Speculation: The Bruins and Jeremy Swayman are far apart in contract term (length) and dollar amount.

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vocks10

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Dipietro is hardly AHL talent.
Bussi is disappointing but even he is borderline #3...
How to date yourself as a hockey fan...

Jump to page 38 about a debate about Swayman and his contract talks with Boston. See the name Dipietro and automatically jump to the conclusion a poster trying to point out the risk of signing a younger goalie to long term big money (before reading the entire post).

Ummm nope, different Dipietro... I'm not the only one who had this though process, right, RIGHT?!?
 
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hockeyguy0022

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I don't really see the danger here, does anyone say "he's not an NHL goalie" no, he's at worst, an average goalie. He isn't 28/29 or anything.

So he underperforms and you trade him in 2-4 years with a small bit of retention, or not. (cap will also be up by that time)

starter number 1 quality goalies are at a premium, and we haven't seen much in the pipelines anywhere. So I dont' get it.

8X8 Seems like a no brainer. NMC ONLY or 20 team NTC for 2-3 years if that's what he's asking.

Seems like next no risk here, aside from cap considerations.
 

Hookslide

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Boston should have never let Ullmark go without signing Swayman...he has them by the hair now.
Maybe not, he needs to sign and if does not sign, he does not play and come December 1st and is not signed he has to sit out the year. He sits out the year he is no closer too free agency, and he loses millions of dollars.
 

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Maybe not, he needs to sign and if does not sign, he does not play and come December 1st and is not signed he has to sit out the year. He sits out the year he is no closer too free agency, and he loses millions of dollars.
And the Bruins miss the playoffs and Sweeny is fired. The new GM signs Swayman to an even bigger contract than what could have got him in camp this year.
 
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Comely

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Maybe not, he needs to sign and if does not sign, he does not play and come December 1st and is not signed he has to sit out the year. He sits out the year he is no closer too free agency, and he loses millions of dollars.
I mean he is two seasons from Ufa regardless of if he plays or not. He's hitting Ufa based on age not based on years of service and not signing doesn't stop him from aging.
 

nbwingsfan

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Boston should have never let Ullmark go without signing Swayman...he has them by the hair now.
If that happens though then they can’t sign Zadorov or Lindholm iirc

So they’re in a tough spot either way

And the Bruins miss the playoffs and Sweeny is fired. The new GM signs Swayman to an even bigger contract than what could have got him in camp this year.
I don’t know why it keeps being brought up about Swayman missing the whole season

It simply doesn’t happen
 
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Hookslide

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And the Bruins miss the playoffs and Sweeny is fired. The new GM signs Swayman to an even bigger contract than what could have got him in camp this year.
Bruins will not miss the playoffs because they did not have Swayman. I think he is overvaluing himself, wanted him playing goal this year but you cannot pay him what he is looking for, time to move on.
 

gstommylee

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And the Bruins miss the playoffs and Sweeny is fired. The new GM signs Swayman to an even bigger contract than what could have got him in camp this year.

That isn't going to happen either. Swayman isn't gonna get a much bigger contract if he hold out.
 

Fatass

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That isn't going to happen either. Swayman isn't gonna get a much bigger contract if he hold out.
Let’s say the Bruins offer 8 mil x six years right now. Swayman sits out the year. That costs him 8 mil. Bruins miss the playoffs and fire Sweeny. The new GM signs Swayman to 10 mil x 8 years. That’s more than 30 million added to Swsyman’s contract. He gets the eight mil sacrificed this year back and a lot more.
 

AlwaysSunnyInDetroit

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So you think Korpi and Bussi give equal results to Ullmark and Swayman?

If not, which NHL goalies are available days before camp they could replace Swayman with?
i think cossa is ready to start back up duty in detroit. i'd be willing to trade lyon or husso 50% retained, whichever boston values more. i bet that would light a fire under swayman's ass, to see sweeney making plans to play out the year without him
 

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Let’s say the Bruins offer 8 mil x six years right now. Swayman sits out the year. That costs him 8 mil. Bruins miss the playoffs and fire Sweeny. The new GM signs Swayman to 10 mil x 8 years. That’s more than 30 million added to Swsyman’s contract. He gets the eight mil sacrificed this year back and a lot more.
And then, we wake up and none of this happened
 

gstommylee

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Let’s say the Bruins offer 8 mil x six years right now. Swayman sits out the year. That costs him 8 mil. Bruins miss the playoffs and fire Sweeny. The new GM signs Swayman to 10 mil x 8 years. That’s more than 30 million added to Swsyman’s contract. He gets the eight mil sacrificed this year back and a lot more.

He's not getting 10m at all especially not after missing an entire year. That's not how things work. You don't get paid even more if you do nothing for a entire year. You get less.
 

Reality Czech

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Boston should have never let Ullmark go without signing Swayman...he has them by the hair now.

As Friedman pointed out, they wanted to trade Ullmark before he submitted his new no trade list. If they had waited, it's possible the trade options would have got smaller.
 

HairyKneel

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DiPietro had better numbers than Bussi did in the AHL last year. To say one guy is hardly AHL talent while the other is a borderline #3 is an interesting take
It's a poor take and his reasoning is height. Let it play out. "He was in the ECHL 2 years ago"

Goalies are voodoo. Swayman has all the leverage but why bury your own prospects in pre season? The games are a scramble with there sometimes being only 5 or 6 legit players on each team. I hope Mikey D makes it. He's 6 feet but he's a battler and has had a tough go in life. Boston might have a player here and the RH Swede D may play. Studnicka was a wet fart for Vancouver. Stop sending us your garbage. Loui Ericsson was a travesty. I'm hoping Heinen, Debrusk and Forbort turn out. We gave you Cam ffs.
 

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