OT: The Music Thread Part Six

[JAD]

Neil Young
After The Gold Rush

 

[ODAAT]

My favorite line:

"She really worked me over good,
She was a credit to her gender."

the man was a genius

 

[GordonHowe]

I meant Justin Townes Earle. Addiction took away a massive talent. Not a new story, but.....

It's very, very sad.

Ladyfan knows how Tom died.

Basically, Prince died for the same reason.

I will not ignite a political debate or discussion on this board.

I would only add, if you are interested in the topic, do a bit of digging on wiki, etc.

Search for the Sackler family.

Peace out,

 

[GordonHowe]

Steely Dan
Reelin' In The Years

Huge Dan fan,

Donald Fagen’s “Eminent Hipsters” Excerpts, One

Hilarious, mordant bits from late great sourpuss Donald Fagan, who, in partnership with the equally misanthropic Walter Becker, comprised “The Manson & Starkweather of rock n’ roll,” Steely Dan. On…

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Donald Fagen’s “Eminent Hipsters,” Excerpt Two

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTxrgXWToZA *Please read “Eminent Hipsters, Excerpt One“ first, below. “In 1964, long-playing vinyl records sounded great. It was the age of high fidelity, and even…

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[GordonHowe]

The Dude, The Eagles, Townes Van Zandt and how the rights to the Stones Dead Flowers were secured for the closing credits.

Inside the Dude's Stoner Soundtrack

What is Lebowski's musical legacy? A Bob Dylan rarity, some Creedence and an angry Glenn Frey

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Do you guys remember how big Kenny Rogers was in the early 80s?


Who wrote this song? (Answer via link below for the cheaters)

Islands in the Stream (song) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[GordonHowe]

Loved JTE. Sad story…..

I've actually never listened to his work.

If you have a favorite, or a song that is well regarded, please post.

 

[GordonHowe]

Jim Croce was super cool. And I mean super cool.

 

[Number8]

I've actually never listened to his work.

If you have a favorite, or a song that is well regarded, please post.

Bless you for asking @GordonHowe . Gave me an excuse to listen to a few of these a couple of times today!!





Bit of a sad connected history. Justin Townes Earl is the son of Steve Earl. Steve Earl (who had his own heroin/opiate issues) was very good friends with Townes Van Zandt (who has his own heroin/opiate issues). Steve Earl's ex wife did not like TVZ one bit because he tended to get Steve Earl into such trouble. TVZ died at the age of 52 -- technically of natural causes but clearly a result of years and years and years of heavy hard use of his body. Sadly Justin Townes Earl (who had his own heroin/opiate issues and was named after Van Zandt) died of an accidental overdose of ---- as if we have to guess these days...... cocaine laced with fentanyl.

 

[ODAAT]

It's very, very sad.

Ladyfan knows how Tom died.

Basically, Prince died for the same reason.

I will not ignite a political debate or discussion on this board.

I would only add, if you are interested in the topic, do a bit of digging on wiki, etc.

Search for the Sackler family.

Peace out,

and let`s not allow the doctors who hand out prescriptions like tic tacs get a free pass

I`m on a non narcotic med for some mental health issues, had I not mentioned to the doctor (I don`t have a family doctor) I can all but guarantee I would have been able to easily walk out of the office with meds that I could easily become addicted to. My drug of choice has always been "more"

one of the most infuriating but real documentaries on the issue

 

[GordonHowe]

Mrs. Number 8 and my wedding song......




It certainly wasn't a new song at the time we got married, but even so... a feeew years ago now.

I was punching way out of my weight class then.... and still am.

Thanks for posting. I'm at work but will listen to this upon returning home.

I've actually never heard Herb Alpert & The Tijuana Brass. I bet this is a good bit.

The only album I've ever heard of is

Herb Alpert Presents Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I must tell you, a Herb Alpert record is something few these days would own.

Like this guy,

 

[GordonHowe]

Bless you for asking @GordonHowe . Gave me an excuse to listen to a few of these a couple of times today!!





Bit of a sad connected history. Justin Townes Earl is the son of Steve Earl. Steve Earl (who had his own heroin/opiate issues) was very good friends with Townes Van Zandt (who has his own heroin/opiate issues). Steve Earl's ex wife did not like TVZ one bit because he tended to get Steve Earl into such trouble. TVZ died at the age of 52 -- technically of natural causes but clearly a result of years and years and years of heavy hard use of his body. Sadly Justin Townes Earl (who had his own heroin/opiate issues and was named after Van Zandt) died of an accidental overdose of ---- as if we have to guess these days...... cocaine laced with fentanyl.

