OT: The Music Thread Part Six

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Wow. Thank you.

You got out before breaking a rib or more?

And, forgive, did you meet David?
I got out before I was going to spend the rest of my life on tour buses, which is the way it was headed.

I did meet David Bowie. He actually introduced himself "hello, I'm David," while we were passing each other in the hallway with no-one else within 40 feet of us. I was definitely NOT someone he would have had any reason to be nice to. He just was.
 

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I got out before I was going to spend the rest of my life on tour buses, which is the way it was headed.

I did meet David Bowie. He actually introduced himself "hello, I'm David," while we were passing each other in the hallway with no-one else within 40 feet of us. I was definitely NOT someone he would have had any reason to be nice to. He just was.
I'm glad you got out, if that was what was good for you. Truly.

I'm also very pleased for you, that you met david. I wish I had. He wasn't perfect, no one is. But at his best, a gentleman, a creative genius, and my hero.

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I don't care for her as a person, but I liked a lot of her 80s songs. My girlfriend at the time had the first album -- I remember seeing it on sale at Strawberries (the one on the corner of ? and Boylston Street. 1983. I actually bought True Blue and Like a Prayer. The latter is a great album.

Always liked "Get Into the Groove." (from Desperately Seeking Susan -- we saw *that* one in the theater. '85!).

"Borderline" was the song that got me hooked.

As a person, I 100% agree. In fact, Faith No More made a perfect song that seems to sum up Madonna the person pretty well.

 

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Mick was David's Jeff Beck. He brought a great deal to Bowie's music, and not simply his muscular, perfect for glam guitar slinging. He had an orchestral flair, too. He arranged the strings for this one, of my favorite "early" Bowie songs,

 
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I don't care for her as a person, but I liked a lot of her 80s songs. My girlfriend at the time had the first album -- I remember seeing it on sale at Strawberries (the one on the corner of ? and Boylston Street. 1983.) I actually bought True Blue and Like a Prayer. The latter is a great album.

Always liked "Get Into the Groove." (from Desperately Seeking Susan -- we saw *that* one in the theater. '85!).

"Borderline" was the song that got me hooked,



And, ah, I really liked "Open Your Heart," too. Not sure why,


I never liked her. Not into "pop" music. Her voice gets on my nerves.
 
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I never liked her. Not into "pop" music. Her voice gets on my nerves.

That's why they make chocolate and vanilla.

I can appreciate Bob Dylan as an artist. The guy is a stone cold genius.

Do I like him as a person? No. I think he's basically a jerk. We can all talk about that at some point, or not. I'm aware of his time with George, Tom, Geoff & Roy.

In the same vein, I don't like Madonna as an individual, at least from all I've gleaned over the years (same for many, most obviously her heir, Taylor Swift). Even so, I can dig some of her music, and I do.

So,



And



Because, at one time or another, we all end up on

 
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Okay, major early 80s corn, comin' your way,







(It ain't for everybody.)

I like Dylan's music and lyrics. I don't know him as a person . I know he paints (is an artist in several forms).

One of the best concerts I ever went to was Dylan with Tom Petty. It was the only time I saw Dylan (saw Tom many times)




 

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I like Dylan's music and lyrics. I don't know him as a person . I know he paints (is an artist in several forms).

One of the best concerts I ever went to was Dylan with Tom Petty. It was the only time I saw Dylan (saw Tom many times)


Well, I've never met the guy but I hear -- I hear -- he's a prick. Then again, he enjoys shrouding himself in mystery, which is silly in its own way.

In the event, as you know, Tom was prickly, too (as was George Harrison). That's one of the things I liked about him.

I can see the three of them together, with Geoff Lynn as the avid, adroit pupil, and Roy Orbison as they guy they *all* looked up to. And rightly so,





 
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Debbie Harry was my first celebrity crush. I only saw her once, at The Channel. I've seen the Ramones 13 times, including their last show in NYC. But the only thing I got was a few t-shirts and tinnitus in my left ear from standing in front of Johnny's Marshal stack.
You should have sued. Like that guy at the Neil Young concert.

Neil is so decourous, so unassuming. I don't understand it.

 
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John was strung out in the deepest depths of heroin addiction. That's why he was so quiet.
He was also in thrall to a very manipulative woman. Another story for another time. At the time -- 1980 -- I bought the whole "house husband" bit.
 

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He certainly has attitude to spare. I'll have to listen to that again; I haven't heard that stuff since it came out!

BTW, Keith Levene just died.
Levene was such a force on Metal Box. I don’t know a lot of PiL but man that album is something special.

