I think podkolzin has a higher ceiling than Holloway so it doesn't really matter.
The Loss of Broberg and Holloway Gripe Thread
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Bryanbryoil
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Too early to say but damn would it have ever been nice to have both guys here. Kane, Holloway and Podkolzin would be powerful left wing depth.
Can't have too many good toys. Maxim Berezkin will be our Panarin-lite next season.
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Good lord. I can't believe there's still people delusional enough to think Brett Kulak is better than Broberg. One game yesterday doesn't change that. It was always a Tyson Barrie to Evan Bouchard situation where the vastly superior young player was being forced out of his niche and "looked bad" because we needed to coddle the sheltered veteran with easy deployment situations. Not getting rid of Kulak to make room for Broberg after we acquired Ekholm will go down as an all time bad decision.
Holloway is doing more than Podkolzin without significant time with a top 5 player in the world and even if Podkolzin ends up a better player it doesn't matter. Both should be Oilers. Avidsson/Henrique/Skinner should be the ones gone instead (especially Skinner).
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Yes, Podkolzin has a similar age, pedegree, cost, and even style of play. If Holloway was here, chances are Podkolzin would not be.
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Podkolzin isn't close to the player Holloway is turning out to be. Sorry man. Not even close. We will be lucky if Podz scores 20 in a season one day. Holloway looked like a perennial 30 goal 70 point guy tonight.
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Bryanbryoil
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Kesselring and Holloway. Kesselring was just stupid, some of us liked his potential. Holloway was the player to match IMO as he wasn't too grossly overpaid.
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Holloway was set up in the slot and scored.
Podz was set up in the slot and missed the net.
I think the ceiling was built to low and you bumped your head
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Broberg because it was more obvious he'd be an impact dman down the line as seen by his 2022-23 campaign when paired with Bouchard. Kesselring would probably fit our needs better as a big mobile rhd but at least you can say there was no NHL sample size on him. We had two separate periods where broberg looked great. Both are symptomatic of the Oilers fatal obsession with overpaid supporting role veterans that also coated us McLeod and holloway because we needed to waste a 1st and a bunch of cap space on the joke of a 3c that is adam Henrique.
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Letting both go was really bad, but the team's big need was always going to RD. So, Kesselring
The issue is that Broberg was a more sure thing at the time of the decision so it's more alarming as a screw up. If you are a team who is committed to trading futures for a cup run, you will be losing a Kesselring. There's no realistic way to anticipate that. For all we know, Kesselring could have been struggling and Schaefer could have been red hot. The fact that some people always loved Kesselring doesn't mean much. There are fans who like any prospect. They are never a sure thing
I view the whole Broberg and Holloway issue not as a topic about the players. It's more about our management
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Our management loves to acquire other teams failed prospects, not play their own developed ones.
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Keep in mind Holloway is playing top 6 minutes in St. Louis. He wasn't getting that in EDM much. Sometimes he was with Draisaitl but mostly a bottom 6 guy. And he likely would have continued to be if he was still an Oiler. For his growth him being a Blue is a good fit honestly. JMO.
Holloway didn't look any better than Podz here, why don't we wait and see how Podkolzin fits as he gets more comfortable here.
Like Nichushkin for the Avs this could be a long term play for the Oilers, I see a player there for sure, outstanding strength and good hockey IQ, just needs to relax and get a better understanding of where his goals will come from.
I mean Yamamoto and Puljujarvi got like 2039484848 looks here and even had some productive periods before ultimately flaming out.
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Holoway started in the NHL one season later and has already scored more goals than Podkolzin. Pods will end up being a role player, primarily because the guy has difficulty in shooting mechanics and has big time yips. Pretty clear he won't be a consistent scorer or enough to stay in topsix in the league. Holloway is already a topsix player, he's veering to be a 50pt guy already at age 23. In prime who knows how good. Holloway is leading an NHL team in scoring. Think about that.
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Holloway is serving up notice that he should have been with McD or Drai. I think he'd work out pretty well with Drai and did when he got some minutes with him in playoffs. Holloway was the speed and jump that benefitted from playing with a great passer that finds guys for breaks and Holloway unlike anybody Drai has on his line now has hands.
Why would Holloway who has way more goals than anybody but McD or Drai NOT be a topsix player here? When healthy he should've been. How do people not spot his talent?
He did play with Draisaitl and didn't score much.
Maybe Leon has a bit of a problem because no one scores with him on his line it seems like.
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What magic ball is required? One player became nothng on his draft team, was considered a bust, and moved out on the cheap. Another was a offseason target signed with an offersheet because a team wanted him so much and were prepared to pay for it. This is NHL GM's and teams speaking. Holloway is coveted adn leading the team that coveted him in scoring. His being a stud in STL. Outscoring several production vets already and just turned 23. Pods is at best a third on a line, a guy that rarely cashes anything and that has Connor Brown scoring numbers the last few seasons. Pods at best now is a support player. You don't go 45 games scoreless as a forward without having some stone hands.
Last 3yrs Holloway is outscoring Pods 4:1. You think thats a mirage?
They have the same number of goals with the Oilers through the same number of games this year and last. Actually I think Podkolzin has more. Holloway didn't score his 3rd goal of the season until like mid Feb of last year.
Holloway was never a big scorer here and did get looks with Draisaitl and produced little. Maybe the problem is Draisaitl 5 on 5 doesn't work with anyone but McDavid other than in short spurts.
