The Loss of Broberg and Holloway Gripe Thread

[McFlyingV]

Hope it’s not too serious for Broberg. It didn’t look gruesome but he was absolutely in a lot of pain.

I’ve caught a few Blues games out of curiosity this season, they’re a pretty good team. Part of me doesn’t like Brob or Holloway but I don’t hate them either, they’re decent young players trying to find their way. Hope he recovers nicely, these two get derailed by injury too much.

I will say that is another knock on both Holloway and Broberg. Both have been injured a lot through their development in Edmonton. Its definitely something that softens the blow of losing two promising young players.

As for the injury looked like a pretty classic MCL injury. Hopefully just a minor sprain, but given how little weight he put on it going off I wouldn't be surprised is he's out 6-8 weeks.

 

[McHelpus]

Does anyone have a clip of his injury?

 

[McFlyingV]

Does anyone have a clip of his injury?

https://x.com/i/web/status/1852870426310889507

 

[McDNicks17]

That probably doesn't make your knee feel very good.

 

[McFlyingV]

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That probably doesn't make your knee feel very good.

Imo. Best case a minor sprain maybe out 2-3 weeks. Worst case a partial or fully torn MCL and out anywhere from 4-12 weeks.

 

[Mr Positive]

Neither Broberg nor Nurse have much high end skill or dynamism in their offence. Difference between Nurse and Broberg though, Broberg makes the right decision nearly every time. He passes when he’s supposed to pass, he shoots when he’s supposed to shoot, he holds when he’s supposed to hold. With Nurse it’s a crapshoot what decision he makes. Them Broberg 2nd assists rack themselves up when your playing the game smart, same as it does for McDavid.

I'd say Broberg will be as good as Ekholm by the end of his contract. It's the hockey IQ that I always loved about him. As he ages he will tighten up his game and speed up the decision making. He was already showing that in the playoffs.

I'll just add that although I view this situation as a massive unforced error by our management, it's not the end of the world. Florida won the cup, and they let Weagar go, who is better than Broberg today, and they let better players than Holloway go too. Management can salvage their reputation by getting us that RD we need, and of course by winning the Cup. Situations like these unnecessary offer sheets should be putting more pressure on them to get this organization a big win

Imo. Best case a minor sprain maybe out 2-3 weeks. Worst case a partial or fully torn MCL and out anywhere from 4-12 weeks.

He's still very young though and it didn't look all that bad.

 

[McFlyingV]

I'd say Broberg will be as good as Ekholm by the end of his contract. It's the hockey IQ that I always loved about him. As he ages he will tighten up his game and speed up the decision making. He was already showing that in the playoffs.

I'll just add that although I view this situation as a massive unforced error by our management, it's not the end of the world. Florida won the cup, and they let Weagar go, who is better than Broberg today, and they let better players than Holloway go too. Management can salvage their reputation by getting us that RD we need, and of course by winning the Cup. Situations like these unnecessary offer sheets should be putting more pressure on them to get this organization a big win


He's still very young though and it didn't look all that bad.

He is, but he's been pretty injury prone up until this point. It didn't look bad because you can't see his knee when Marner is on top of his leg, but if you had a view from the other side I'm sure it would look a lot worse. You're not usually in that much pain initially and unable to weight bear if he didn't as least partially tear something.

Edit: The still picture posted above shows just how much stress his medial knee takes. That said, MCL tears heal well and usually don't have long-term impacts on performance. If meniscus is involved it can be a different story.

 

[McDNicks17]

He is, but he's been pretty injury prone up until this point. It didn't look bad because you can't see his knee when Marner is on top of his leg, but if you had a view from the other side I'm sure it would look a lot worse. You're not usually in that much pain initially and unable to weight bear if he didn't as least partially tear something.

Edit: The still picture posted above shows just how much stress his medial knee takes. That said, MCL tears heal well and usually don't have long-term impacts on performance. If meniscus is involved it can be a different story.

Here's another angle:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1852874197732930040

Looks like a lot of stress on the knee because his heel catches the ice.

 

[McFlyingV]

Here's another angle:

https://x.com/i/web/status/1852874197732930040

Looks like a lot of stress on the knee because his heel catches the ice.