Yes. The whole business is very sad.

Will absolutely check tonight or tomorrow on my day off.

Thanks for posting,

 

[jgatie]

Thanks for posting. I'm at work but will listen to this upon returning home.

I've actually never heard Herb Alpert & The Tijuana Brass. I bet this is a good bit.

The only album I've ever heard of is

Herb Alpert Presents Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I must tell you, a Herb Alpert record is something few these days would own.

Like this guy,

You might not have heard of Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass, but I guarantee you've heard something by them. Like this (off Whipped Cream and Other Delights, the #1 Album in 1965. Beating out the Beatles, the Stones, and Bob Dylan):

 

[GordonHowe]

You might not have heard of Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass, but I guarantee you've heard something by them. Like this (off Whipped Cream and Other Delights, the #1 Album in 1965. Beating out the Beatles, the Stones, and Bob Dylan):

Coolskie. Will check,

 

[GordonHowe]

and let`s not allow the doctors who hand out prescriptions like tic tacs get a free pass

I`m on a non narcotic med for some mental health issues, had I not mentioned to the doctor (I don`t have a family doctor) I can all but guarantee I would have been able to easily walk out of the office with meds that I could easily become addicted to. My drug of choice has always been "more"

one of the most infuriating but real documentaries on the issue

Agree.

Will check the documentary.

There are many elements to the opioid crisis.

One of them, as you are doubtless aware, involves injured young athletes who receive oxy, etc. prescriptions while they recover. The prescriptions run out.

Many of these athletes become (surprise) addicts.

When the prescriptions stop, they turn to the street. First, if they can afford to do so, they buy heroin. If they can't, they buy Fentanyl

Fentanyl - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

which is apparently forty to fifty times more potent than heroin.

There is much more to say, but I will leave the matter here. I do not wish to earn a board infraction for introducing the subject.

 

[ODAAT]

Agree.

Will check the documentary.

There are many elements to the opioid crisis.

One of them, as you are doubtless aware, involves injured young athletes who receive oxy, etc. prescriptions while they recover. The prescriptions run out.

Many of these athletes become (surprise) addicts.

When the prescriptions stop, they turn to the street. First, if they can afford to do so, they buy heroin. If they can't, they buy Fentanyl

Fentanyl - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

which is apparently forty to fifty times more potent than heroin.

There is much more to say, but I will leave the matter here. I do not wish to earn a board infraction for introducing the subject.

well said, I am a regular attendee of AA/NA, can`t tell you how many addicts I talk/listen to when they share who said they were productive, clean members of society until they were treated for various injuries such as you mentioned, terrible shame and incredibly hard to stop using

I`ll be hitting the trail to a local high school Friday for a talk about substance use/abuse, been fortunate to have done this often in my time, if my message hits home to even one kid...it`s a win

 

[GordonHowe]

well said, I am a regular attendee of AA/NA, can`t tell you how many addicts I talk/listen to when they share who said they were productive, clean members of society until they were treated for various injuries such as you mentioned, terrible shame and incredibly hard to stop using

I`ll be hitting the trail to a local high school Friday for a talk about substance use/abuse, been fortunate to have done this often in my time, if my message hits home to even one kid...it`s a win

You're the Derek Sanderson of the board. Good for you and you should be proud of yourself.

 

[aguineapig]

well said, I am a regular attendee of AA/NA, can`t tell you how many addicts I talk/listen to when they share who said they were productive, clean members of society until they were treated for various injuries such as you mentioned, terrible shame and incredibly hard to stop using

I`ll be hitting the trail to a local high school Friday for a talk about substance use/abuse, been fortunate to have done this often in my time, if my message hits home to even one kid...it`s a win

“Your Own Back Yard” is Dion DiMucci’s autobiographical reflection about his addiction to alcohol and drugs, as he describes it “kicking junk.” His marriage with his wife, Susan, was on the rocks. In 1966 his first daughter, Tane DiMucci, was born. An addict, Dion was unable to be the kind of parent his daughter needed and his wife counted on. His heroin addiction was expensive. Even though he had become a successful teen idol by the age of 19, the ghosts of a troubled upbringing and spending a lot of time on the streets from the age of 14 had caught up with him. Dion had a religious experience in 1968 and was determined to get off drugs and alcohol. After he finally got off heroin in 1968, and left his drug habit behind, Dion began to volunteer at local hospitals counseling heroin addicts. He also became a better husband and a better father after going straight and freeing himself from his addictions. - Ray McGiniss Vancouver Pop Music

 

[Number8]

Thanks for posting. I'm at work but will listen to this upon returning home.

