Speculation: The Athletic-“So, it’s easy to imagine a scenario in which the Ducks move on from Zegras..."

[Zegs2sendhelp]

So your asking for an early 1st ,a later 1st , Kovacevic and Barron Another
young forward or prospect forward . The Habs are also losing Savard and a 3rd pick in the process all for Zegras.
Ya that's an easy pass,

sorry meant to say kovacevic or barron.

And I don’t care what your savard trade consist of, not Anaheim’s problem.

 

[ole ole]

sorry meant to say kovacevic or barron.

And I don’t care what your savard trade consist of, not Anaheim’s problem.

I'm not willing to trade the 5th OA plus another 1st plus Beck and one of Kovacevi or Barron. Not a chance in hell. You keep him for that price and i'll gladly roll the dice on that 5th keep the other 1st and keep the other players mentioned. WOW.

 

[MCB]

I'm not willing to trade the 5th OA plus another 1st plus Beck and one of Kovacevi or Barron. Not a chance in hell. You keep him for that price and i'll gladly roll the dice on that 5th keep the other 1st and keep the other players mentioned. WOW.

Great! Can we close the thread now??


Please... Think of the dead horses.

 

[HanSolo]

What? Ducks are listening on Zegras. It's all over the internet. You need to get with modern times!

According to TSN’s Pierre LeBrun, the Anaheim Ducks are listening to offers for Trevor Zegras & one of the 5 teams that have called them are the Habs.

And that translates into Ducks fans peddling him...how? Exactly?

Also listening to offers is the most say nothing statement. Unless you're talking about a McDavid, Makar, or a Bedard level player, it's GMs jobs to listen to any offer that would make their team better. It doesn't mean that Verbeek is trying to move him which is the common theory vomited up and down this thread.

 

[VivaLasVegas]

Zegras is yet another player who needs to demand the experimental non-approved surgery.

 

[ole ole]

Great! Can we close the thread now??


Please... Think of the dead horses.

I never started the thread. So ask that question to someone else.

 

[Doublechin]

I'd have a hard time giving up the Jets pick with Barron alone for Zegras, I do not value him at all, if I'm Hughes, I wouldn't even approach the ducks at all, he isn't an upgrade and will never be of help in a playoffs setting. Bottom line, that's what your building for, cap space for a floater when it matters best is horrendous

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I'd have a hard time giving up the Jets pick with Barron alone for Zegras, I do not value him at all, if I'm Hughes, I wouldn't even approach the ducks at all, he isn't an upgrade and will never be of help in a playoffs setting. Bottom line, that's what your building for, cap space for a floater when it matters best is horrendous

Terrible takes all over

 

[dracom]

I'd have a hard time giving up the Jets pick with Barron alone for Zegras, I do not value him at all, if I'm Hughes, I wouldn't even approach the ducks at all, he isn't an upgrade and will never be of help in a playoffs setting. Bottom line, that's what your building for, cap space for a floater when it matters best is horrendous

I do not understand how this opinion keeps being brought up. he's never had a chance to be in the playoffs but people already know what he would do in the playoffs? there's just zero evidence to this idea he can never be of help in the playoffs and yet people keep spouting it. actually insane

 

[HabzSauce]

This is gonna be the new PLD 2.0 thread isn't it. I'm down lol

What would ANA even want? Prospects, roster players, draft picks?

The only realistic pieces of value that I see Hughes ready to offer are Barron and WPG 1st. That's not enough for Zegras, we'd have to add.

If ducks are after RD we also have Mailloux and I'm sure they'd be interested - but I hope he's not for sale.

We also have our MTL 1st which I also hope is off the table. Only other guys of value I can think of besides that are newhook and Roy. And not sure if that moves the needle either.

I think a better avenue to go is involve a 3rd team similar to what we did with Dach/Romanov trade. If ducks want what we don't have/Aren't willing to give up, I can see Hughes getting creative and finding that desired asset via a different team and then using it to get Zegras. Whatever that may be

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I do not understand how this opinion keeps being brought up. he's never had a chance to be in the playoffs but people already know what he would do in the playoffs? there's just zero evidence to this idea he can never be of help in the playoffs and yet people keep spouting it. actually insane

Everyone knows only 4th line grinder succeed in the playoffs

This is gonna be the new PLD 2.0 thread isn't it. I'm down lol

What would ANA even want? Prospects, roster players, draft picks?

