if that wasn't bad enough, the "official" Predators message boards are down for the count.

Merry ####ing Christmas.

 

[BigFatCat999]

And, as if that wasn't bad enough, the "official" Predators message boards are down for the count.

Merry ####ing Christmas.

Expected as much.

 

[PredsV82]

And, as if that wasn't bad enough, the "official" Predators message boards are down for the count.

Merry ####ing Christmas.

Like, forever? Or just temporarily?

 

[GeauxPreds]

I kind of have to wonder if the lack of change we've seen lately is because Poile is focusing more on team USA than the preds right now.

 

[darth5]

If GMDP has let his day job as suffer because he has a role for USA hockey that is indefensible.

 

[Dave is a killer]

according to Dirk Hoag (Forechecker) the boards are a league run entity, so the way I take it, the NHL just destroyed all official message boards (herro facebook & twitter)

 

[PredsV82]

I kind of have to wonder if the lack of change we've seen lately is because Poile is focusing more on team USA than the preds right now.

I don't think that is it. I think the reason nothing has been done is because there really isn't one move that could substantially change our fortunes this year.

 

[glenngineer]

I'm going to do a little stat hunting here. Curious what teams that won the Cup the last 10 years had as far as offensive talent. Let's take a look at the top 90 forwards and see how many were on each Cup team according to PPG and the number after is how many forwards the Preds had in the top 90 that same season.

2013 - Chicago 4/1
2012 - Los Angeles 3/2
2011 - Boston 3/1
2010 - Chicago 4/1
2009 - Pittsburgh 2/3
2008 - Detroit 2/4
2007 - Anaheim 3 (That didn't include Getzlaf or Perry)/7 (including Forsberg)
2006 - Carolina 6/3
2004 - Tampa Bay 5/2
2003 - New Jersey 0/1

So 4 out of the 10 years we had more top 90 scorers than the team that won the Cup. The 2007 season was the one that was the amazing stat. 7 top 90 scorers? Pretty remarkable. Now granted, this doesn't take into account defensemen scoring as well but that 2007 team had the firepower to do damage and was eliminated in 5 games. The other years we had more top 90 scorers was only by 1 each year and one of those years we didn't make the playoffs. The years we had more than Pittsburgh and Detroit, well the 4 guys that were top 90 scorers were Crosby, Malkin, Datsyuk and Zetterberg. Enough said.

Now here's the one stat that really rung true through all of this, only one top 30 scorer judged by PPG in that 10 year sample. One. Even in the year we had 7 top 90 scorers, we didn't have one in the top 30. The one time we did have one in the top 30, Sullivan, he missed about 25 games. so would he have kept up his pace over a full season? Who knows but regardless if he did or didn't, that screams to me we have never had the game changers, elite players or even great forwards up front. I'd have to go back and check for sure but I think Erat hit the list the most of any Preds player in that time frame.

I could've gone nuts with this but it's been a long day and I'm in a lot of pain but just wanted to illustrate what this team has done with good offensive talent yet we've never had upper echelon players that you need to have to compete for the Cup. I'm sure we can find reasons why it never happened as to our playoff failures but to me, the lack of game breakers up front has been an achilles heal for many years and until we draft and/or develop, trade for or sign via free agency or some combo of all those, we will struggle mightily. I find it hard to believe in 15 years we haven't been able to develop one forward who could make the top 30 scorers at the forward position. That's really sad and for all the accolades Trotz gets for being the coach he is, this is one thing he has not been able to do. His resume with defensemen and goalies is stellar. Forwards, not so much. The thing is, you have 12 forwards on most nights, you'd think someone would take that leap. Well, it hasn't happened and won't happen as long as he's around. We can hope that it will happen but until it does, his resume is massively incomplete. Yes, we haven't had high picks but that shouldn't matter, guys develop from different draft positions every single year yet we haven't hit on any of them. This is on Poile too but to me this is mostly on Trotz and his insistence on his forwards playing a complete two way game.

You play to guys strengths and if a guy is better offensively than defensively, sure, we'll give up goals with him on the ice but hopefully his offensive stats are better and we score more when he's on the ice than give up. If we would let Wilson or Smith or Forsberg play their games, would we be worse off than we are now? Let them go out and have fun and play offensively. Let them do what they do. We might be surprise by the results. It's not like we're not giving up 5 or 6 goals on any given night. Couldn't hurt right?

Any way, we need top 3 talent up front. Until we do, we won't be very good.

 

[goeb]

Outside of the PP, the preds seem deficient everywhere. It is really frustrating. At least the defense has some upside in the future, can't say the same about the offense (as usual).

 

[hockey diva]

We are marginally talented team playing bad hockey.

 

[I Will Son]

We are marginally talented team playing bad hockey.

Marginally talented is a bit generous

 

[triggrman]

I don't think that is it. I think the reason nothing has been done is because there really isn't one move that could substantially change our fortunes this year.

Yet other teams make moves all the time. Poile is just waiting on the perfect deal.