OT: The Avalounge but every time someone posts the quality declines
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My company is "unlimited" with the unwritten expectation it hovers around 3 weeks. If that helps your review.
The last time I offered a chick a compliment she went all Feminazi on me telling me how I only view women as sex objects and only want her body instead of her personality.
I lied it didn't happen to me, it happened to one of my friends.
I also lied, I never seen a hot feminist.
UncleRisto
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Went to see Tomb Raider.
Another spoiler.
Loved how the "curse" or whatever in the tomb wasn't a CGI evil spirit.
Another spoiler.
Alicia's a fox.
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Girl I'm going out with again tomorrow is somewhere between craving and desiring them, hard to tell which yet.
This feminist movement is a pain as a guy. I'm all about supporting women, as well as anyone else. But just like anything else it needs to be done in moderation. No reason to flaunt how guys put you down in the workplace or how compliments or pet names are sexist. Seems like there's nothing we can do right sometimes.
It's gone so overboard I almost got in trouble at work because a girl complained I made her uncomfortable by booking a car service to take us to the airport together instead of driving. It was international... Who wants to drive when coming back from overseas. And that's all it took to acuse me.
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You chauvinistic pig... But for real, how would you get in trouble for that? Like who in management is going to think, wow we really need to reprimand him for this.
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It was an all women management team. Only reason I even found out was because one of the women had worked with me for years and knew better, sticking up for me.
I did learn one thing, just because I think I'm doing something nice doesn't make it true to someone else. Best just to ask.
There’s definitely a flip side to the whole politically correct movement - we’ve learned to live in such a damn bubble within ourselves the last 20 years that we just assume everyone is “out to get us” instead of appreciating each other, even if some people have different means of showing affection. It’s sad.
At least in American society we’ve become more and more comfortable with the notion that we don’t need others very much in our lives and we can just solo everything. Some older people I’ve talked to have hit it spot on - they’ve told me there’s going to be a time and a place where as a society we are going to have to depend on one another for survival. And they’ve got concerns on how we’re going to be able to handle that situation. Totally agree with them. Once we’re no longer able to support and care for each other no matter the background, political affiliation, race, etc - we become so much weaker.
At least in American society we’ve become more and more comfortable with the notion that we don’t need others very much in our lives and we can just solo everything. Some older people I’ve talked to have hit it spot on - they’ve told me there’s going to be a time and a place where as a society we are going to have to depend on one another for survival. And they’ve got concerns on how we’re going to be able to handle that situation. Totally agree with them. Once we’re no longer able to support and care for each other no matter the background, political affiliation, race, etc - we become so much weaker.
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No matter what guys do or don't do nowadays it can be labeled as somehow being sexist. It'd be different in a work setting, or in a way that could seriously jeopardize my job or something in my life, but I feel like being called sexist, racist, or anything like that has lost a lot of it's oomph. I have two friends who are pretty big feminists, and in the past they've said how something I did was sexist and before I would take it more to heart, but now it's pretty much out one ear out the other because being called that is just so overused now that it's lost power.
My post was totally a joke, but I can't believe that actually happened to you. Sorry bud.
I hate that everyone has to be a “group” fighting for their rights - feminists, blacks, whites, LGBT, etc.. It’s like we’re all in damn high school cliques and attack each other. Nobody’s more important than any other “group” - if we all just treat each other like humans that’s all that matters!
I get overly sensitive on this type of stuff - but what happened to you Lonewolfe.....that stuff kinda pisses me off.
I get overly sensitive on this type of stuff - but what happened to you Lonewolfe.....that stuff kinda pisses me off.
Foppberg
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It really is toxic and ironically enough, sexist/racist. But since it's against white people or men it's okay. I do accept the idea that there is a certain level of privilege for being a man, or being white, but literally every group has certain social advantages and disadvantages.
UncleRisto
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The level of privilege for being both at once is HIGH. But that doesn't mean the clique activities aren't counterproductive.
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UncleRisto
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It's not explicit like it has been, but it's there.
Let's say I wouldn't swap if given the chance.
