Speculation: The Athletic-“So, it’s easy to imagine a scenario in which the Ducks move on from Zegras..."

[pth2]

Any trade will happen after the lottery - at the draft even. Ducks would need to be very high on 2 players in that range as they have their own pick that is likely to be top 5 as well. Ducks fans correct me if I'm wrong but what you need most are probably D-men, given that they take longer to develop usually trading for one that is a 2021-2023 draft pick has some merits. If I am the Ducks I would do Zegras- Reinbacher in an instant but if I am Montreal I don't touch that.

I doubt there is a trade here between these 2.

Similar thinking here, only I think they go for a RD drafted in 2016 or so, and who they feel warrants a long-term deal, and whose current team is looking at a rebuild/retool.

 

[Gliff]

It's very hard to know what is real and what isn't. Reporters make up things for clicks, and I've suggested before Zegras is a nice name to throw out there because Anaheim isn't a big media market, but Zegras is well-known around the league because of his flashier play, so mentioning him means clicks and little pushback. The problem is though, Anaheim truly could be looking at moving depth at C, and he has had contract issues, so it's perfectly possible for Anaheim to be looking at options, without being the ones pro-actively calling around

I think we can assume a reporter wouldnt make up that someone ISNT available considering that does the exact opposite of generating clicks with future stories...

 

[Jozay]

He's so ass defensively I can see why they would think about moving on.

 

[John Mandalorian]

Top media members like the idiot who confidently said John Gibson was never going to play another game for the Anaheim Ducks?

It's pretty apparent that Hughes is using Seravelli to get his spin out there. So it's hard to blame Habs fans for thinking this way.

But it's also a little strange to step back and look at Seravelli recently calling Kekalainen and Grier the two worst GMs in the NHL. Why? Why is Hughes exempt from this? The Habs have been drafting around the same spot as the Blue Jackets and Sharks in reecent years.

It's apparent that Grier and Kekalainen weren't sharing information with Seravelli the way Hughes does. And this was Grier's and Kekalainen's punishment for not playing ball.

Also, worth noting, Seravelli's audience is Canadian. In terms of the NHL, this isn't something small. But it is a little like saying someone is "world famous in Liechtenstein" in that 70% of the league is based in the US. For all anyone knows, Grier and Kekalainen may not be aware of or care about Seravelli's comments. They may not be a part of the Canadian media ecosystem.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

He's so ass defensively I can see why they would think about moving on.

It’s def not as bad as it’s made out to be, but people have to find something to run with

 

[Gliff]

He's so ass defensively I can see why they would think about moving on.

He really isnt.

 

[Chose]

It's pretty apparent that Hughes is using Seravelli to get his spin out there. So it's hard to blame Habs fans for thinking this way.

But it's also a little strange to step back and look at Seravelli recently calling Kekalainen and Grier the two worst GMs in the NHL. Why? Why is Hughes exempt from this? The Habs have been drafting around the same spot as the Blue Jackets and Sharks in reecent years.

It's apparent that Grier and Kekalainen weren't sharing information with Seravelli the way Hughes does. And this was Grier's and Kekalainen's punishment for not playing ball.

Also, worth noting, Seravelli's audience is Canadian. In terms of the NHL, this isn't something small. But it is a little like saying someone is "world famous in Liechtenstein" in that 70% of the league is based in the US. For all anyone knows, Grier and Kekalainen may not be aware of or care about Seravelli's comments. They may not be a part of the Canadian media ecosystem.

That feels like a reach, Kekalainen did not achieve much, and his boss also thought he wasn't good enough for the job.

And Hugues did start his rebuild only two years ago, and accomplished a lot. He is usually celebrated. Why would he be named in the worst GMs ?! Nobody but you reaching thinks that.

 

[viceroy]

Lol that's a weird brag, but ok...
and yes we do, now excuse me while I go tell my family about that, they are going to be so proud of me. Life goal accomplished.

So glad that your ONLINE FORUM has so many posts. Such a flex!

What a bizarre comment. I’m sure half of those posts

in that 100 page thread are borderline Pulitzer Prize winning commentary.

Touched a nerve I guess. Not a flex, we just get a lot of traffic sunshine. That's why we shouldn't get called over any flake comments. We have a lot of fans, Greater Montreal has over 4 million in population. We don't have an NFL team, an NBA team or an MLB team. All us Montreal sports fans basically just have the Habs.