I don't care for her as a person, but I liked a lot of her 80s songs. My girlfriend at the time had the first album -- I remember seeing it on sale at Strawberries (the one on the corner of ? and Boylston Street. 1983.) I actually bought True Blue and Like a Prayer. The latter is a great album.

Always liked "Get Into the Groove." (from Desperately Seeking Susan -- we saw *that* one in the theater. '85!).

"Borderline" was the song that got me hooked,



And, ah, I really liked "Open Your Heart," too. Not sure why,


We have some common taste. Borderline is my favorite Madonna song, and Get Into the Groove is way up there as well. I only know her hits but I enjoy most of them.
 
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Well, I've never met the guy but I hear -- I hear -- he's a prick. Then again, he enjoys shrouding himself in mystery, which is silly in its own way.

In the event, as you know, Tom was prickly, too (as was George Harrison). That's one of the things I liked about him.

I can see the three of them together, with Geoff Lynn as the avid, adroit pupil, and Roy Orbison as they guy they *all* looked up to. And rightly so,






Actually Tom seemed very friendly. He always seemed grateful to the fans.

Roy had that fabulous voice . Together they sounded great. Too bad only two still alive.
 
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Actually Tom seemed very friendly. He always seemed grateful to the fans.

Roy had that fabulous voice . Together they sounded great. Too bad only two still alive.

Oh, I'm sure Tom was friendly and grateful to his fans.

I meant, Tom was always an outsider; he wasn't your typical singer/songwriter or "rock star." He was down to earth, did not suffer music biz fools gladly, and had something of a chip on his shoulder, *possibly* because he was from the South. I seem to recall reading about either Damn the Torpedoes or his collaboration with Stevie Nicks, "Stop Draggin' My Heart Around," in Rolling Stone. The author noted that Petty had recently put his fist through a wall.

I meant prickly "in a good way."

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Below: One of the Heartbreakers lesser known tracks, and a personal favorite.

Think of the social media saturated, celebrity obsessed, mindless consumer society we negotiate today.

Do you know when this one came out?

1987. (Select CC for the lyrics, though you probably know them by heart!)



Sensing a theme?
 
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He was also in thrall to a very manipulative woman. Another story for another time. At the time -- 1980 -- I bought the whole "house husband" bit.
Yep. The whole Yoko broke up the Beatles narrative is too simplistic to explain a large event, but I do think she ruined John.

I was recently reading about the period when John and Yoko separated and John was with May Pang, and during that year and a half John had a great relationship with Julian for really the only time in his life, he was making music prolifically (some of his best solo work too), collaborating with the likes of Elton John and Nilsson, and even reconciled with Paul. Then in 1975 Yoko shows up again and he becomes a recluse again, cuts off his relationship with his first son, stops making music, etc. Like you say they tried to claim he was being a stay-at-home-dad for Sean, but he was definitely on some substances despite how much he denied it up to like 1979. At the time of his death he was rail thin and withering away, I'm certain he was still on heroin to some extent and that Yoko was feeding him it (she introduced him to it in the first place in the 60s, as is documented).

Whatever it is it's a really weird dynamic. Sometimes people are just uncontrollably attracted to each other despite how toxic they really are together, I guess.
 
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Yep. The whole Yoko broke up the Beatles narrative is too simplistic to explain a large event, but I do think she ruined John.

I was recently reading about the period when John and Yoko separated and John was with May Pang, and during that year and a half John had a great relationship with Julian for really the only time in his life, he was making music prolifically (some of his best solo work too), collaborating with the likes of Elton John and Nilsson, and even reconciled with Paul. Then in 1975 Yoko shows up again and he becomes a recluse again, cuts off his relationship with his first son, stops making music, etc. Like you say they tried to claim he was being a stay-at-home-dad for Sean, but he was definitely on some substances despite how much he denied it up to like 1979. At the time of his death he was rail thin and withering away, I'm certain he was still on heroin to some extent and that Yoko was feeding him it (she introduced him to it in the first place in the 60s, as is documented).

Whatever it is it's a really weird dynamic. Sometimes people are just uncontrollably attracted to each other despite how toxic they really are together, I guess.

I never heard he was using heroin at that late date.

I read May Pang's Loving John, and another one by a guy I forget. Someone who observed how Yoko determined. in coldly calculating fashion, to insinuate herself into Lennon's life. She succeeded. John didn't have let her in. But he did. Were they in love? I think so. Yoko had a great deal of trauma in her childhood, as, of course, John did.

Unfortunately, John Lennon -- as much as I love his music, as much as he was a hero to me when I was younger -- was a very, very screwed up guy. To read about his treatment of Julian on many occasions is heart breaking.
 
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