Good Lord! Every good team is in cap trouble... some of the bad ones too. No one could possibly have anticipated what the pandemic has done to salary management in the NHL. The Leafs have had winning percentages of .688 and .701 for the past two seasons. They're not exactly struggling.
The Fate of Dubas
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deprw
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I agree that it isn't about winning trades, but it's about winning championship. I'm not sure that making those trades would make us any better.
If we dumb Nylander for two first that bust and he become 90p player we would crucify Dubas. Same with Marner.
So if you make that move be sure to make those assets and cap space count. I don't see any UFA I'd want to sign so much that I'd give up any of those two.
If we can keep our core I think we can compete next decade even after Tavares and Dubas.
Racer88
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And lose in the 1st round for the 6th year in a row……don’t forget that part
Ya they are……see playoff record
mcleex
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AllDay28
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Not just favourites, but Montreal and Columbus were statistically the worse playoff team respectively ….still couldn’t win
HolyCrap
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I’ve come to the conclusion there is a small amount of fans here who don’t care about the playoffs. It’s regular season that seems to matter. Thankfully the vast majority are like us and want post season success. It’s been a huge failure as team so far.
PROUD PAPA
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I tend to agree. I've just seen too many situations where a change of scenery was all it took for players to excel.
Doesn't always work but doesn't always fail either.
Tak7
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We never left that era? The Leafs have always looked for bargain bin guys, and have more often than not been able to attract them due to the higher AHL salaries / one-way deals they can offer compared to other markets.
SnizzNasty88
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I’ve been saying this since the 2020 bubble, Dubass is by far and away the worst GM in the national and it’s not even close. Think about it. What has he done? He inherited the core of this team and Tavares is on a steep decline. Muzzin? Please we’re already trying to move him meanwhile Durzi looks great in LA and Bjornfot is a good piece. Dubass is the worst GM in the league AINEC. What a pathetic excuse to hockey. Fire this hack, fire ShanaSCAM, and fire Keefe as well.
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notdoneyet
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Getting guys that move the needle cost money. Trading holl and kerfoot doesn’t give us enough cap to make a solid pick up. Some of their 5.5 goes to the new engval signing anD sandin if they can get him signed . Dubas has put himself in the position to only dumpster dive
SnizzNasty88
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I guess, if we want to be politically correct then yeah sure why not, wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest, Leafs = Libs
Tak7
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Yep - the Leafs have to move more money out before they add more money. There's options for them though; they can still open up money via sending players down to the minors and running a 20 or 21 man roster, and salary retention is an option too.
We need to stop acting like this project is doomed.
keonsbitterness
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If the regular season is actually supposed to mean something, then we were favourites over Tampa.
Let's hire a Trumpie so he can get others to try and fix the draft, and claim innocence if it doesn't work.
Sign me up!
binop7
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Sure but relying on guys like that to consistently make an NHL team is wishful thinking
I honestly believe the hardest part of evaluating his performance, is that literally one call or one non penalty call and we may have won rounds. Then - was it a good team? Or should he tear down and try something crazy different…
I know it’s an over simplification, but at the same time intellectually I get that we really aren’t that far off either.
Yes, we need to be better - but weve had damn good teams whether the vocal Dubas haters believe that or not.
It’s an impossible situation…Im not a Dubas fan boy, but I don’t think it’s all his fault.
I know it’s an over simplification, but at the same time intellectually I get that we really aren’t that far off either.
Yes, we need to be better - but weve had damn good teams whether the vocal Dubas haters believe that or not.
It’s an impossible situation…Im not a Dubas fan boy, but I don’t think it’s all his fault.
HolyCrap
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Great regular season team. Come playoffs the team chokes. Hopefully this is the year they go deep otherwise it’s been an epic fail for this core and current team.
Racer88
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All we need now is some success to go along with this “great team”
At least Dubas is signing most of these rotation players to short contracts so the next GM will have a head start……what a great guy
Dreakmur
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We were elite when defending Dubas and Keefe.... but we also weren't much better than mediocre teams to justify losing in the playoffs.
Leaf Army
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Dubas needs to go. And I'm not even a Dubas hater. He has a lot of strengths. And he's done a lot of things I like.
But he's shown a complete lack of understanding of how to build a winning team. The moves he's made this offseason are uninspiring to say the least.
Look at how this team is built...
You've got Matthews, Marner, Nylander and Tavares. I like that part. But behind them you've got Bunting, Kerfoot, Robertson, Jarnkrok, Malgin, Engvall, Kampf, Aube-Kubel and Gaudette.
Do you know how many goals our bottom NINE forwards have scored in the playoffs? A combined 15 goals in 192 games! That is just atrocious. Over an 82 game season that is a 6 goal pace.
And people wonder why we can't win in the playoffs. There's literally no mystery. It's clear as day. And Dubas either can't see it or is too stubborn to adapt.
But he's shown a complete lack of understanding of how to build a winning team. The moves he's made this offseason are uninspiring to say the least.
Look at how this team is built...
You've got Matthews, Marner, Nylander and Tavares. I like that part. But behind them you've got Bunting, Kerfoot, Robertson, Jarnkrok, Malgin, Engvall, Kampf, Aube-Kubel and Gaudette.
Do you know how many goals our bottom NINE forwards have scored in the playoffs? A combined 15 goals in 192 games! That is just atrocious. Over an 82 game season that is a 6 goal pace.
And people wonder why we can't win in the playoffs. There's literally no mystery. It's clear as day. And Dubas either can't see it or is too stubborn to adapt.
Name me one of Dubas's strengths? I cant think of one. Unless u are considering ruining a potential dynasty....what he walked into was a gift, he ruined it real quick.
therealkoho
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Exactly, and ironically enough have yet to be played, but LeaFlanders are positive in their negativity, that the Leafs have already lost in the 1st round, and have lost more than likely in a game 7 where they blow a 3 goal 3rd period lead.
*Stay tuned more on this coming soon
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