The Loss of Broberg and Holloway Gripe Thread

[CantHaveTkachev]

Too bad some posters keep ignoring that. Broberg was gone regardless. Period. Holloway was just collateral damage. Bowman couldve retained the latter but I guess they didn't feel he was worth 2x the price, messed up wrist and all

He has essentially confirmed the bolded statement. He said he was glad he got the offer sheet as he was ready to move on. That pretty much confirms for me that he was not signing for any amount that made sense for the Oilers.

or they could've just signed the offer sheet, play him this year and if he still wants to leave next offseason, trade him

plus, a lot of players rescind trade requests

 

[McJesusSaves97]

Too bad some posters keep ignoring that. Broberg was gone regardless. Period. Holloway was just collateral damage. Bowman couldve retained the latter but I guess they didn't feel he was worth 2x the price, messed up wrist and all

He has essentially confirmed the bolded statement. He said he was glad he got the offer sheet as he was ready to move on. That pretty much confirms for me that he was not signing for any amount that made sense for the Oilers.

I don't blame him for wanting to move on. We dicked him around so much. We can say the player wanted to move on, until we are blue in the face, but the situation didn't need to get to that point & there are reasons it got to that point. The org screwed up here & now we developed him for the Blues to have a young top 4 D on their roster for the next 10 years. Sure, ya, great move...most here think it was the right thing to do. Not buying it...

 

[GOilers88]

I could also see a situation where maybe the offer sheet is already signed but the Blues just have to file it, and they are waiting for perfect timing. Maybe making a trade in that situation is near impossible because as soon as the Blues get any whiff they pull the trigger. But the problem there is that how would anyone else know what the Blues are up to besides Broberg and perhaps the Oilers? Why would Utah or Chicago or Calgary or whoever know?

It's just that the simple answer is that we just assumed that Broberg would accept whatever we gave him because our team is just that awesome. Fresh off of a finals appearance and a plan to use him in the top 4 next year. It just makes the most sense that our management misread the situation entirely.

He wanted out long before the playoffs last year, and that didn't change this summer. This idea that management just assumed they could offer whatever and he would take it is silly. Like they have no finger on the pulse of their own players and don't actually talk to them behind the curtains.

I'm sure they were well aware of risks involving Broberg being offersheeted and didn't think he would just sign whatever they wanted to throw at him.

 

[frag2]

or they could've just signed the offer sheet, play him this year and if he still wants to leave next offseason, trade him

plus, a lot of players rescind trade requests

and if he sucks, you have a 4+M anchor on a team thats already strapped for cash

I don't blame him for wanting to move on. We dicked him around so much. We can say the player wanted to move on, until we are blue in the face, but the situation didn't need to get to that point & there are reasons it got to that point. The org screwed up here & now we developed him for the Blues to have a young top 4 D on their roster for the next 10 years. Sure, ya, great move...most here think it was the right thing to do. Not buying it...

Not sure how him not showing well during multiple preseasons to take a spot is the team dicking him

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

and if he sucks, you have a 4+M anchor on a team thats already strapped for cash

that's the risk you take....no bigger risk than letting him go for peanuts only to see another franchise reap the benefits

and right now, St. Louis is looking pretty smart and identifying the playoffs were not a fluke like everyone said around here and there's a budding top 4 defenseman on their hands...all he needed was an opportunity

 

[McJesusSaves97]

and if he sucks, you have a 4+M anchor on a team thats already strapped for cash



Not sure how him not showing well during multiple preseasons to take a spot is the team dicking him

He showed well on the biggest stage possible. No, I don't think he was amazing, but he stepped in & looked the part. He had to watch many players, frankly that are not very good, get opportunities over him. Remember, Bouch looked like absolute garbage, a wasted pick maybe, b4 he was paired with Ekholm. They are ready when they are ready. Sure there was risk in giving him 4M for 2 years, but it's not a long term commitment. The greater risk is losing him for essentially nothing & watching him flourish elsewhere for the next decade.

 

[MessierII]

Bouch looked like absolute garbage, a wasted pick maybe, b4 he was paired with Ekholm.

Weird I don’t remember that at all

 

[Mr Positive]

He wanted out long before the playoffs last year, and that didn't change this summer. This idea that management just assumed they could offer whatever and he would take it is silly. Like they have no finger on the pulse of their own players and don't actually talk to them behind the curtains.

I'm sure they were well aware of risks involving Broberg being offersheeted and didn't think he would just sign whatever they wanted to throw at him.

They did offer Broberg something though, and my assumption is reasonable based on what was offered.

