The Mikhail Grigorenko Thread Part II (assigned to Québec)

[Tachycineta]

If he sits- he might have another year on his ELC with us. He should consider that.

 

[26CornerBlitz]

Hoppe has a good writeup on the entire Grigorenko saga: Prospect Mikhail Grigorenko won’t report to junior, future with Sabres unclear

 

[Chainshot]

Friedman and Healy disagree completely. Of those two, who has shown to have the sources and who hasn't? I'll take Elliotte's word over Healy's every time.

 

[flashsabre]

Could this be a blessing in disguise for GM TM? A prospect he is not married to and might not be his type of player has set him up with an opportunity to make his first big decision/move to put his stamp on the franchise and show what he is all about in regards of the type of ship he is going to run in Buffalo.

 

[zbubble]

I blame Bucky and Sully.

 

[Beerz]

Friedman and Healy disagree completely. Of those two, who has shown to have the sources and who hasn't? I'll take Elliotte's word over Healy's every time.

What are their positions?

 

[Chainshot]

What are their positions?

Healy made a comment that Grigorenko is looking simply for a big KHL payday, Elliotte said that is not so.

 

[ZeroPT*]

What are their positions?

Friedman explained that GM TM doesn't have any untouchables and mentioned Myers,Girgensons and Ristolainen as players he would only accept overpayments for. Healy basically said every sabre is a bum.

 

[Chainshot]

Friedman explained that GM TM doesn't have any untouchables and mentioned Myers,Girgensons and Ristolainen as players he would only accept overpayments for. Healy basically said every sabre is a bum.

Specifically around the Grigo thing, that Grigo is out for money only.

 

[ZeroPT*]

Specifically around the Grigo thing, that Grigo is out for money only.

Yeah I totally missed what we were talking about point stands. Healy hates the sabres and just rips on them every time the name is mentioned

 

[KennyFnPowers*]

he should crawl under a rock up in Quebec, rack-up points for the rest of the season, and keep quiet. This will be hard to recover from even if he does the aforementioned.

FILATOV! I'd bet he'll be playing in the KHL within a year or two.

 

[sabresandcanucks]

I think there's a better than 50% chance he's played his last game for the Sabres. Murray doesn't strike me as the type of guy who believes the team has to negotiate with a 19 year old and his agent regarding the organization's plan for the player's development. If he does play in Buffalo again, I'd imagine it's akin to the Coyotes/Turris situation where the team wanted him to play again so that he could bolster his value, and I'd expect a trade soon thereafter.

I don't think we are at that point yet...but I do agree that if Grigs does not "recant" in the next 48 hours this situation begins to move into the "irreparable" sphere.

 

[Ralonzo]

Seriously. It's TWO months. If what he said in his fb post is true about growing up sooo poor then he'll survive.

Mikhlemore should learn how to pop some tags

 

[La Cosa Nostra]

Friedman explained that GM TM doesn't have any untouchables and mentioned Myers,Girgensons and Ristolainen as players he would only accept overpayments for. Healy basically said every sabre is a bum.

Healy sure would know what a bum looks like considering that is what he was,a garbage piece of **** scrub backup goalie.

 

[haseoke39]

Healy was commenting on a GM TM quote, said if GM TM thought his phone would be ringing off the hook for his guys, it wouldn't. I agree with that.

 

[Zip15]

Healy was commenting on a GM TM quote, said if GM TM thought his phone would be ringing off the hook for his guys, it wouldn't. I agree with that.

Even if you assume there's a soft goaltending market, he'll get plenty of calls on Moulson and Ott. Teams are always in need of goal-scoring (Moulson) and toughness/grit/intangiblezzz (Ott).

 

[haseoke39]

Nolan says team had no inkling this was coming: http://blogs.buffalonews.com/sabres...ing-that-grigorenko-would-fail-to-report.html

Sounds like Mikhael walked away from the meeting and pulled a fast one.

 

[vcv]

Nolan says team had no inkling this was coming: http://blogs.buffalonews.com/sabres...ing-that-grigorenko-would-fail-to-report.html

Sounds like Mikhael walked away from the meeting and pulled a fast one.

Sounds like he talked to his agent and was told what to do

 

[haseoke39]

Sounds like he talked to his agent and was told what to do

It's within the realm of imagination.

 

[Kublakhan]

he had his chance, I've always had the same position on this kid, Not good enough..But many of you gave this kid 16 times the rope he needed and like any good Russian Prima donna he did the proper thing with it..Hope he goes back to the Motherland and is never heard from again

 

[La Cosa Nostra]

Reading that Grigs agent is also Kovalchuk's, it definitely does raise some red flags for me.Were the Sabres forced to send down Grigs right away or else they would be unable to do so?Or did they have more time?For a team that is one of the worst offensively in NHL history, I don't know why they couldn't have given the kid 15 minutes playing with quality linemates (Moulson or Ennis),along with PP1 time.

 

[SackTastic]

Reading that Grigs agent is also Kovalchuk's, it definitely does raise some red flags for me.Were the Sabres forced to send down Grigs right away or else they would be unable to do so?Or did they have more time?For a team that is one of the worst offensively in NHL history, I don't know why they couldn't have given the kid 15 minutes playing with quality linemates (Moulson or Ennis),along with PP1 time.

Because this is the NHL. Nobody is given anything. They are supposed to earn it.

 

[krt88]

he had his chance, I've always had the same position on this kid, Not good enough..But many of you gave this kid 16 times the rope he needed and like any good Russian Prima donna he did the proper thing with it..Hope he goes back to the Motherland and is never heard from again

so you hope the Sabres wasted the 12th pick in the 2012 draft?

wow you are a great fan!

 

[26CornerBlitz]

he had his chance, I've always had the same position on this kid, Not good enough..But many of you gave this kid 16 times the rope he needed and like any good Russian Prima donna he did the proper thing with it..Hope he goes back to the Motherland and is never heard from again

Way to give up on a 19 year old. Congratulations for a well thought out and perfectly illogical expression of pure lunacy.

 

[Kublakhan]

Way to give up on a 19 year old. Congratulations for a well thought out and perfectly illogical expression of pure lunacy.

Give me a break..At 19 I was making life and death decisions, I was 100% responsible for everything I said and did.. Just how much rope you want to give this guy..Yes man..yes adult..

How many more coaches have to tell him,half ass play is not good enough and having a big mouth ice icing on the professional cake..

He can go back and play with boys and score 100 goals a season and think he is great, maybe those boys will tell him he is a great team player,with his agent that is..

If I was him I'd have my mouth shut and be hanging on Zemgus Girgensons every move..But then I was a success at what I did..