Thanks. Ya that definitely looks like an MCL injury, and given his reaction I'd expect at least partially torn. I'm expecting 6 weeks minimum.

 

[sepHF]

That did not look good for Broberg.. gotta feel for the guy. Hope it isn’t as bad as it seems

 

[Lay Z Boy GM]

Blues seemed to respond pretty well, Leafs kinda surged at the end but too late.

 

[Oilslick941611]

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That probably doesn't make your knee feel very good.

At the blues wearing two different colours of blues on the jersey and pants?

 

[Mr Kot]

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That probably doesn't make your knee feel very good.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!

 

[Speed220DChalavan]

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That probably doesn't make your knee feel very good.

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[Davo Ikinzom]

Lmao Blues fans are gonna find out Broberg is Mr. Glass

 

[oobga]

Ugh, that's like a full repayment of ~10 weeks of good luck for BroBeast. Mini-Marner of all people. Hope not serious.

 

[McShogun99]

Think of all the cap we could have accrued with Broberg on LTIR.

 

[TopShelfGloveSide]

That sucks. He was really rolling.

 

[Behind Enemy Lines]

I'd say Broberg will be as good as Ekholm by the end of his contract. It's the hockey IQ that I always loved about him. As he ages he will tighten up his game and speed up the decision making. He was already showing that in the playoffs.

I'll just add that although I view this situation as a massive unforced error by our management, it's not the end of the world. Florida won the cup, and they let Weagar go, who is better than Broberg today, and they let better players than Holloway go too. Management can salvage their reputation by getting us that RD we need, and of course by winning the Cup. Situations like these unnecessary offer sheets should be putting more pressure on them to get this organization a big win


He's still very young though and it didn't look all that bad.

He's a different player than Ekholm. Ekholm is a heavy two-way defender who has the size and inclination to play with a greasy edge in his game along with skill. Broberg is more of a stick defender who uses his skating and reach to take away time and space. I don't think Broberg will have Ekholm's elite processor but that's more how highly I value the latter. Broberg though is emerging as a solid, all situational top four d-man with still alot of growth potential. Got lots of runway to see how and if his game gets anywhere near Ekholm's.

Unfortunately the situation isn't like Weager in Florida. That team leveraged their solid top 2/3 d-man into a critical trade to reshape their team core and identity. In so doing, it put the Panthers on trajectory to compete for Cups. The Oilers turned years of hard miles development and an emerging top four d-man into a second round pick. Terrible asset management.

 

[AM]

Its becoming very clear...the team traded Ceci and as a result they downgraded the defence.

Now they have to fix an even bigger problem (2nd pairing RHD) than they had last season.
Is that progress?

Yes

Exactly. We can go for the cup, but I'm worried about 2-5 years from now. Ekholm will age out before McDavid and Drai will. Jackson says he wants to prioritize youth but I'm not seeing it. We are putting a lot of hope on O'Reilly, Savoie, and some long shots. It's nice to sign some older vets like Arvidsson for a good cost, but you need a core that we put those guys around. It's very hard to get that with signing and trades

I’m worried about 50 years from now.

 

[AM]

I'd say Broberg will be as good as Ekholm by the end of his contract. It's the hockey IQ that I always loved about him. As he ages he will tighten up his game and speed up the decision making. He was already showing that in the playoffs.

I'll just add that although I view this situation as a massive unforced error by our management, it's not the end of the world. Florida won the cup, and they let Weagar go, who is better than Broberg today, and they let better players than Holloway go too. Management can salvage their reputation by getting us that RD we need, and of course by winning the Cup. Situations like these unnecessary offer sheets should be putting more pressure on them to get this organization a big win


He's still very young though and it didn't look all that bad.

Way too early.

 

[guymez]

Yes

How so?

 

[AM]

Way too early.

Because it’s easier to add a d when you don’t have to get rid of a d. All these discussions are way too early. 40 games would be early.

 

[KCC]

Blues seemed to respond pretty well, Leafs kinda surged at the end but too late.

Leafs are incapable of a full 60 minutes this season. Outside of the odd good game they’ve looked worse under berube than keefe so far.

 

[UpHere]

who should care? they're not oilers anymore - we should start a Foegele Desharnais thread to keep track - maybe throw in McLeod too - this thread is bad