OT: The Music Thread Part Six

[BNHL]

Watched Get Back

Three takeaways

1. Incredible watching a song just grow from nothing to an all time classic

2. They were so unassuming- the whole Billy Preston dynamic was fantastic

3. Yoko Ono breaking up the Bestles is myth - 0.0…..that belongs to the egocentric asshat Allen Klein

Bonus

4. The clothes were amazing - and I can’t believe how much they smoked

5. Ringo I can see why every one loved - I liked it when he was messing with piano with George and the did Octopus Garden - a song I loved as a kid (and still do)

6. Linda Eastman was very attractive and their daughter appearance was entertaining- watching her with Ringo just enhanced what I thought of him

7. Klein doesn’t come in and Preston joins Beatles they would have created some of the greatest music

My takeaways were Paul was definitely the boss! WTF was Yoko doing there every day? George was touchy about his level of skill to play Paul's compositions. John was pretty damn quiet during the first day or 2. Strange. Ringo has a reputation of being an a-hole in public,so it was curious to see him just sitting there with his mouth shut,like he was a student. I would like to see the unedited verson.

 

[DKH]

My takeaways were Paul was definitely the boss! WTF was Yoko doing there every day? George was touchy about his level of skill to play Paul's compositions. John was pretty damn quiet during the first day or 2. Strange. Ringo has a reputation of being an a-hole in public,so it was curious to see him just sitting there with his mouth shut,like he was a student. I would like to see the unedited verson.

I was 12 when they broke up and George Harrison was my guy. Shortly after he came out with a double album and I went to Ann & Hope music section and they had this huge poster on the wall of him like you see like Bruins & Celtics players on the polls downstairs at TD Garden

That album was an eye opener and at the time living it , ir was like current Bruins- we knew he was good but not this good and was he being held back

 

[Blowfish]

My takeaways were Paul was definitely the boss! WTF was Yoko doing there every day? George was touchy about his level of skill to play Paul's compositions. John was pretty damn quiet during the first day or 2. Strange. Ringo has a reputation of being an a-hole in public,so it was curious to see him just sitting there with his mouth shut,like he was a student. I would like to see the unedited verson.

All so talented...no debating Beatles best rock band of all time. All went on to create incredible music. One of my favourite Wing albums (under-rated). So good.

 

[Ladyfan]

Didn't know that.

Last time we went to see Jackson she was on stage to do a couple of songs. Jackson introduced her and said she was his goddaughter.

"Browne connected the dots in his goddaughter’s life by inviting Zevon on stage to sing a song from her debut album released and recorded in Vermont this year. A couple of hours later Browne and Potter’s band performed a song by her famous father, late rocker Warren Zevon."

"

 

[Ladyfan]

Didn't know that.

When Warren made his last video and song (Keep Me in Your Heart for Awhile) he knew his time on earth was fading he had some of his friends there. He and Jackson were great friends

 

[Ladyfan]

A nice Sunday morning for a couple of tunes

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

When Warren made his last video and song (Keep Me in Your Heart for Awhile) he knew his time on earth was fading he had some of his friends there. He and Jackson were great friends

Beautiful.

I thought it was Dylan singing at first.

I'd first heard Zevon on the radio, and it was only the goofy stuffs. A co-worker played the album (Excitable Boy) for me and it was Holy Crap this guy is brilliant!

 

[jgatie]

My takeaways were Paul was definitely the boss! WTF was Yoko doing there every day? George was touchy about his level of skill to play Paul's compositions. John was pretty damn quiet during the first day or 2. Strange. Ringo has a reputation of being an a-hole in public,so it was curious to see him just sitting there with his mouth shut,like he was a student. I would like to see the unedited verson.

John was strung out in the deepest depths of heroin addiction. That's why he was so quiet.

 

[jgatie]

When Warren made his last video and song (Keep Me in Your Heart for Awhile) he knew his time on earth was fading he had some of his friends there. He and Jackson were great friends

My buddies and I went to the Orpheum to see 'X' open up for Warren Zevon back in the 80's. We had no intention of staying for the headliner, but we said "Let's just stay for a couple songs". Warren blew the place away. I became a lifelong fan that night.

