you Giroux it for me
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he topped out at 80 for me, despite me forcing him into higher lines and playing games so I KNOW he would get points. the game clearly hates him
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he topped out at 80 for me, despite me forcing him into higher lines and playing games so I KNOW he would get points. the game clearly hates him
GinoLucia2217
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That's high man! Highest. I've ever seen him top out was 78 most times 77 76
tacogeoff
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Drafted a RW PWF name Wiseman 1st overall........five green stars. First year he started at 88, second year 91, third year 94. Had to sign his first contract at 13mill a year for 7 after his initial rookie contract lmao. Sad thing is he only averaged about 53 points over the three years playing with McKinnon and Zykov. He is fast, hits hard but has a wild shot that never hits the net.........should I use his high trade value for more overall depth or ride him out and see if he develops into more of a goal scorer?
tacogeoff
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Picked him up of FA on a 2yr contract and got him from 82-83 and traded him for a draft pick at the 2nd year deadline.
Tak7
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Personally speaking - there's something about the way that PWFs develop and simulate in your top 6 forwards that I just don't like.
I rarely ever keep hold of them and move them in preference of playmakers + snipers.
I would imagine his trade value is pretty damn high!? It's almost tempting to keep hold of him and see what he becomes, purely because he sounds young enough that you can afford to give him some years until you trade him without having to worry about decline in his abilty or value.
Jesus though, how many teams can even accept that contract?!
GinoLucia2217
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Some teams have like 20 million in cap space it's ridiculous.
I think one time I've seen the Dallas Stars have 25 million
tacogeoff
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Me too, from my experience there is usually a few teams that are in full on rebuild mode that have a ton of cap space. You usually wont get much from them except draft picks and maybe a few possible 4 - 4.5 star prospects.
Love the BAGM. It is all I play. I wonder what else they could integrate into it to make it more interesting? Madden did jersey sales based on popularity and how the player performs which was kind of neat.
GinoLucia2217
Great Plains
More potential scaling. A different color for a player to signify that he has VERY low chance of meeting his potential, so say a 5th rounder was takin with like 4 __insert color here__ potential. That would solve the problem of no gems in later rounds
tacogeoff
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that is true. I do hate that there are never any possible good players after about the 20th pick in the 2nd round if you are lucky. I usually just auto the draft after the 2nd round as there are no surprise draft picks out there. I think it was NHL 12? that random late draft picks would randomly become good if developed with a good surrounding cast.
ChibiPooky
Yay hockey!
In order to accomplish that, they need to take prospect development off rails (no more "development tracks"). Predetermined development tracks are one of the most idiotic things in the game. They make it so if you have a top prospect with a fast, high development track (Seth Jones, Jonathan Drouin) you can wait to sign them until the second year and have a high 80s rated player on ELC for 3 years - but if you have a late-developing player whose ELC is used up because you had to sign him to retain his rights, if you sign him long term, you have to pay based on what he's going to become, because that's already predetermined. It also prevents you from screwing up the prospect's development, or having a really good developmental system that consistently churns out better young players under team control. Basically it just contributes to the overall atmosphere of "every player is the same".
GinoLucia2217
Great Plains
So what should they do then. I actually agree with you about the whole predetermined thing, but how do you propose to fix it. Of you just added a stat in the game such as work ethic and talent that wouldn't help because it is predetermined.
The problem is, pretty much everything in a video game IS predetermined. Now I'm no coding genius or anything but if there is a way for them to code that if you put one of your blue chip prospects in the AHL with maybe a savvy vet who has lost his game but still knows how to play and with the right captains etc. that would help a persons development.
you Giroux it for me
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I knew he wouldn't really progress when I was able to sign him to a 8 year 1.25-1.3 mil a year deal. Sure enough, he never became anything other than a Depth/Other FWD
Not sure if Nikita Scherbak has been mentioned in here but he won the Art Ross, Hart and Rocket after posting 58 goals and 40 assists. He had low trade value so I swapped David Rundblad for him and while he's never quite lived up to that he's been around 40-45 goals for me every year and around 80 points.
William Nylander finally broke through for me too after a few good, but not great seasons. He had 24 goals and 80 assists for 104 points.
Lastly, I've heard lots of people rave about Erne and Rychel here - I played them in my top 6 for a season and they did alright - about 45 points but as soon as I dropped them to the bottom 6 they've done nothing for me. 20-30 points a year, turned to white potential and dropped to about 80 OVR each.
William Nylander finally broke through for me too after a few good, but not great seasons. He had 24 goals and 80 assists for 104 points.
Lastly, I've heard lots of people rave about Erne and Rychel here - I played them in my top 6 for a season and they did alright - about 45 points but as soon as I dropped them to the bottom 6 they've done nothing for me. 20-30 points a year, turned to white potential and dropped to about 80 OVR each.
you Giroux it for me
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I really like what the madden games do with their draft and player potential. Every player has a different development stat, which are: slow, avg, fast, and star. You can find each type in any round, and just because someone is the top pick doesn't mean that they have star potential. That type of talent variation, PLUS being on the clock and having the ability to trade up during the draft, not just beforehand, are things that I can only hope that EA just takes from one of their properties, and flips to their other.
GinoLucia2217
Great Plains
Because Madden is the top dog for EA sports so they get all the best features. NHL is just EA's side show that people buy because we are the. It's loyal fan group and love us some NHL
you Giroux it for me
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you'd think they'd at least be able to walk across the proverbial hallway and hand them a skeleton outline on how they created their prospect system. Hell, I would be fine with them throwing a thumb drive at a programmer's head with the exact file they use on it, with a sticky note attached saying "replace names, put in game"
ChibiPooky
Yay hockey!
A large part of the problem is that there's literally ONE thing that affects player development - the "rail". Break it down further, add more factors, and have each factor decided independently and randomly. That's a start.
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KuemperTantrum
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this is the highest undrafted player potential I've ever seen
Hah, that's crazy. Did you draft him or atleast find out how good he was?
KuemperTantrum
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Drafted some big playmaking winger named Brett Roach in the 2020 draft, 3rd overall. He came out of the draft at 82 overall, 4.5 yellow. He's also 6'5 215lbs and his speed, acceleration, and agility are 95. 
He won the Calder in his first year with 9g 52a on my second line and we also won the Cup the same season. Pretty solid rookie year for him.
He won the Calder in his first year with 9g 52a on my second line and we also won the Cup the same season. Pretty solid rookie year for him.
you Giroux it for me
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It hasn't gotten to that point yet, still a few weeks away. I'm expecting him to go from undrafted to an actual round, but still. I've never seen it that high
LeHaboholique
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KuemperTantrum
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Ah, okay, my bad then. I thought it was already at the draft. I'm excited to see after he's drafted, I've never seen an undrafted guy with potential like that.
