Rumor: The All Encompassing Trevor Zegras Thread

[Sorinth]

Smaller player are more injury prone that’s fact

And you can point to studies that actual offer proof for this supposed "fact" right?

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Would not target Zegras.

 

[salbutera]

And Zegras have prove that he can put 60
Pts/season and he’s bigger so less injury prone to injuries.

Both have + and - but at the end of the day, they are similar caliber. You can prefer one or the other but that’s by personal preference

He has …. one of only 8-players over last 10-years to have two 60+ pts on ELC

 

[teamfirst]

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[Vachon23]

And you can point to studies that actual offer proof for this supposed "fact" right?

I will try to find it but executives usually think like that

 

[Dutronc]

If I'm ANH I want Guhle.
As much as I love Kaiden, I would take the bet with something like :

Zegras vs Guhle + Farrell

 

[Canadiens98]

If I'm ANH I want Guhle.
As much as I love Kaiden, I would take the bet with something like :

Zegras vs Guhle + Farrell

To get a player like Zegras we'll need to give something to make it worth while for them.

Guhle very may well be that player.

 

[McEsenpi]

Habs Fans prefers Caufield and then think he has more value than Zegras.

Trevor has 200 games and 146 pts. 0.73ppg
Cole has 179 games and 129 pts. 0.72ppg

Trevor is also 2 months younger and a centerman/winger and those have more value than a 5’09 winger.

I understand you might like caufield and dont want to trade him one on one, but caufield definitely does not bring more in a trade. In fact, worst cade they have equal value.

So what would you want for Caufield is what the Ducks wants for Zegras.

 

[Dutronc]

Kaiden Guhle is a young canadian d-man who played for the national team with letters on his jersey and now play top pair minutes for a big canadian market.

I think is value is quite high!

 

[Habs 4 Life]

Habs Fans prefers Caufield and then think he has more value than Zegras.

Trevor has 200 games and 146 pts. 0.73ppg
Cole has 179 games and 129 pts. 0.72ppg

Trevor is also 2 months younger and a centerman/winger and those have more value than a 5’09 winger.

I understand you might like caufield and dont want to trade him one on one, but caufield definitely does not bring more in a trade. In fact, worst cade they have equal value.

So what would you want for Caufield is what the Ducks wants for Zegras.

What I want is both on this team!

 

[Canadiens98]

For those who think we can trade the WPG/CGY 1st and a prospect like Mesar (who was a late 1st rounder in 2022)

Would you trade Caufield for that pick and Mesar?

I think we have to be a little more realistic. Zegras hit 60+ points twice playing for one of the worst NHL clubs over the past 3 years. His cap hit is 5.75mil for the next 2 years and we can play him on the wing with either Suzuzki or Dach as the C, having Slafkovsky on the other line.


If he's available I think we need to do whatever we can (within reason) to bring him here.

 

[Omar]

Don’t trade Guhle for Zegras. I’m getting Sergachev for Drouin vibes

 

[BaseballCoach]

The one piece i think Anaheim could use is Matheson. A stablizing D probably at the peak of his value right now. Maybe a package with him a a 1st

Trading your best D for your 4th or 5th forward and then ADD a 1st?? I can't see KH doing that.

 

[26Mats]

Trading your best D for your 4th or 5th forward and then ADD a 1st?? I can't see KH doing that.

I do that because of age, if I think Zegras is the real deal.

But I think Anaheim doesn't do it because of the age gap.

 

[Bacchus1]

I imagine that this is if there are no red flags we are not privy to.

I would be ok giving up WPGs 1st and CALs 1st (lottery protected) + a prospect for Zegras if Kent et al thought it was a good idea. Our window is opening and two late picks probably won’t amount to a Zegras.

I wouldn’t compare it to Caufield because we aren’t floating Caufield’s name out there, but someone seems to be floating Zegras’ for some reason.

 

[Big Empty]

Habs Fans prefers Caufield and then think he has more value than Zegras.

Trevor has 200 games and 146 pts. 0.73ppg
Cole has 179 games and 129 pts. 0.72ppg

Trevor is also 2 months younger and a centerman/winger and those have more value than a 5’09 winger.

I understand you might like caufield and dont want to trade him one on one, but caufield definitely does not bring more in a trade. In fact, worst cade they have equal value.

So what would you want for Caufield is what the Ducks wants for Zegras.

Mentioning the two month gap between Caufield and Zegras at this stage is funny. It’s their D+5 not their D-1.

