brentashton
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Speculation: The Bruins and Jeremy Swayman are far apart in contract term (length) and dollar amount.
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It has nothing to do with who owns the team. its that the goalie wants to be paid at a not deserved ammount. Its basically a bad contract waiting to happen.
Sweeney shares nothing. He'll be signed by opening night. Probably is down within a million and it's not in either side's interest to let it play out this long.
He's still very young and missing some/most of camp won't hinder him. He'll thrive in a bigger role and has wanted to, and has been ready to be the guy for a while.
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48 in 58 in brutal for the apparent 2nd best player in the world according to their fans (even #1 for the most delusional). Especially when you look at his stats in elimination games.
McDavid almost tied that in a single run lol.
We can always count on you, @nbwingsfan , to bash the Leafs.
Going after Matthews' pre-season scoring record, in a Jeremy Swayman thread? Come on, now, you can do better than that!
Give it a try!
Going after Matthews' pre-season scoring record, in a Jeremy Swayman thread? Come on, now, you can do better than that!
Give it a try!
Dipietro is hardly AHL talent.
Bussi is disappointing but even he is borderline #3...
Call me crazy... but I feel like the B's are in a bit of an impossible position here.
Paying goalies the big bucks is fraught with issues. They can get hurt, they can suffer from poor play, and honestly, more importantly, to win a Stanley Cup, you have to go through 4 teams -- at least one of which will have a goalie making $5-6m less performing at the same level.
No GM really wants to say "I'm building a team to win in 3-4 years" when they've got a team as good as the B's are right now.... which is essentially what you're saying when you give a young player 8-years.... "I'm overpaying you now, in hopes that as the cap rises and you continue to improve, you'll be underpaid in the back half".
Swayman apparently wants $9.5 x 8... the B's I'd imagine want to be at $6m x 4 or 5. If you imagine that he's a $13-14m goalie in 4-5 years... it's essentially the same money. Considering where the B's are at as a franchise right now, $6m x5 is an unquestionably better idea.
It's not a "non-belief" in Jeremy Swayman, simply an identification that goaltending is voodoo, and the team is in a position to win now.
Paying goalies the big bucks is fraught with issues. They can get hurt, they can suffer from poor play, and honestly, more importantly, to win a Stanley Cup, you have to go through 4 teams -- at least one of which will have a goalie making $5-6m less performing at the same level.
No GM really wants to say "I'm building a team to win in 3-4 years" when they've got a team as good as the B's are right now.... which is essentially what you're saying when you give a young player 8-years.... "I'm overpaying you now, in hopes that as the cap rises and you continue to improve, you'll be underpaid in the back half".
Swayman apparently wants $9.5 x 8... the B's I'd imagine want to be at $6m x 4 or 5. If you imagine that he's a $13-14m goalie in 4-5 years... it's essentially the same money. Considering where the B's are at as a franchise right now, $6m x5 is an unquestionably better idea.
It's not a "non-belief" in Jeremy Swayman, simply an identification that goaltending is voodoo, and the team is in a position to win now.
brentashton
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Yes. The person cutting cheques has nothing to do with high value/dollar contracts that influence the business . Maybe in the government and public service but this is a private business. It’s different.
I’m not suggesting his contract will sink the franchise economically but it’s naive to think an owner doesn’t have influence on contract negotiations where the agent has stated an objective to “set the market “ for the position.
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He didnt bring Matthews name up and he's talking about the post-season. Good job.
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The thing is what team would be happy giving those picks away along with paying Swayman $9 million a year? Not so sure it would be easy to trade him, or at least not for a huge return.
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Talbot the year before Ottawa: .911
In Ottawa: .898
The year after: .913
Korpisalo is streaky but he's had some decent numbers before, and Boston often gets the most out of goalies. I really don't think he'll be the same as he was in Ottawa.
That said - if Boston wants to be a top team and has cup aspirations, Korpisalo isn't getting them there. I just think they can start without Swayman if they need to.
In Ottawa: .898
The year after: .913
Korpisalo is streaky but he's had some decent numbers before, and Boston often gets the most out of goalies. I really don't think he'll be the same as he was in Ottawa.
That said - if Boston wants to be a top team and has cup aspirations, Korpisalo isn't getting them there. I just think they can start without Swayman if they need to.
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DiPietro had better numbers than Bussi did in the AHL last year. To say one guy is hardly AHL talent while the other is a borderline #3 is an interesting take
Bussi the AHL starter last two seasons.
6'4 vs 6'0.
Dipietro full time ECHL just two seasons ago. Back up last season AHL.
I know which I'd take in the NHL if desperate. Dipietro has not done much this preseason to change that, as questionable as Bussi has been.
ON3M4N
Ignores/60 = Elite
None of that refutes anything I said....
Last season for Providence
Bussi - 2.67 GAA / .913 SV% / 1 SO
DiPietro - 2.51 GAA / .918 SV% / 4 SO
A bad contract is still a bad contract. The last thing the NHL teams want is having to give high dollar contracts to goalies that do not deserve thus screwing everything else.
torniojaws
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Any NHL level goalie and they are set. Their system doesn't depend on the goalie.
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So you think Korpi and Bussi give equal results to Ullmark and Swayman?
If not, which NHL goalies are available days before camp they could replace Swayman with?
Suntouchable13
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F Swayman, man. If he wants too much money, F him. Boston will be just fine without him. Petty players, greedy players, make my blood boil. Oh they said “mean things” in an arbitration hearing, cry me a river. More teams should just make their RFAs sit out if they don’t want to fall in line.
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