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Boston should have never let Ullmark go without signing Swayman...he has them by the hair now.
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How to date yourself as a hockey fan...Dipietro is hardly AHL talent.
Bussi is disappointing but even he is borderline #3...
Maybe not, he needs to sign and if does not sign, he does not play and come December 1st and is not signed he has to sit out the year. He sits out the year he is no closer too free agency, and he loses millions of dollars.Boston should have never let Ullmark go without signing Swayman...he has them by the hair now.
And the Bruins miss the playoffs and Sweeny is fired. The new GM signs Swayman to an even bigger contract than what could have got him in camp this year.Maybe not, he needs to sign and if does not sign, he does not play and come December 1st and is not signed he has to sit out the year. He sits out the year he is no closer too free agency, and he loses millions of dollars.
I mean he is two seasons from Ufa regardless of if he plays or not. He's hitting Ufa based on age not based on years of service and not signing doesn't stop him from aging.Maybe not, he needs to sign and if does not sign, he does not play and come December 1st and is not signed he has to sit out the year. He sits out the year he is no closer too free agency, and he loses millions of dollars.
If that happens though then they can’t sign Zadorov or Lindholm iircBoston should have never let Ullmark go without signing Swayman...he has them by the hair now.
I don’t know why it keeps being brought up about Swayman missing the whole seasonAnd the Bruins miss the playoffs and Sweeny is fired. The new GM signs Swayman to an even bigger contract than what could have got him in camp this year.
Bruins will not miss the playoffs because they did not have Swayman. I think he is overvaluing himself, wanted him playing goal this year but you cannot pay him what he is looking for, time to move on.And the Bruins miss the playoffs and Sweeny is fired. The new GM signs Swayman to an even bigger contract than what could have got him in camp this year.
And the Bruins miss the playoffs and Sweeny is fired. The new GM signs Swayman to an even bigger contract than what could have got him in camp this year.
Let’s say the Bruins offer 8 mil x six years right now. Swayman sits out the year. That costs him 8 mil. Bruins miss the playoffs and fire Sweeny. The new GM signs Swayman to 10 mil x 8 years. That’s more than 30 million added to Swsyman’s contract. He gets the eight mil sacrificed this year back and a lot more.That isn't going to happen either. Swayman isn't gonna get a much bigger contract if he hold out.
i think cossa is ready to start back up duty in detroit. i'd be willing to trade lyon or husso 50% retained, whichever boston values more. i bet that would light a fire under swayman's ass, to see sweeney making plans to play out the year without himSo you think Korpi and Bussi give equal results to Ullmark and Swayman?
If not, which NHL goalies are available days before camp they could replace Swayman with?
And then, we wake up and none of this happenedLet’s say the Bruins offer 8 mil x six years right now. Swayman sits out the year. That costs him 8 mil. Bruins miss the playoffs and fire Sweeny. The new GM signs Swayman to 10 mil x 8 years. That’s more than 30 million added to Swsyman’s contract. He gets the eight mil sacrificed this year back and a lot more.
Let’s say the Bruins offer 8 mil x six years right now. Swayman sits out the year. That costs him 8 mil. Bruins miss the playoffs and fire Sweeny. The new GM signs Swayman to 10 mil x 8 years. That’s more than 30 million added to Swsyman’s contract. He gets the eight mil sacrificed this year back and a lot more.
Boston should have never let Ullmark go without signing Swayman...he has them by the hair now.
It's a poor take and his reasoning is height. Let it play out. "He was in the ECHL 2 years ago"DiPietro had better numbers than Bussi did in the AHL last year. To say one guy is hardly AHL talent while the other is a borderline #3 is an interesting take
Yeah, I mean look at Florida. What have they won?Call me crazy... but I feel like the B's are in a bit of an impossible position here.
Paying goalies the big bucks is fraught with issues. They can get hurt, they can suffer from poor play, and honestly, more importantly, to win a Stanley Cup, you have to go through 4 teams -- at least one of which will have a goalie making $5-6m less performing at the same level.
No GM really wants to say "I'm building a team to win in 3-4 years" when they've got a team as good as the B's are right now.... which is essentially what you're saying when you give a young player 8-years.... "I'm overpaying you now, in hopes that as the cap rises and you continue to improve, you'll be underpaid in the back half".
Swayman apparently wants $9.5 x 8... the B's I'd imagine want to be at $6m x 4 or 5. If you imagine that he's a $13-14m goalie in 4-5 years... it's essentially the same money. Considering where the B's are at as a franchise right now, $6m x5 is an unquestionably better idea.
It's not a "non-belief" in Jeremy Swayman, simply an identification that goaltending is voodoo, and the team is in a position to win now.
Clearly you have not seen korpisalo. If Boston is forced to rely on the Korpisalo that was in Ottawa last year for say 50 games, you're looking at possibly as much as a 50 goal differential in those 50 games. Between the two guys you had stopping way more than average goaltending and Korpisalo giving up way more than average, stats say that is roughly what you're looking at. And ya that alone might cook Boston's chances.Bruins will not miss the playoffs because they did not have Swayman. I think he is overvaluing himself, wanted him playing goal this year but you cannot pay him what he is looking for, time to move on.
The B’s are dumb not to sign Swayman. He was excellent in the playoffs last season and there are no FA goalies who can replace him in the lineup. Trading for a replacement will cost you a top 6 player. Jacob’s is just such an a….ole.Call me crazy... but I feel like the B's are in a bit of an impossible position here.
Paying goalies the big bucks is fraught with issues. They can get hurt, they can suffer from poor play, and honestly, more importantly, to win a Stanley Cup, you have to go through 4 teams -- at least one of which will have a goalie making $5-6m less performing at the same level.
No GM really wants to say "I'm building a team to win in 3-4 years" when they've got a team as good as the B's are right now.... which is essentially what you're saying when you give a young player 8-years.... "I'm overpaying you now, in hopes that as the cap rises and you continue to improve, you'll be underpaid in the back half".
Swayman apparently wants $9.5 x 8... the B's I'd imagine want to be at $6m x 4 or 5. If you imagine that he's a $13-14m goalie in 4-5 years... it's essentially the same money. Considering where the B's are at as a franchise right now, $6m x5 is an unquestionably better idea.
It's not a "non-belief" in Jeremy Swayman, simply an identification that goaltending is voodoo, and the team is in a position to win now.
It's crazy isn't it....anyway they made their bed . If they start looking at trades wonder if they kick tires on someone like Gibson, he's got a connection to Lindholm.Boston should have never let Ullmark go without signing Swayman...he has them by the hair now.
Geekie ! that is a head scratcher, and Zegras is not a Bruin.It's crazy isn't it....anyway they made their bed . If they start looking at trades wonder if they kick tires on someone like Gibson, he's got a connection to Lindholm.
Gibson and Zegras for Swayman and salary (geekie?)
Could Swayman not play in Europe? Bruins miss the playoffs imo without him. Huge leverage come summer 2025. Looks like Shesterkin might be in the 12 per range. Might be the best move for Swayman to hold out for 10 x 8? 80 million next summer is a lot better than 50 now.He's not getting 10m at all especially not after missing an entire year. That's not how things work. You don't get paid even more if you do nothing for a entire year. You get less.
They might be wise to play hardball with Swayman and not budge.Just bite the bullet. Bruins figured they had a team still influenced by the old core and they’d all wanna sign friendly contracts.