The only realistic pieces of value that I see Hughes ready to offer are Barron and WPG 1st. That's not enough for Zegras, we'd have to add.

If ducks are after RD we also have Mailloux and I'm sure they'd be interested - but I hope he's not for sale.

We also have our MTL 1st which I also hope is off the table. Only other guys of value I can think of besides that are newhook and Roy. And not sure if that moves the needle either.

I think a better avenue to go is involve a 3rd team similar to what we did with Dach/Romanov trade. If ducks want what we don't have/Aren't willing to give up, I can see Hughes getting creative and finding that desired asset via a different team and then using it to get Zegras

I think the bigger issue is a quantity for quality trade doesn’t make a ton of sense for Anaheim, we have quantity…. But lack quality…. So there would need to be a premium asset that makes it worth moving him .

 

[emptynetter3]

I do not understand how this opinion keeps being brought up. he's never had a chance to be in the playoffs but people already know what he would do in the playoffs? there's just zero evidence to this idea he can never be of help in the playoffs and yet people keep spouting it. actually insane

the closest thing we have is the WJC, where I recall a "best canadian team ever" (though many were and will back track on that now), and zegras not only called his shot but delivered on it.....i will ask this because i believe they are similar players, does chicago win the cups without patty kane?

 

[ole ole]

the closest thing we have is the WJC, where I recall a "best canadian team ever" (though many were and will back track on that now), and zegras not only called his shot but delivered on it.....i will ask this because i believe they are similar players, does chicago win the cups without patty kane?

Wait your comparing Zegras to Patty Kane. WOW.

 

[Rec T]

Terrible takes all over

Yes but think of the fun that can be had a couple of years from now when he's tearing up the place, including the playoffs when the Ducks get back to them, mining the thread for quotes that can be served with heaping mounds of crow...

 

[WhatTheDuck]

The only big games this kid has played in (WJC/Beanpot etc) he's risen to the occasion.

Again, for whatever reason and with no basis, people have just decided that this kid is of the lowest caliber of character and are making ridiculous assumptions based on that.

 

[Richiebottles]

The only big games this kid has played in (WJC/Beanpot etc) he's risen to the occasion.

Again, for whatever reason and with no basis, people have just decided that this kid is of the lowest caliber of character and are making ridiculous assumptions based on that.

McDavid could be available and half of our fans wouldn’t want him.

It really is like our base is allergic to talent and nice things, quite odd.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

McDavid could be available and half of our fans wouldn’t want him.

It really is like our base is allergic to talent and nice things, quite odd.

It’s alright to not want a player based on price, that’s reasonable.

The comments that are funny are

He’s not an upgrade…. When he’s clearly the same tier talent lvl of Suzuki/caufield…. And easily upgrade on dach/newhook and anyone else not named slaf.

You can’t win with him, based on what? Ducks are better with him on the ice, and he’s basically showed up to every big game he’s ever played… he can’t help anaheims building lottery contenders rather than playoff contenders.

He has character/personality issues, like what? Everyone on the team, in the arena, in the org love him? I find it funny that they question zegras personality but then talk up mallioux or even offer mallioux in a trade.

I’d rather keep Christian Dvorak…. Idk how to even respond to that take.

With respect I have read the thread on your boards and I will say there are plenty of rational posters…. Just the irrational ones that want everything for free tend to make it to the trade boards

 

[Guy Larose]

It’s alright to not want a player based on price, that’s reasonable.

The comments that are funny are

He’s not an upgrade…. When he’s clearly the same tier talent lvl of Suzuki/caufield…. And easily upgrade on dach/newhook and anyone else not named slaf.

You can’t win with him, based on what? Ducks are better with him on the ice, and he’s basically showed up to every big game he’s ever played… he can’t help anaheims building lottery contenders rather than playoff contenders.

He has character/personality issues, like what? Everyone on the team, in the arena, in the org love him? I find it funny that they question zegras personality but then talk up mallioux or even offer mallioux in a trade.

I’d rather keep Christian Dvorak…. Idk how to even respond to that take.

With respect I have read the thread on your boards and I will say there are plenty of rational posters…. Just the irrational ones that want everything for free tend to make it to the trade boards

I like your posts. You're not the typical "bash players from other teams" type, which is refreshing on this board.

 

[Peasy]

Zegras will shut up the haters just like Nylander has done over his career. It was the exact same shit with him, and he was constantly lambasted for stuff that was not true about his character.