 

[BNHL]

I was 12 when they broke up and George Harrison was my guy. Shortly after he came out with a double album and I went to Ann & Hope music section and they had this huge poster on the wall of him like you see like Bruins & Celtics players on the polls downstairs at TD Garden

That album was an eye opener and at the time living it , ir was like current Bruins- we knew he was good but not this good and was he being held back

This just came up on my FB feed,can't tell me we're not being spied on;
In 1973, Eric Clapton showed up at the George Harrison’s home one night drunk. Then, suddenly, George and Clapton’s guitar battle commenced.
"George handed him a guitar and an amp – as an 18th-century gentleman might have handed his rival a sword – and for two hours, without a word, they dueled," Boyd said.
"At the end, nothing was said but the general feeling was that Eric had won. He hadn’t allowed himself to get riled or go in for instrumental gymnastics as George had. Even when he was drunk, his guitar-playing was unbeatable."
In a new interview with the Daily Mail, Pattie Boyd touched on George and Clapton’s guitar battle. She revealed that Harry Potter actor John Hurt instigated the whole thing, but whether it was true, only the guitarists would know.
"This is all because of John Hurt," she laughed. "He happened to be hanging out with us when Eric turned up and George said: ‘I’ve got this other guitar, do you want to play?’
"So then the two of them played but John being an actor came up with this totally theatrical translation that they were playing for my love. Whether it’s true or not, only George and Eric would know — and I never asked them."

 

[GordonHowe]

I think it's as much the influence of Klein as the loss of Brian Epstein. They were clearly a completely rudderless ship without him. The sheer amount of noodling done during paid recording time is something he would never have tolerated, as one example. The total lack of decision-making on what to do for the movie is another. He never was as tight with the books as Klein, but he focused their creativity much more effectively. He also wasn't hated by Paul McCartney, as Klein was. If he lived, maybe they get his artistic guidance married with Klein's financial acuity? Maybe Paul doesn't want his soon-to-be in laws to manage the money?

But it was DEFINITELY NOT Yoko, and they clearly had little to no animosity towards each other, which the original film essentially falsely depicted.

With respect to a fan who seems to know his stuff, Brian offered little in the way of artisitic guidance, and though perhaps the Beatles might listen if Epstein opined they could be a bit more focused & efficient in the studio, that's about as far as it goes.

Neither John nor Paul cared a fig for Brian's musical suggestions. Phillip Norman, in his book Shout! The Beatles in Their Generation, reports that once, Brian noted a bit too much tremble here or bass there. Lennon, over the intercom which all could hear, responded, acidly, "You look after the percentages, Brian. We'll look after the music."

Epstein didn't drop into sessions much after that.

Nonetheless, Brian Epstein deserves full credit for believing in the Beatles from the beginning, spending plenty of his own $$ to aid the group's rise (like buying up copies of their first single, "Love Me Do," helping to push it to #17 on the charts), and shaping their image with distinctive Pierre Cardin "collarless" suits, Spanish ("Beatle") boots, and even nudging them away from those awful Woodbine cigarettes toward the more refined Chesterfield brand.

He loved the Beatles, lavishing them with attention, indulging many a whim, and working tirelessly on their behalf. The Beatles would not have achieved the astonishing success they did without him.

Klein?

I won't expand, as he might sue me from the grave.

Lennon with the final word,

 

[08SeaBass08]

With respect to a fan who seems to know his stuff, Brian offered little in the way of artisitic guidance, and though perhaps the Beatles might listen if Epstein opined they could be a bit more focused & efficient in the studio, that's about as far as it goes.

Neither John nor Paul cared a fig for Brian's musical suggestions. Phillip Norman, in his book Shout! The Beatles in Their Generation, reports that once, Brian noted a bit too much tremble here or bass there. Lennon, over the intercom which all could hear, responded, acidly, "You look after the percentages, Brian. We'll look after the music."

Epstein didn't drop into sessions much after that.

Nonetheless, Brian Epstein deserves full credit for believing in the Beatles from the beginning, spending plenty of his own $$ to aid the group's rise (like buying up copies of their first single, "Love Me Do," helping to push it to #17 on the charts), and shaping their image with distinctive Pierre Cardin "collarless" suits, Spanish ("Beatle") boots, and even nudging them away from those awful Woodbine cigarettes toward the more refined Chesterfield brand.

