Rumor: The All Encompassing Trevor Zegras Thread

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What would you give up to get Zegras?

  • Habs 24 1st (Top 5 protected)

    Votes: 10 3.7%
  • Habs 25 1st (Top 5 protected)

    Votes: 9 3.4%
  • WPG 24 1st OR Cal 25 1st + forward and defense prospect (e.g. Mesar & Barron)

    Votes: 98 36.7%
  • WPG 24 1st AND Cal 25 1st + forward and defense prospect (e.g. Mesar & Barron)

    Votes: 34 12.7%
  • Habs 24 1st (Top 5 protected) AND WPG 24 1st AND Cal 25 1st

    Votes: 1 0.4%
  • Some other combination of 1st round picks and prospects

    Votes: 30 11.2%
  • Nothing - Zegras has too many red flags and will kill the culture

    Votes: 85 31.8%

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BLONG7

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Just for the fun of it.. I would try a major trade.

First ..to get Zegras..in my view..Newhook has to be in the trade so;

Zegras
3rd overall pick 2024 ( Demidov )

Vs

Newhook
Mailloux
8th overall pick 2024
Winnipeg 1st 2024
Calgary 1st 2025.

With Demidov and Zegras..you might have 2 lethal line...and maybe..the most spectacular team in the league...maybe not the best team..but so exciting.
Wow..............major trade alright.
Not sure what to think about this one..................it's big.
Has some merit, and boy we would then, be all in with the new core.
 

BaseballCoach

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For Zegras they’d have to have top6F and top4D potential.

WPG 1st, Barron, Newhook.

Expensive, but that might be what it takes.

Not sure that’s the best use of assets tho.
If it were up to me, and if they want Newhook, they get only a 2nd and not a first.

We'll need the first to replace Newhook.
 

BaseballCoach

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Not sure they need that much a RD and that won’t be enough.

Without MTL 2024 1st or Guhle or Reinbacher, Anaheim won’t be interested. Ask yourself what would you want for Caufield
IF Anaheim values Zegras equal to Caufield, then I'm not buying.
 

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Then you won’t because that’s his value
Then why trade him? They have a solid group of young forwards and maybe even more solid on D. I find it odd that Verbeek played hard ball the way he did and that he is on the trade block.
 
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Captain Mountain

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Then why trade him? They have a solid group of young forwards and maybe even more solid on D. I find it odd that Verbeek played hard ball the way he did and that he is on the trade block.

Its blindingly obvious that he's only available because they have center prospect depth and he could net a significant return. Its been multiple sources that he have said he is not being shopped. A trade would have to make sense for the Ducks for them to consider moving him.
 
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Zegras skill set is off the charts, his familiarity with MSL & Hughes is an advantage no other NHL team at present offers (let alone BFF Caufield), but to me the differentiator comes from the fact he’s got an on ice personality similar to Subban, that would only feed of the energy from an intense market like Mtl.

For all the naysayers, I would only present the improvement in Caufield’s overall game this season as exhibit A - his non existent defensive awareness & positioning has grown by leaps & bounds… no doubt there’s still a long ways to go but the progression I find quite impressive.
We have ptsd from kovalev caufield
 

Milhouse40

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Just for the fun of it.. I would try a major trade.

First ..to get Zegras..in my view..Newhook has to be in the trade so;

Zegras
3rd overall pick 2024 ( Demidov )

Vs

Newhook
Mailloux
8th overall pick 2024
Winnipeg 1st 2024
Calgary 1st 2025.

With Demidov and Zegras..you might have 2 lethal line...and maybe..the most spectacular team in the league...maybe not the best team..but so exciting.

I see all the incentive for the Habs to do this.....but none for Anaheim.
Take out Zegras and then the deal might make sense.

We're not getting Zegras unless we're ready to give a quality asset in return and by that I mean Guhle, Reinbacher, Slafkovsky, this year's 1st rounder (Habs) for example
 

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Sure but then we don’t go and get Dvo for a 1st and a 2nd, I mean that’s what you call a real dilemma am I right?
It's a chain of events that directed the Habs where they are now. Which is not ideal. So many bad draft picks over the years and some very questionable trades that erased some very good draft picks : McDonagh and Sergachev.
 
