The Great Cam Barker Appreciation thread (And former Hawks talk vol 7)

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featherhawk

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That's nice. Do you think, at any point of his career, he'll be a #1, franchise defenseman?
Because if you do, I have a bridge I want to sell you.

no I don't and I don't want your bridge.

just nice to see Adam having success, that is after all what this thread is all about.
 

ploppsdman

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That's nice. Do you think, at any point of his career, he'll be a #1, franchise defenseman?
Because if you do, I have a bridge I want to sell you.

I'm not a Bodqvist fan but I will take him over Seth Jones and his 9.5 million a year for forever.
 

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I'm not a Bodqvist fan but I will take him over Seth Jones and his 9.5 million a year for forever.
Sorry, not even close. Elite two way dmen are a little hard to scare up. And the Hawks didn't have one before the trade. And they had none with the potential to be one.
 
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That's nice. Do you think, at any point of his career, he'll be a #1, franchise defenseman?
Because if you do, I have a bridge I want to sell you.
Idk your standard but I think he'll have a OEL like ceiling and if you think he was a legit #1 in his prime Zona days Boqvist will be
 

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Sorry, not even close. Elite two way dmen are a little hard to scare up. And the Hawks didn't have one before the trade. And they had none with the potential to be one.
Jones has 3 goals 19 assists 22 points so far this year, in 24 games…6 points more than any Hawk all of last year(Boqvist by the way)…Blackhawks record for assists by a defenceman in a single season is 58(Chelios twice)…Jones is on pace for 10 goals 65 assists 75 points on a presently ‘struggling’ offensive team…Keith only reached 61 and 69 points for his best, Chelios had seasons of 72 and 73 points…Jones is defiantly elite
 

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I think it was only one game that Boqvist was a healthy scratch. Seems some folks are cheering for him to fail.

-boqvist hasnt been healthy scratched
*shows hes been healthy scratched*
- your rooting for him to fail

uh what?

i do not care about boqvist even a little bit. Maybe one day he can lead his team in scoring like Seth Jones is right now.
 

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AHL is much better talent than the WHL. Dach physically dominates the WHL the next year. You gain very little from that. AHL would have been perfect. I would have sent him down to the WHL. Again, I was not defending the choices they made.
Agreed. Not to mention that Dach had developed some bad habits due to the fact that he could get away with them in the WHL. Unless the coaches were astute enough to see that Dach would have kept playing that same style.
If he was AHL eligible, he would have quickly learned that what worked in Junior wouldn't necessarily work at the Pro level ... instead he had to learn the hard way in the NHL... and all because of a dumb rule.
 

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Agreed. Not to mention that Dach had developed some bad habits due to the fact that he could get away with them in the WHL. Unless the coaches were astute enough to see that Dach would have kept playing that same style.
If he was AHL eligible, he would have quickly learned that what worked in Junior wouldn't necessarily work at the Pro level ... instead he had to learn the hard way in the NHL... and all because of a dumb rule.
It's not a "dumb rule". Its intent is to prevent the NHL from raiding the CHL of its top talent. Without that rule, top CHL talent would spend one less year being marketed by the league. Which would, in turn, hurt the financial health of the league.

It's a pretty good idea to preserve the financial health of the league that provides the NHL with the largest percentage of its talent.
 

BobbyJet

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It's not a "dumb rule". Its intent is to prevent the NHL from raiding the CHL of its top talent. Without that rule, top CHL talent would spend one less year being marketed by the league. Which would, in turn, hurt the financial health of the league.

It's a pretty good idea to preserve the financial health of the league that provides the NHL with the largest percentage of its talent.
Thank you for your wisdom. I'm well aware of the intent.... doesn't help a player like Dach though who has clearly outgrown Jr hockey but is too green to be thrust into the NHL.
 
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No one mentioned Subban giving up 6 goals in his Sabre debut? Subban would not be getting more NHL chances if he didn't have Subban name and was first round pick

Its time to pull plug on the Subban is an NHL talent experiement

Joker scored his first goal of season in the 6-2 loss though

Teravainen scored 2 goals for Canes

Wish we had TT and Joker
 

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It's not a "dumb rule". Its intent is to prevent the NHL from raiding the CHL of its top talent. Without that rule, top CHL talent would spend one less year being marketed by the league. Which would, in turn, hurt the financial health of the league.

It's a pretty good idea to preserve the financial health of the league that provides the NHL with the largest percentage of its talent.

Overall, I agree with the rule but each team should have 1-2 exceptions to use.

I would redo the rule. I would grant each team 2 exceptions every 2 years. When you use an exception, it does not renew for two years, and you must use it by day 1 of the NHL season. If used, you cannot get it back if send the player back (which you must do within the first 3 weeks of the AHL season). CHL should also be compensated for losing a top player.
 

BobbyJet

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Overall, I agree with the rule but each team should have 1-2 exceptions to use.

I would redo the rule. I would grant each team 2 exceptions every 2 years. When you use an exception, it does not renew for two years, and you must use it by day 1 of the NHL season. If used, you cannot get it back if send the player back (which you must do within the first 3 weeks of the AHL season). CHL should also be compensated for losing a top player.
Yes, there should be the occasional exception to eligibility rules. Like back in the day when fourteen-year-old Bobby Orr signed a contract to play Junior A comes to mind ... when most players his age were playing Major Bantam.
 

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Overall, I agree with the rule but each team should have 1-2 exceptions to use.

I would redo the rule. I would grant each team 2 exceptions every 2 years. When you use an exception, it does not renew for two years, and you must use it by day 1 of the NHL season. If used, you cannot get it back if send the player back (which you must do within the first 3 weeks of the AHL season). CHL should also be compensated for losing a top player.
Given real, sufficient compensation, I could see a limited exception system. Keeping the CHL healthy and viable has to be a top priority when it comes to rules on drafted players.
 
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