The Kreider Thread (1/22: Kreider fine, skating at practice)

Not Dubinsky-lite because he will be better than Dubinsky, most likely. But similar in style.

Kreider will make the team. He has earned a look in NHL games with his performance last season. The Whale is not a good AHL team and production in the AHL has nothing to do with production in the NHL. There are guys who score well over point per game paces in the AHL and spend their entire careers there without ever being able to crack the NHL and guys who never produced at the AHL level but are able to jump right into the NHL and succeed. I don't think Kreider's STATS in the AHL will even be looked at or considered by Torts in making his decision. Some tape of Kreider's overall PLAY might be looked at, but the stats are irrelevant. He will have different stats playing, for example, on a line with Nash and Stepan than he does in the AHL playing with non-NHLers and rookies. He will get a chance in the top six right out of the gate and his performance in the NHL is what will determine if he needs to be sent back down; nothing else.

In other word's, his unable to make his line mates better?
 
And that's just Marc Staal. You could find like 5 of these of Callahan nailing guys twice his size.

Really can't believe people are questioning this team's grit, of all the things you could question.... :shakehead


thank you for posting these and thanks for pointing out cally. Dude has some HUGE hits and he is forward and middleweight at best. Rangers either lead the league or were close to it in hits last year i believe. I know we had the most block shots but i feel we were up there for hits too if i remember correctly.
 
The way he got up and was rubbing his jaw made me think it was more pain from the point of impact than getting concussed, but good new anyways.

Remember Kreider got his jaw broken a few years ago, taking a shoulder to the chin probably didn't feel too good and might have been a bit of a flashback.

Of course I'm making all that up but that's all anyone ever does on these boards anyways
 
Glad hes OK.

Unfortunately, thats the type of hit that makes a player more tentative. Not very good news considering Kreider has looked nothing but tentative and disengaged to start the season.

Hopefully he comes around soon, along with the other group of no-show forwards like Stepan, Gaborik, and Hagelin.
 
I dont' think he's looked tentative and disengaged...he just really has not seen much icetime or spent much time in the offensive zone. He has gotten less than 11 minutes of icetime in each game so far, which isn't really much for a rookie player to get comfortable and sort things out, especially when he's playing with Boyle who is struggling quite a bit to start the season as well
 
I dont' think he's looked tentative and disengaged...he just really has not seen much icetime or spent much time in the offensive zone. He has gotten less than 11 minutes of icetime in each game so far, which isn't really much for a rookie player to get comfortable and sort things out, especially when he's playing with Boyle who is struggling quite a bit to start the season as well

There's not a point in time during the season in which Kreider should play with Boyle.

Struggling or not.
 
Well this points to a Nash-Richards-Gaborik line, if Kreider is skating on the 2nd line. Hagelin "demoted" to a checking line duty already?
 
Did I hear Bickel on the 4th line?

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Good to see Kreider on the ice, but I really don't like stacking the top line like that.
I still think it might be better to have Kreider-Richards-Gaborik on the top line and Nash-Stepan-Callahan on the second line.

If Hagelin starts playing a little smarter he will probably move up in to the top 6
 

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