He loved the Beatles, lavishing them with attention, indulging many a whim, and working tirelessly on their behalf. The Beatles would not have achieved the astonishing success they did without him.

Klein?

I won't expand, as he might sue me from the grave.

Lennon with the final word,

Definitely did not mean to imply he was creatively part of the Beatles, only that he kept them far more focused on their craft and productivity than Klein ever dreamed of.

 

[GordonHowe]

All so talented...no debating Beatles best rock band of all time. All went on to create incredible music. One of my favourite Wing albums (under-rated). So good.

Thanks for posting. I remember this one well and bought it at the time. (1979)

The above are two of my favorites. It was McCartney's first album on Columbia after signing a mega deal. Sales were disappointing. There's some good stuff on that album.



Paulie gets cute (surprise),

Definitely did not mean to imply he was creatively part of the Beatles, only that he kept them far more focused on their craft and productivity than Klein ever dreamed of.

Do you have a favorite Beatle book? Mine is Nick Schaffner's Beatles Forever.

 

[GordonHowe]

Blondie were really innovative. People think Green Day and Blink-182 created pop "punk," but Clem Burke was a punk drummer in a pop band that had psychedelic garage influences and whose biggest hits were a disco song, a reggae cover and a movie theme written by the English bass player. And fronted by an absolutely stunningly gorgeous woman who could really sing, too.

As for the Ramones, I have a chipped tooth from a stage dive gone awry at the Student Union Ballroom at UMass in 1985, which is a badge of enormous honor.

Always a huge fan of Blondie & The Face. Producer Mike Chapman was perfect for them.

As you are doubtless aware, the Ramones, save Markie (seen here getting into it with my favorite jerk, John Lydon)



are all dead. I saw them at the late, great Channel in '89 or '90, I think.

And while we're swapping "Brush With Greatness" bits, I shook Lydon's hand when he brought PIL to the Paradise in '85,





Okay, I'll shut up now.

 

[08SeaBass08]

Always a huge fan of Blondie & The Face. Producer Mike Chapman was perfect for them.

As you are doubtless aware, the Ramones, save Markie (seen here getting into it with my favorite jerk, John Lydon)



are all dead. I saw them at the late, great Channel in '89 or '90, I think.

And while we're swapping "Brush With Greatness" bits, I shook Lydon's hand when he brought PIL to the Paradise in '85,





Okay, I'll shut up now.

Not a fair fight. I was in the business from 1986-98, so I’ve had lots of said brushes, Lydon included. And he’s a big an asshole as you would imagine/expect.

 

[GordonHowe]

Not a fair fight. I was in the business from 1986-98, so I’ve had lots of said brushes, Lydon included. And he’s a big an asshole as you would imagine/expect.

Spill. Do.

"The names and the faces have been changed to protect the infamous." So, you know, play a bit sly,

 

[GordonHowe]

Not a fair fight. I was in the business from 1986-98, so I’ve had lots of said brushes, Lydon included. And he’s a big an asshole as you would imagine/expect.

Did you ever come across local band Big Dipper? Craps was a great album.

Not that you will,

 

[08SeaBass08]

Did you ever come across local band Big Dipper? Craps was a great album.

Not that you will,

Oh sure, I "knew" those guys way back when. All Going Out Together was a fave. Volcano Suns and Dumptruck were also great bands Big Dipper folks were previously in. I was part of the crew that ran the UMass concert program in the late 80s, then I became a booking agent, show promoter and later, a tour manager.

Separately, also at UMass, I took German with J Mascis of Dinosaur, Jr. and the Buffalo Tom guys were friends of friends. Joey Santiago and Black Francis from the Pixies lived the same dorm when I was a freshman, though I didn't know them. Small, small world.

The UMass thing was really unique. We were an entirely student-run production company from booking the shows to setting out the deli tray in the dressing room. We did around 20 shows/year. In the summers, we all got hired out as local crew for all the shows that went to Sullivan Stadium and a bunch worked as stage hands around New England. One guy still tours with Bob Dylan, among other artists. Dylan and the Dead, Madonna, Bowie, U2, Monsters of Rock were all shows I was local crew for at Sullivan. Stage builds were my favorite, climbing the steel and watching it all come together. Great times, but I got out of the business before I wouldn't have been able to get out and I'm glad for that.