You also have no better idea about what Broberg thought of the team than anyone else. Yes he requested trades, but the reasons for doing so are more complex than just that he disliked the organization

All signs point to that he was displeased because he wasn't getting NHL time and opportunity. It didn't seem to be about money. That is another assumption but that's the best assumption based on the info given

So yes, it does seem that the Oilers were a bit arrogant by assuming that Broberg would be appeased by telling that he was guaranteed a spot on the team this time having earned it with his excellent play in the playoffs, and likely top 4 as well.

And again, we are all in the dark on this one for the most part. To me this narrative is the one that makes the most sense. Either way it's just splitting hairs. The Oilers misread and mismanaged the situation in some way. The final outcome is proof enough of that

 

[McJesusSaves97]

or they could've just signed the offer sheet, play him this year and if he still wants to leave next offseason, trade him

plus, a lot of players rescind trade request

Weird I don’t remember that at all

Bouch didn't look good out of the gate. Was absolutely brutal defensively...lost

 

[Fourier]

or they could've just signed the offer sheet, play him this year and if he still wants to leave next offseason, trade him

plus, a lot of players rescind trade requests

How would they have fit his cap hit in if they knew Kane was not out for the year. It would have meant moving out Kulak and at least one other player then running with a 20 man roster.

 

[FlameChampion]

I think the thing that kind of sucks is I personally just like seeing young players contribute and succeed. I personally like watching a Holloway, Lavoie, Broberg etc score a goal then a Perry, Ryan, etc.

This team especially with how they have been playing doesn’t feel very exciting for me personally.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

Blues down 6-0, Surprisingly Holloway Broberg are even lol. No minuses

 

[unicornBLOOD]

one thing is for sure, warranted or not, petty or not (and we all know it most definitely is petty), St. Louis is my new MOST HATED team, and I am cheering against Broberg and Holloway. All that being said, they did nothing wrong, but I'm a crazy FANatic, and I'm exercising my all that being a FAN entails.

Go Sens, Boo Blues!!!

 

[Jumptheshark]

This thread maybe alive for the next 10 years

 

[BlackDogg]

This thread maybe alive for the next 10 years

They will never live this down.

 

[Mr Positive]

This thread maybe alive for the next 10 years

It should be. Senselessly losing two of our best young players is not okay and shouldn't be forgotten

 

[BlackDogg]

It should be. Senselessly losing two of our best young players is not okay and shouldn't be forgotten

When the cupboard is bare and the "today" superstars are underwhelming (and hurt), this becomes a reality.

 

[CanadasTeam99]

I don't mind following them for this year at least. I don't blame them. I hate Broberg. Prick talked to Holloway about coming.

I wish nothing but Broberg busting hard

Holloway got one tonight. Brobery with an assist on it

Got pounded 7-1
Ullmark with a nice 0.962

 

[Heavy Dee]

How would they have fit his cap hit in if they knew Kane was not out for the year. It would have meant moving out Kulak and at least one other player then running with a 20 man roster.

Yes and that's what they should have done.

 

[Zerotonine]

Man broberg is just clowning oilers management right now.

Blues lose 8-1 and broberg finishes the night EVEN with 24 freaken minutes of ice time

I didn't think he was worth the 4 million per season but he sure playing with a chip on his shoulder with outta doubt

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Man broberg is just clowning oilers management right now.

Blues lose 8-1 and broberg finishes the night EVEN with 24 freaken minutes of ice time

I didn't think he was worth the 4 million per season but he sure playing with a chip on his shoulder with outta doubt

Broberg was the only player on the team that didn’t finish with a minus despite playing the most minutes on the team
But we got some accrued cap space

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Broberg and Holloway are embarrassing the Oilers management almost every other night
Armstrong looking like a genius for stealing those players…Broberg the only player who finishes without a minus while playing almost 25 mins tonight
Wow

 

[Oilhawks]

Broberg and Holloway are embarrassing the Oilers management almost every other night
Armstrong looking like a genius for stealing those players…Broberg the only player who finishes without a minus while playing almost 25 mins tonight
Wow

Neither of those players would be getting the plum opportunities they're getting over there.

 

[Lay Z Boy GM]

Man broberg is just clowning oilers management right now.

Blues lose 8-1 and broberg finishes the night EVEN with 24 freaken minutes of ice time

I didn't think he was worth the 4 million per season but he sure playing with a chip on his shoulder with outta doubt

That’s actually really impressive for him and embarrassing for the rest of their team.

I wasn’t comfortable with gambling on Broberg but man.. I was wrong, we could really use him

 

[CantHaveTkachev]

Neither of those players would be getting the plum opportunities they're getting over there.

Holloway has more goals then Hyman, Arvidsson and Nuge combined..he would definitely get a look in the top 6

Broberg would be tied for points by a d-man on the team and is +5
Emberson, Stetcher and Dermott have 0 points on the season and are a combined -9
He would definitely get a look on the top 4