You guys in Anaheim/LA have tons of sports options. Everyone out here just throws their manic fandom on the Canadiens. You guys think crapping on us because of posts on a Zegras thread... If Dreger posted about the Habs trying to trade for Morgan Frost this morning on 690 there'd be 10 pages before nightfall.

 

[John Mandalorian]

That feels like a reach, Kekalainen did not achieve much, and his boss also thought he wasn't good enough for the job.

And Hugues did start his rebuild only two years ago, and accomplished a lot. He is usually celebrated. Why would he be named in the worst GMs ?! Nobody but you reaching thinks that.

You're talking about the reputation of Hughes...and who helps shape that?

Kekalainen's time had run its course. There was some good and some bad. As a GM in a less than desirable NHL market, he took some chances and that likely led to his undoing.

His body of work is much greatet than Hughes. But you have to look at the positives as well as the negatives. Hughes has only GMed a bottom dwelling team - so far. That might change but what can you point to otherwise?

 

[FiveTacos]

He really isnt.

If they' really were giving up on a young talented C because of not being an ace defensively, then McTavish should be on the block too, as he's been worse defensively than Zegras. That's how stupid that is.

 

[Rec T]

If they' really were giving up on a young talented C because of not being an ace defensively, then McTavish should be on the block too, as he's been worse defensively than Zegras. That's how stupid that is.

Careful, you might start a rumor that MacT has run his course in Anaheim & is available for 12 used jock straps & 4 duffle bags of broken sticks... What do you think, 10 pages by the weekend?

 

[LuGBuG]

Habs aren't moving 7th overall for Zegras. Makes no sense. They will get a similar player at 7 who is 5 years younger and 6 million a year cheaper.

Deal based around Jets pick.

In the last decade players under 22 with at least 100 games played points per game Zegras ranks 16th. Also check the players ahead of him. Quite a list. Good luck with that player being similar.

 

[Ncit3]

I know he's not a RHD, but what about Byram for Zegras as a starting point? I know the Avs would likely have to add, but what about a starting framework. Feel like Zegras would be exactly what the Avs need and Byram could be a great developmental piece for Anaheim. Considering when he's not been weighed down by anchors like RyJo, he's been fantastic.

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

It seems you logged in and replied with the wrong account

Anybody who decides to collect clicks by saying a GM is "listening" on a player is saying absolutely nothing. Every GM will listen when called. That's their job. That's not "insider" information. He can make that statement anytime, anywhere about any player and it doesn't mean the player is in play. But some people aren't smart enough to see that.

He's garbage and heading to the Eklund level with this kind of crap.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I know he's not a RHD, but what about Byram for Zegras as a starting point? I know the Avs would likely have to add, but what about a starting framework. Feel like Zegras would be exactly what the Avs need and Byram could be a great developmental piece for Anaheim. Considering when he's not been weighed down by anchors like RyJo, he's been fantastic.

Personally not a big fan of byram as a base, I think it would have to end up a 3way deal where the 3rd team wants byram

We just have so many good young lhd, we’re almost getting the point where we have to ship them out for other pieces

 

[Spring in Fialta]

Touched a nerve I guess. Not a flex, we just get a lot of traffic sunshine. That's why we shouldn't get called over any flake comments. We have a lot of fans, Greater Montreal has over 4 million in population. We don't have an NFL team, an NBA team or an MLB team. All us Montreal sports fans basically just have the Habs.

You guys in Anaheim/LA have tons of sports options. Everyone out here just throws their manic fandom on the Canadiens. You guys think crapping on us because of posts on a Zegras thread... If Dreger posted about the Habs trying to trade for Morgan Frost this morning on 690 there'd be 10 pages before nightfall.

I'm a Habs fan and Habs fans 1000 percent deserve to be bashed in this thread. The Zegras thread on our board is weird and stupid.

 

[anezthes]

I know he's not a RHD, but what about Byram for Zegras as a starting point?

Nope.

 

[FiveTacos]

Personally not a big fan of byram as a base, I think it would have to end up a 3way deal where the 3rd team wants byram

We just have so many good young lhd, we’re almost getting the point where we have to ship them out for other pieces

And for that matter, protected firsts aren't that enticing either. The Ducks not only have a deep system, they have like 6 picks in the first 3 rounds this year. You can get to a point where you just have too many to develop properly.

 

[Slats432]

I read someone talking about offering a pick in the 8-12 range for him.

If you use Bob McKenzie's list, too much? not enough?