 

[GordonHowe]

Oh sure, I "knew" those guys way back when. All Going Out Together was a fave. Volcano Suns and Dumptruck were also great bands Big Dipper folks were previously in. I was part of the crew that ran the UMass concert program in the late 80s, then I became a booking agent, show promoter and later, a tour manager.

Separately, also at UMass, I took German with J Mascis of Dinosaur, Jr. and the Buffalo Tom guys were friends of friends. Joey Santiago and Black Francis from the Pixies lived the same dorm when I was a freshman, though I didn't know them. Small, small world.

The UMass thing was really unique. We were an entirely student-run production company from booking the shows to setting out the deli tray in the dressing room. We did around 20 shows/year. In the summers, we all got hired out as local crew for all the shows that went to Sullivan Stadium and a bunch worked as stage hands around New England. One guy still tours with Bob Dylan, among other artists. Dylan and the Dead, Madonna, Bowie, U2, Monsters of Rock were all shows I was local crew for at Sullivan. Stage builds were my favorite, climbing the steel and watching it all come together. Great times, but I got out of the business before I wouldn't have been able to get out and I'm glad for that.

Wow. Thank you.

You got out before breaking a rib or more?

And, forgive, did you meet David?

 

[Gordon Lightfoot]

Oh sure, I "knew" those guys way back when. All Going Out Together was a fave. Volcano Suns and Dumptruck were also great bands Big Dipper folks were previously in. I was part of the crew that ran the UMass concert program in the late 80s, then I became a booking agent, show promoter and later, a tour manager.

Separately, also at UMass, I took German with J Mascis of Dinosaur, Jr. and the Buffalo Tom guys were friends of friends. Joey Santiago and Black Francis from the Pixies lived the same dorm when I was a freshman, though I didn't know them. Small, small world.

The UMass thing was really unique. We were an entirely student-run production company from booking the shows to setting out the deli tray in the dressing room. We did around 20 shows/year. In the summers, we all got hired out as local crew for all the shows that went to Sullivan Stadium and a bunch worked as stage hands around New England. One guy still tours with Bob Dylan, among other artists. Dylan and the Dead, Madonna, Bowie, U2, Monsters of Rock were all shows I was local crew for at Sullivan. Stage builds were my favorite, climbing the steel and watching it all come together. Great times, but I got out of the business before I wouldn't have been able to get out and I'm glad for that.

I'm trying to picture J Mascis in any class, especially a language class. The guy is a total mumbler! You're Living All Over Me is like the perfect guitar album. And his voice suits the music perfectly.

And while we're swapping "Brush With Greatness" bits, I shook Lydon's hand when he brought PIL to the Paradise in '85,

Okay, I'll shut up now.

Lydon has a great voice. Once I heard 'Memories' I knew he was a fantastic singer. What control he has.

 

[Orr Fourever]

Group is back on the hi-way.

 

[EvilDead]

Yes...I like early Madonna. I'm unafraid to say that. It's got a good beat to it and is fun to listen to. I'm also terminally addicted to 80s pop. So...yeah.

 

[GordonHowe]

I'm trying to picture J Mascis in any class, especially a language class. The guy is a total mumbler! You're Living All Over Me is like the perfect guitar album. And his voice suits the music perfectly.



Lydon has a great voice. Once I heard 'Memories' I knew he was a fantastic singer. What control he has.

He certainly has attitude to spare. I'll have to listen to that again; I haven't heard that stuff since it came out!

BTW, Keith Levene just died.

 

[GordonHowe]

Group is back on the hi-way.

Hit "Watch On YouTube" to view,

 

[GordonHowe]

Yes...I like early Madonna. I'm unafraid to say that. It's got a good beat to it and is fun to listen to. I'm also terminally addicted to 80s pop. So...yeah.

I don't care for her as a person, but I liked a lot of her 80s songs. My girlfriend at the time had the first album -- I remember seeing it on sale at Strawberries (the one on the corner of ? and Boylston Street. 1983.) I actually bought True Blue and Like a Prayer. The latter is a great album.

Always liked "Get Into the Groove." (from Desperately Seeking Susan -- we saw *that* one in the theater. '85!).

"Borderline" was the song that got me hooked,



And, ah, I really liked "Open Your Heart," too. Not sure why,