 

[viceroy]

I'm a Habs fan and Habs fans 1000 percent deserve to be bashed in this thread. The Zegras thread on our board is weird and stupid.

There's always some Habs fans prostrating themselves on the Main Boards. Just like the Habs fans that agreed with the Main Boards' vox populi that we'd be lucky to get a conditional 2nd for Monahan on that trainwreck of a thread.

Look I agree we have our flakes, Slafy anyone? But in this respect I think it's reasonable that most of us are unwilling to give more than WPG's 1st plus a decent prospect. I also understand that ANA wants the equivalent of 3 1sts if they're willing to trade him at all. Also I saw rumours recently that there were 4-5 teams interested in Zegras. 4 to 5 teams that's it, for a young guy with 2 60+ pts seasons. I think most league GM's think the kid's overrated as well.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

There's always some Habs fans prostrating themselves on the Main Boards. Just like the Habs fans that agreed with the Main Boards' vox populi that we'd be lucky to get a conditional 2nd for Monahan on that trainwreck of a thread.

Look I agree we have our flakes, Slafy anyone? But in this respect I think it's reasonable that most of us are unwilling to give more than WPG's 1st plus a decent prospect. I also understand that ANA wants the equivalent of 3 1sts if they're willing to trade him at all. Also I saw rumours recently that there were 4-5 teams interested in Zegras. 4 to 5 teams that's it, for a young guy with 2 60+ pts seasons. I think most league GM's think the kid's overrated as well.

I think the comment was “4-5 teams that asked about zegras”… and from the same guys that had no heads up on the drysdale trade, and said gibson would never play another game in Anaheim 3 years ago.

If zegras was openly available that # is up higher, other issue is it’s the middle of the season and most teams don’t have room to add 5+ mil, and ducks wouldn’t retain on that contract. Offseason would be a different story, and when a trade like this was more likely to occur.

The drysdale trade happened because PV had the opportunity to get a player he feels he can build around…. That situation could happen with zegras but Winnipeg 1st and decent prospect… doesn’t cover that

It’s okay to just say you don’t think zegras is worth the trade assets it’ll cost, or not the right fit…. If jets 1st and decent prospect is the best the habs, then it’s unlikely they are really in the conversation

 

[WhatTheDuck]

I like your posts. You're not the typical "bash players from other teams" type, which is refreshing on this board.

We don't see eye to eye on every topic but 100% one of the quality posters around here.

 

[viceroy]

McDavid could be available and half of our fans wouldn’t want him.

Fricking hyperbole... What would he have to give up for McDavid if he said he wasn't willing to re-sign with EDM after, let's say a 4 game 1st round sweep? We'd have to give up more than half the team. Suzuki + every A prospect we have. Geez we already know that McD + a top 5 player in the league have been unable to win it all. What makes you think that we'd be any better sans Suzuki et al?

Let's be frank we need a Superstar Centre and a few years to become a Contender. You don't trade for those guys normally. You suck painfully for a few years and then draft him. That's what most of us Habs fans believe. I think our future Dcorps and G platoon is set. Now for that big time C? If the Hockey Gods gave us Celebrini or if maybe Catton would turn out to be a Suzuki equivalent we could make some noise in like 3 years.

Unfortunately there are a ton of Habs fans out there who are, like you, tired of losing and that keep looking for a shortcut. What do I say? Slow and steady boys, We just need that big time C and I personally don't think that's Zegras. I think he'll end up being a pretty solid 1st line Winger and for that I'd give WPG's 1st + 2 good prospects.

 

[viceroy]

The drysdale trade happened because PV had the opportunity to get a player he feels he can build around…

It's actually that Drysdale trade that makes me think Zegras might be available at a decent price. I've heard that Drysdale wasn't exactly performing to expectations and before you knew it he was outta town. Now I know a lot of people on here love Gauthier but I ain't 100% sold on him. I personally felt there should've been a better return there.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

It's actually that Drysdale trade that makes me think Zegras might be available at a decent price. I've heard that Drysdale wasn't exactly performing to expectations and before you knew it he was outta town. Now I know a lot of people on here love Gauthier but I ain't 100% sold on him. I personally felt there should've been a better return there.

I’d argue at the time of the trade drysdale was our best dmen.


We were high on gauthier , tried to trade up in that draft to get him…. It was a guy PV wanted and drysdale was likely the only guy Philly was interested in.