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salbutera

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I see all the incentive for the Habs to do this.....but none for Anaheim.
Take out Zegras and then the deal might make sense.

We're not getting Zegras unless we're ready to give a quality asset in return and by that I mean Guhle, Reinbacher, Slafkovsky, this year's 1st rounder (Habs) for example
Zegras isn’t a Pat “little ball of hate” Verbeek type player just as Jaime Drysdale wasn’t , but I could definitely see Verbeek wanting to get his hands on Jr Iginla this draft… a player who seems to be rocketing up draft position
 

SpeedyPotato

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It's a chain of events that directed the Habs where they are now. Which is not ideal. So many bad draft picks over the years and some very questionable trades that erased some very good draft picks : McDonagh and Sergachev.
I agree and I was being sarcastic, it’s crazy how we basically completely wasted a third overall pick, not only cause we picked the wrong player, but also with the value we ended up getting in exchange.
 

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I see all the incentive for the Habs to do this.....but none for Anaheim.
Take out Zegras and then the deal might make sense.

We're not getting Zegras unless we're ready to give a quality asset in return and by that I mean Guhle, Reinbacher, Slafkovsky, this year's 1st rounder (Habs) for example
I see your point..so let's try this one

Zegras
3rd overall....Demidov

Vs

Newhook
Reinbacher
8th overall
Winnipeg first 2024
Calgary first 2025
 

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Not sure they need that much a RD and that won’t be enough.

Without MTL 2024 1st or Guhle or Reinbacher, Anaheim won’t be interested. Ask yourself what would you want for Caufield

We're just a poor trade fit for Anaheim in general which makes the utility of this thread even more confusing.

I'd be shocked if we acquired Zegras.

If it were up to me, and if they want Newhook, they get only a 2nd and not a first.

We'll need the first to replace Newhook.

I'm pretty sure Anaheim laughs its ass off at Barron/Newhook/WPG 1st.
 
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Captain Mountain

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I see your point..so let's try this one

Zegras
3rd overall....Demidov

Vs

Newhook
Reinbacher
8th overall
Winnipeg first 2024
Calgary first 2025

You're not getting the two best pieces from the Ducks, come on. They aren't going to trade Zegras AND the 3rd OA unless they're getting a future star RD +.

Best case scenario, the Ducks like one of Montreal's RD that isn't Reinbacher and go for a Zegras for Newhook, Mailloux/Barron +. More realistically it would be something like Zegras for Reinbacher/Montreal's 2024 1st +.
 
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Canadiens Ghost

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Well Zegras dominated all the wjc u20s and his junior league playoffs and single handedly did better than his peers. You clearlyyyy never watched him play. Guy is like Subban : a gamer. The bigger the stage the better he shows
As I said, just a feeling. And Marner wasn't chopped liver in the WJC and junior league playoffs either.
I also said in a previous post I would trust Hughes judgment if he traded for him.
 

Boss Man Hughes

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We're just a poor trade fit for Anaheim in general which makes the utility of this thread even more confusing.

I'd be shocked if we acquired Zegras.



I'm pretty sure Anaheim laughs its ass off at Barron/Newhook/WPG 1st.
Barron/Newhook/Wpg 1st is a fair offer. But Ducks wouldn't be interested in less Verbeek really likes Newhook.
 
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teamfirst

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You're not getting the two best pieces from the Ducks, come on. They aren't going to trade Zegras AND the 3rd OA unless they're getting a future star RD +.

Best case scenario, the Ducks like one of Montreal's RD that isn't Reinbacher and go for a Zegras for Newhook, Mailloux/Barron +. More realistically it would be something like Zegras for Reinbacher/Montreal's 2024 1st +.
Clearly would take something like that, and would have to be at the draft before Habs pick if and only if the Ducks are in love with a kid still available
 

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I feel like there's two separate debates , If we can buy low on him I think every habs fan would be glad to have him.
I don't think Anaheim is selling low on him whatsoever , so what are people willing to give up ?

And don't tell me Something like Winnipeg first + Mesar/Barron , I mean something that Anaheim would actually take a call on
If Winnipeg 1st + Barron + something isn't enough, then the only other option is our 1st. I don't see much point in trading Reinbacher or Guhle for Zegras.
 
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