That’s an interesting question - if you’d swap
I think there’s a lot of opportunity for minorities - they are out there in terms of scholarships etc.. But once you get into the workforce it’s sometimes not equal. But then again in some companies/industries there’s explicit favoritism towards minorities. In government contracts they sometimes track how much a company does business with minority, woman, or veteran owned companies. I spent 10 years at an employer where we kept a minority supplier on board forever just to meet the government requirement. The bad thing is that this supplier was a consistently low performer but they were about our only option to meet standards. It became a little rediculous at times.
I think there’s a lot of opportunity for minorities - they are out there in terms of scholarships etc.. But once you get into the workforce it’s sometimes not equal. But then again in some companies/industries there’s explicit favoritism towards minorities. In government contracts they sometimes track how much a company does business with minority, woman, or veteran owned companies. I spent 10 years at an employer where we kept a minority supplier on board forever just to meet the government requirement. The bad thing is that this supplier was a consistently low performer but they were about our only option to meet standards. It became a little rediculous at times.
Foppberg
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Yeah I don't deny that a white guy probably has more 'perks' than any other group, but that's shrinking more and more. The biggest thing though is how any problem a guy might have is shunned and basically ignored, but if you're a women or person of colour it's taken very seriously. Suicide, drop out rates, depression are all major problems with young men but it's never talked about. A shitty double standard.
With all the anti-male and white rhetoric currently going on the absolute worst thing you can be right now is a white male.
UncleRisto
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LOL, you know that's not true.
Then how do you know that the opposite is true in today's day and age? White males are getting targeted in medical and other graduate school applications to increase campus diversity.
Hell, even Asians are getting knocked off points from the MCAT so schools can justify taking in less intelligent students just because those students are somehow Latino or Black. E: That doesn't mean all Black or Latino students are less qualified in becoming doctors, but med committees are targeting certain people due to backgrounds instead of the needed criteria. You want the best doctors in any country, I could careless if majority of the best doctors happened to be from one race either that be White or Hispanic.
How to Get into Medical School If You’re White or Asian
So now you're at a disadvantage for being white to get into medical schools even if you're a superior candidate.
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UncleRisto
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Foppberg
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That's not surprising at all, but also a very shallow example. I'd rather see an age breakdown of those statistics before giving them too much credit.
UncleRisto
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That's also true and it should be taken into account.
Then again, I'm studying in a female dominated field, and I fully expect quick employment, and to move up the ladder faster. Ambition is a big factor, but the social structure affords me the ambition.
So now we're debating men versus women now yes? Because those statistics are not only/just "white men" in the first one by the way.
Your first graph can be countered with this...
According to the 2015 American Time Use Survey by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
...not only that, but this...
So if you work the same job and the same hours as a women, you're more than likely to earn higher pay than a man. The problem why the discrepancy of F500 companies seem widely strange is because majority of women don't work full hour jobs or beyond the 40 per hour work week. As for your second graphic, well duh dude, there are statistically more white people in NA and Europe than there are of different races. Of course more white men and women will have more jobs than minorities. They're called minorities for a reason, and in the dictionary by Marriam-Websiter, the definition of it is "the smaller in number of two groups constituting a whole". To conclude, the second graphic does nothing to convince me that white privilege is a determining factor. I actually provided you factual evidence that it is a CENTRAL factor against white people when it comes to getting into medical school. I am not arguing that white privilege doesn't exist, it absolutely did, but to the degree people think it is in modern life I am not buying it. This is a good debate though, really enjoying it.
Your first graph can be countered with this...
According to the 2015 American Time Use Survey by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics
...not only that, but this...
So if you work the same job and the same hours as a women, you're more than likely to earn higher pay than a man. The problem why the discrepancy of F500 companies seem widely strange is because majority of women don't work full hour jobs or beyond the 40 per hour work week. As for your second graphic, well duh dude, there are statistically more white people in NA and Europe than there are of different races. Of course more white men and women will have more jobs than minorities. They're called minorities for a reason, and in the dictionary by Marriam-Websiter, the definition of it is "the smaller in number of two groups constituting a whole". To conclude, the second graphic does nothing to convince me that white privilege is a determining factor. I actually provided you factual evidence that it is a CENTRAL factor against white people when it comes to getting into medical school. I am not arguing that white privilege doesn't exist, it absolutely did, but to the degree people think it is in modern life I am not buying it. This is a good debate though, really enjoying it.
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