I've actually never heard Herb Alpert & The Tijuana Brass. I bet this is a good bit.

The only album I've ever heard of is

Herb Alpert Presents Sergio Mendes & Brasil '66 - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I must tell you, a Herb Alpert record is something few these days would own.

Like this guy,

I just several minutes laughing……

You emit a foul and unpleasant odor…..

Seinfeld could be launched today and still be a massive hit.

 

[Number8]

You might not have heard of Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass, but I guarantee you've heard something by them. Like this (off Whipped Cream and Other Delights, the #1 Album in 1965. Beating out the Beatles, the Stones, and Bob Dylan):

@jgatie reminding Mr. Number 8 of what it was like as a young adolescent to listen to Whipped Cream and think ”you know, my Dad has some cool cool music”. I really liked it.

And then………. I looked at the cover closely. Really closely. And I thought “no….check that….. I love this music”

That beautiful young lady wasn’t wearing a white dress….. she was covered in whipped cream!!!

 

[Number8]

well said, I am a regular attendee of AA/NA, can`t tell you how many addicts I talk/listen to when they share who said they were productive, clean members of society until they were treated for various injuries such as you mentioned, terrible shame and incredibly hard to stop using

I`ll be hitting the trail to a local high school Friday for a talk about substance use/abuse, been fortunate to have done this often in my time, if my message hits home to even one kid...it`s a win

Another whose drug of choice was “more”. Still is, but its been compartmentalized into a safe place that I still pay close attention to and have cared for carefully for 30+ years now.

Fell off a ladder a few years back— was getting off roof when ladder slipped out, i fell backwards and landed right on the metal ladder across my lower back.. Went to ER for scans and outside of real discomfort all was OK. Nasty dark purple bruise across lower back the size of a rugby ball, lot of pain, and little sleep. But again outside of that, all good. I was extremely lucky.

Two days later my doctors office called me to come in for a follow up check. I thought :”wow, what great follow up”. I walked in saw a physicians assistant who only asked to look at the bruise and without asking any questions immediately started writing prescriptions for a muscle relaxant AND Oxy.

I paused for a fraction of a second (maybe more — its never completely gone) and told him no, why it was a hard no, and why he should do better. I was angry. I didn’t call them for the appointment, they called me.

But for a lot of those same places you go to, I could have easily “justified” taking the scrips, filling them, and then getting more. It’s what i did, and if not on the ball will do again. Meaning I’d kiss goodbye what i have with my wife and kids. Kids have never seen me drink or drug, but despite loving me very much I’m not entirely sure Mrs. Number 8 would go down that road with me again. And I wouldn’t blame her If she decided not to. Some rough and heart rendering days early on in our lif together.

I got a new doctor a few days later.

Back to the topic at hand, it’s why we still dance to old Herb and “This guy’s in love with you” every now and then.

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

I’m still shocked when I talk to people (and there are plenty of them) who don’t enjoy the Dave Matthews Band.

This came on one of my XM presets on the way home from work the other day and I was doing the drums on the steering wheel in no time.

 

[08SeaBass08]

I’m still shocked when I talk to people (and there are plenty of them) who don’t enjoy the Dave Matthews Band.

This came on one of my XM presets on the way home from work the other day and I was doing the drums on the steering wheel in no time.

I can't stand his voice and I intensely dislike the songwriting. Super talented group of musicians, though.

 

[JAD]

Fleetwood Mac
Hypnotized

 

[CharasLazyWrister]

I can't stand his voice and I intensely dislike the songwriting. Super talented group of musicians, though.

I can understand your perspective to a degree despite being a fan. I’ve made the comment numerous times that you could swap out Dave with a lot of other lead singers/guitarists/songwriters and the music really wouldn’t suffer. Maybe it’d be even better. A lot of his lyrics are pretty nonsensical and so are the random noises he has a penchant for making while at the mic.

That being said, for me, what he does can’t nearly undermine the awesomeness of the sum of all the parts. Carter Beauford is on par with some of the greatest drummers ever, in my opinion.

 

[Raleighfern]