The Great Wyatt Kalynuk Appreciation thread (And former Hawks talk vol 8)

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"for the most part, the participants reported that they only learned about the incident at a high level—that Aldrich, a coach, tried to “get under the sheets” with John Doe, a player."

"None of the participants recalled being told about the type of clearly non-consensual sexual conduct that is described by John Doe in his lawsuit or was described during John Doe’s interview with us."

"Bowman recalled a statement by McDonough, the most senior member of management in the room, that he would handle the situation."

"According to the Director of Human Resources, McDonough also informed her about the May 23 meeting in his office, during which McDonough said it was decided that the group would not alert Human Resources or do anything about the incident during the playoffs so as not to disturb team chemistry"

"On June 16, 2010, the Director of Human Resources met with Aldrich and offered him the option to undergo an investigation into what occurred with John Doe or to resign."

If I had to guess Jim Gary came into the meeting sugarcoated for all the higher ups during this insane playoff time. Nobody knew how bad it really was and thought the weird trainer was hitting on Beach. They said F that we will deal with it in a week or two when the seasons done.

-I dont know if you can completely call for Joel's career when nobody knows the real details. I think thats up to the individual team to decide. One thing I dont get is why the Human Resource director would offer and investigation and not just do one.
Those are all just interviews, not depositions.
 

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Gotta remember that Hagel was a Sabres pick…they didn’t sign him…grew his game under the Sutters’ coaching(along with RJohnson)…he would have been a Kyle Calder on a bad team for a few years here, he was moved for Raddysh and Katchouk, two equally talented junior similiar players…AND TWO MORE top 32 players…definitely a good trade, Raddysh had 20 goals
I see Cole Guttman as ANOTHER Hagel, unsigned by TB…
Sure.

But 30 goals> 20 goals any way you slice it on top of Hagel is a much, much better player then Raddysh. Hell, you could add up both stats of Raddysh and Boris and they're probably not better then Hagels alone. Throw in that both are what, the same age as Hagel? I mean if Hagel was too old for the rebuild isn't both of those players too old also?

KD has to hit on those draft picks. Thats the point of all of this along with nobody even knows if KD knows how to rebuild a team or draft out a rebuild properly.

Right now, Hagel is better then that haul. Like it or not, there's no sugar coating it.

Holding onto Hagel and Debrincat makes it less likely the Hawks get the gamebreaking talent they need in the draft. If you're skeptical of the Hawks scouts finding a Hagel tier player at 20th I'm not sure why you think they're going to find a 1C for Hagel and Debrincat to play with when they're stuck picking 7th-15th every year.
Debrincat now wasn't a game breaking talent?

So trade away a game breaking talent in hopes of getting a game breaking talent?


(Scrathes head)
 

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Sure.

But 30 goals> 20 goals any way you slice it on top of Hagel is a much, much better player then Raddysh. Hell, you could add up both stats of Raddysh and Boris and they're probably not better then Hagels alone. Throw in that both are what, the same age as Hagel? I mean if Hagel was too old for the rebuild isn't both of those players too old also?

KD has to hit on those draft picks. Thats the point of all of this along with nobody even knows if KD knows how to rebuild a team or draft out a rebuild properly.

Right now, Hagel is better then that haul. Like it or not, there's no sugar coating it.


Debrincat now wasn't a game breaking talent?

So trade away a game breaking talent in hopes of getting a game breaking talent?


(Scrathes head)
Raddysh and Katchouk both have promise…19 or 20 overall could land Danielson or Ritchie and STILL another 1st to come

DeBrincat would have been Amonte like for this team, great on bad team, Korchinski, Ludwinski and a 3rd is a fine return
 
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Holding onto Hagel and Debrincat makes it less likely the Hawks get the gamebreaking talent they need in the draft. If you're skeptical of the Hawks scouts finding a Hagel tier player at 20th I'm not sure why you think they're going to find a 1C for Hagel and Debrincat to play with when they're stuck picking 7th-15th every year.

Yeah I was really bummed initially with the Hagel trade, but the returns are looking very good. Raddysh, Katchouk even show enough promise to maybe stick around beyond asset value.

Hags is obviously doing amazing in Tampa, like we all knew he would.

I'm sure if you ask KD and co, Hagel would be top on their list as far as player types they want to mold the team into.

But the timing sucked, or well was dictating another way.
 
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Debrincat now wasn't a game breaking talent?

So trade away a game breaking talent in hopes of getting a game breaking talent?


(Scrathes head)
It takes more than one. He would hinder the team from acquiring more. If you're worried about the scouts making the correct picks at 20-30 to replace Hagel I don't know why you think they would find a Toews replacement picking 7-15. You're advocating for the team to keep Debrincat and eventually he would most likely be their best player barring massive lottery luck. If Debrincat is your best player your team probably f***ing sucks.
 
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A guy who scores 40 goals, which would be the best player on alot of teams, means your team sucks......

It's Christmas in May with all these gifts.
 

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He was hired by Dale because Dale was friends with Doug Wilson. Aldrich's dad was the equipment manager of the sharks. He was hired while Savard was coaching. Its all in the report you just have to read it instead of making shit up. Full Stop
Sorry.

...and Aldrich directly reported to whom? I'll spot you one letter, Q
 

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Sorry.

...and Aldrich directly reported to whom? I'll spot you one letter, Q
but the quote was about Q hiring him. Which was not true and I explained that. So you saying who he reported to has zero do to with anything I said.
 

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Forsling was a good reminder that a lot of defenseman take a long time to develop. He didn’t look promising to me while he was here that’s for sure. I thought he’d be yet another one of our failed D prospects (I know we traded for him) that topped out as a 5/6 if an NHL player at all from the Bowman era.
 

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Matt Tompkins terminates Shl deal. Expected to sign nhl deal.
 

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Forsling was a good reminder that a lot of defenseman take a long time to develop. He didn’t look promising to me while he was here that’s for sure. I thought he’d be yet another one of our failed D prospects (I know we traded for him) that topped out as a 5/6 if an NHL player at all from the Bowman era.
I thought he was an absolute nothing, just a roster filler. I could not have been more wrong.
 
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