For all intents and purposes, they are the exact same age.

It’s not like Zegras is a one-month-old baby and Caufield is a three-month-old baby. As they both age, the value of that two month difference diminishes.

Sure it might have been somewhat relevant when they were 16, but it’s not relevant now.

All that nonsense aside, I’m on the Zegras train at the right cost. Adding Zegras to a forward nucleus of Slafkovsky, Suzuki, Caufield, and Dach is an exciting prospect.

 

[Miller Time]

Habs Fans prefers Caufield and then think he has more value than Zegras.

Trevor has 200 games and 146 pts. 0.73ppg
Cole has 179 games and 129 pts. 0.72ppg

Trevor is also 2 months younger and a centerman/winger and those have more value than a 5’09 winger.

I understand you might like caufield and dont want to trade him one on one, but caufield definitely does not bring more in a trade. In fact, worst cade they have equal value.

So what would you want for Caufield is what the Ducks wants for Zegras.

Odd that you selectively omitted the very obvious metric by which some would argue CC is more valuable...


CC - 72g in 179games. .40gpg
Zegras - 53g in 200games. .26gpg

Add in the 12pts/20g of playoff output to Zegras' zero in zero, and you have clear reason why one of the two signed a large multi-year extension & the other got forced into a bridge at a much lower annual salary.

I think Zegras is a great target & id be thrilled to see the Habs make an aggressive pitch for him... But I disagree that he'd have equal trade value to CC today.

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

For those who think we can trade the WPG/CGY 1st and a prospect like Mesar (who was a late 1st rounder in 2022)

Would you trade Caufield for that pick and Mesar?

I think we have to be a little more realistic. Zegras hit 60+ points twice playing for one of the worst NHL clubs over the past 3 years. His cap hit is 5.75mil for the next 2 years and we can play him on the wing with either Suzuzki or Dach as the C, having Slafkovsky on the other line.


If he's available I think we need to do whatever we can (within reason) to bring him here.

The difference is that Caufield is not available and Zegras reportedly is. If Verbeek isn't a fan then his market value will depend on how many teams are interested and to what extent.

 

[Habs10Habs]

And we could have had Kreider but we got Louis!!

You go hang your head in shame and think about what you've said.

 

[themilosh]

You go hang your head in shame and think what you've said.

I'd trade CC for Zegras and ANA 1st '24

 

[Habs10Habs]

I'd trade CC for Zegras and ANA 1st '24

I love CC, but I would too. Only I highly doubt Anaheim would be willing to pay that much.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

The difference is that Caufield is not available and Zegras reportedly is. If Verbeek isn't a fan then his market value will depend on how many teams are interested and to what extent.

Zegras is signed for 2 more years after this season. Even if they are open to move him, they are in no rush to trade him.

 

[themilosh]

I love CC, but I would too. Only I highly doubt Anaheim would be willing to pay that much.

Well i'm just not particularly fond of small players, and how they always seem to stick to habs culture... weve been riding the small forward for 30years and it is tiring.. take out Bergeron from Boston, and they arent nearly as scary with Marchand as their #1. CC isnt even particularly strong, not very fast and offers nothing defensively. Total perimeter player looking for a lazer beam into a small target or a one timer grom the cross thru the slot. Hes lethal at those two things, but when contained very pedestrian.
I would NOT want Zegras if we kept CC, but if CC were in the mix then by default we get bigger, relatively speaking.

Assume ANA is very willing..

Ok.. whats fair?

Id say CC is slightly better than zegras, but CC doesnt have any attitude issues..

ANA would be ridding themselves of a bad relationship and getting the better player in the deal.. this saves a lot of face . To make that happen they trade this years 1st (1oa protected) which wont help them, as they are supposed to be further along in their rebuild than us. This deal gets them back ready for next year.
And Cole is reunited With gauthier.. hell why not, we give them a D prospect type: barron and/or harris...

We get Zegras, Lindstrom and Demidov. Going into the summer. This becomes the back up core to a very strong top 6. No superstars, just solid stars.

 

[Monsieur Miz]

I love how everytime a player is rumored to be available, the Canadiens are somehow in it. What a waste of time.

 

[CoopersFalls]

You make room, Dach & Newhook aren't critical pieces on this team. I don't think they'll ever be. Think Eller & Desharnais, and that's a fair comparison.

Besides, Dach plays better on the wing with Suzuki...

Dach is extremely critical - maybe the most critical piece to this team. He could very well be the #1 C and better than Suzuki.