8		Konsta Helenius (C/RW)	Jukurit	Liiga	44	13	20	33	6
9		Zayne Parekh (D)	Saginaw Spirit	OHL	52	27	52	79	44
10		Berkly Catton (F)	Spokane Chiefs	WHL	54	41	48	89	41
11		Trevor Connelly (LW)	Tri-City Storm	USHL	36	20	32	52	40
12		Carter Yakemchuk (D)	Calgary Hitmen	WHL	53	26	32	58	103
13		Zeev Buium (D)	Univ. of Denver	NCAA	28	8	29	37	16

 

[LuGBuG]

I read someone talking about offering a pick in the 8-12 range for him.

If you use Bob McKenzie's list, too much? not enough?

8		Konsta Helenius (C/RW)	Jukurit	Liiga	44	13	20	33	6
9		Zayne Parekh (D)	Saginaw Spirit	OHL	52	27	52	79	44
10		Berkly Catton (F)	Spokane Chiefs	WHL	54	41	48	89	41
11		Trevor Connelly (LW)	Tri-City Storm	USHL	36	20	32	52	40
12		Carter Yakemchuk (D)	Calgary Hitmen	WHL	53	26	32	58	103
13		Zeev Buium (D)	Univ. of Denver	NCAA	28	8	29	37	16

Why would we take a pick in that range for Trevor Zegras just to hope we get Trevor Zegras

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I read someone talking about offering a pick in the 8-12 range for him.

If you use Bob McKenzie's list, too much? not enough?

8		Konsta Helenius (C/RW)	Jukurit	Liiga	44	13	20	33	6
9		Zayne Parekh (D)	Saginaw Spirit	OHL	52	27	52	79	44
10		Berkly Catton (F)	Spokane Chiefs	WHL	54	41	48	89	41
11		Trevor Connelly (LW)	Tri-City Storm	USHL	36	20	32	52	40
12		Carter Yakemchuk (D)	Calgary Hitmen	WHL	53	26	32	58	103
13		Zeev Buium (D)	Univ. of Denver	NCAA	28	8	29	37	16

I think there would have to be an add from the team on top of that. While I think some of those guys could be pretty solid…. You’re still hoping best case scenario is zegras talent player, but taking all the risk.

 

[Slats432]

Why would we take a pick in that range for Trevor Zegras just to hope we get Trevor Zegras

Not my idea, read it as a proposal somewhere. I don't know why Anaheim does anything, like paying Killorn $6.25M for the next four years, or strong arming guys in negotiations. Not my circus, not my monkey.

 

[LuGBuG]

That's too much. I can see Jets pick. Plus Savard who they can flip for another first. That's two firsts, it's enough.

No it’s not. Do some research.

He’s tied for 3rd from his draft in points, 6 points behind 2nd while playing the 9th most games.

16th in ppg for players under 22 in the past decade with pretty much all studs ahead of him.

Why would we ever deal him for a late first and a maybe first. Give me one reason that actually makes sense and backed up with any sort of facts or logic. Just one reason. I’m waiting.

 

[LuGBuG]

Not my idea, read it as a proposal somewhere. I don't know why Anaheim does anything, like paying Killorn $6.25M for the next four years, or strong arming guys in negotiations. Not my circus, not my monkey.

A back to back 25 goal scorer that has won multiple Cups for a young team to learn from that will have zero negative impact from that cap hit. That contract is not a big deal at all and at least a million of it is just for help in the room.

If they were anywhere even remotely close to the cap then yeah it might be tough but it doesn’t matter in the slightest.

 

[ole ole]

In a vacuum, it’s prob at least in discussion.

i think the protection needs to be more favorable to Anaheim(maybe top 3 protection)…. This draft isn’t outstanding, and most of what you’ll get after 3 would be happy to get a zegras quality player in.

oilers pick is okay, not really a need but an okay piece to have

I could see us liking Kovacevic and barron as a piece coming back, gives us more RHD depth which is a need.


Depending on where the main piece(montreal pick) lands, I’d say Montreal would need to add a young forward or prospect forward.

Granted I don’t think zegras is realistically available and I don’t think we should move him. Other part is we already have a high pick this year to get what we’d want in the draft, so unless we have 2 guys we want in the top 10 idk how much value that 1st has in a zegras deal

Our pick could just as easily be the 5th OA. Throwing in another 1st plus Kovacevic and Barron and talk of Beck for Zegras. I would pass. Not counting we lose Savard and a 3rd to boot on top of that.
Count me out.