HF Habs: 2025 NHL Draft: Part II

[Egresch]

I personnally, I don't. 'Cause i never value position ahead of BPA. But we are not NHL teams right? Nobody saw Reinbacher at 5. At best, McKenzie final list at him at 8.Would you have said the same thing in 2023? If I would have said that I didn't want Reinbacher at 5....that there was no way we'd do it as there wasn't top 10 hype at all? And yet....

Reino is a late birthdate player and he was playing in Europe. Those are literally the hardest players to scout in their draft season. He was not eligible for those U18 tournaments who are heavily scouted by NHL and it is extremely difficult to compare players who play totally different level of hockey e.g. Swiss men league, Allsvenskan (2nd mens league in SWE), MHL (RUS juniors), etc.

 

[Guy Larose]

Reinbacher wouldn't even go top 10 in a 2023 redraft tbh

You say tbh but you're not honest. He hasn't played a game in the NHL yet, so it's impossible to know until he plays.

 

[Michelangelo]

You say tbh but you're not honest. He hasn't played a game in the NHL yet, so it's impossible to know until he plays.

Impossible to know indeed, but still an doable exercise if you consider the information available to date

Is it really a hot take though? This 2023 redraft has Reinbacher at 15: https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/5708066/2024/10/15/nhl-redraft-2023-bedard-michkov-fantilli/

 

[ReHabs]

Reinbacher wouldn't even go top 10 in a 2023 redraft tbh

He was ranked as low as the 20s toward the Draft Day lists. That doesn't mean other circumstances didn't come up to change the draft order -- by all accounts most teams were enticed by his package + position + handedness.

If he's as smart and focussed as his prospect reputation, he should be a fine pick at 5OA (in a vacuum). Skipping on Michkov (high upside offense) and Leonard (skilled, powerful forward) to pick him is another story.

Reino is a late birthdate player and he was playing in Europe. Those are literally the hardest players to scout in their draft season. He was not eligible for those U18 tournaments who are heavily scouted by NHL and it is extremely difficult to compare players who play totally different level of hockey e.g. Swiss men league, Allsvenskan (2nd mens league in SWE), MHL (RUS juniors), etc.

The difficulty to scout doesn't mean only Hughes and Bobrov have the magic tools to get it right. If they're hard to get a read on, it means precisely that and nothing more. Hard to get a read on = hard to get it right.

Reino (good nickname, better than Orville) can be a welcome addition to the team by all accounts and help propel the Habs forward so we'll see how it shakes out but I'm not expecting him to have a better career than Michkov. At this point it seems unfair to the Habs and the player alike.

 

[Guy Larose]

Impossible to know indeed, but still an doable exercise if you consider the information available to date

Is it really a hot take though? This 2023 redraft has Reinbacher at 15: 2023 NHL re-draft: Connor Bedard, Adam Fantilli, Leo Carlsson lead the class

That's not how a redraft works. You need metrics for comparables. A lot of players from that draft class haven't even played a game in the NHL yet.

 

[Habs Halifax]

Reinbacher wouldn't even go top 10 in a 2023 redraft tbh

That has a lot to do with his injury and taking away development games. I was not high on the Reinbacher pick but he is that rare big RD body with very good skating. Those are sought after and we were not the only ones who wanted Reinbacher.

When I look at that 2023 list (today), I can see 5 or 6 guys that would go before Reinbacher and then it's very subjective. There is no way to prove any feeling on this today. It's way too early to act on any credible context.

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Hagens Through Legs Pass 11:17
Hagens Goal 12:52

In a blow out win I would say it wasn't his best game but not bad either.

I like Fowler just like any other Habs fan but he is on a stacked team. Difficult to evaluate him on his stats IMO. The other goalie has very good stats in 3 games as well.

 

[WeThreeKings]

Impossible to know indeed, but still an doable exercise if you consider the information available to date

Is it really a hot take though? This 2023 redraft has Reinbacher at 15: 2023 NHL re-draft: Connor Bedard, Adam Fantilli, Leo Carlsson lead the class

Gonna cite a list from the dude who put Hutson's compete and puck skills as average?

Pronman is an idiot, there's no one taking Danielson over Reinbacher. Reinbacher outpaced his production as a defenseman last year, in the AHL.