Rumor: The All Encompassing Trevor Zegras Thread

[26Mats]

Too much risk. Have to give up too much for Zegras, have to pay him ton of money then there are the problem child flags. It's too much risk for me.

If it goes wrong will destroy Habs rebuild. Be 5 years of Mickey mouse hockey for nothing. He's another Dubois.

You may be right. I just don't know. Hopefully HuGo know what they're doing!

 

[Sagikev]

Ouf 2024 OR 2025 is out of of the books for me. Late 1st + a prospect like Barron or Mesar sure. Not even sure I'd be willing to give both with a late 1st, it's not like Zegras has been killing it and he is overhyped by media for those lacrosse goals.

 

[dcyhabs]

Button also said that Fucale was the best goalie prospect since Price. Man is just a talking head. I just ignore him.

If only MB had...

 

[HuGort]

You may be right. I just don't know. Hopefully HuGo know what they're doing!

Big gamble

 

[vokiel]

You expect the same package that got Newhook to get Zegras?

Newhook was added for a 1st, 2nd, and some throw-in, so no definitely not.

Do you think Hutson or Mailloux are worth a 2nd and a throw-in?

 

[26Mats]

Big gamble

2019 draft players potentially available this summer (we already have Dach, Caufield, Newhook):

- Zegras
- Alex Turcotte
- Kappo Kakko

We'll see if Hughes goes back to the well...

 

[vokiel]

We added Dach and Newhook via trade, hes made moves.

If youre gonna spend the assets go after Kakko instead, hes gonna serve a better niche. Realistically, were better off going after AHL players/Euro from the 2021 and 2022 draft. NYR also has Cuylle or Othmann that are worth looking at for different reasons.

Sometimes the best move is also to just... doing nothing.

Adding draft assets and using them in two, three years when we know what we need isnt outside the real of possibilities.

He got reclamation projects who have a solid chance of not being with the club anymore after their deals are over. Kakko is another reclamation project, Rags would never get Zebras for him.

Getting Zegras or any other top 6 candidates needs to be a real hockey trade this time.

 

[HabbyGuy]

I went with option #3. For that price, I think it would be worth taking the risk.

This.

I can totally understand why some would be weary of acquiring him, or question if habs managment would even want him. (I'm in that category) But he does check alot of the boxes that they'd be looking for in making such a move. (Age, position, talent etc..)

At that price, it's worth taking a look to see how he'd fare on this team in this market. I don't think his value would depreciate all that much to the point we couldn't regain what we lost if it doesn't work out.

There's no questioning his skill or potential upside, and we're not really sure how he'd work out here in this environment or what MSL and company could do with him until we've seen it first hand ourselves.

It's a more than worthy educated gamble at that price point, imo.

Anything more then that I'd politefully pass. He's really not my cup of tea to begin with, but I'd be open to paying option 3 price for a potential plate of crow.

Because the upside is there and he perfectly fits in our timeline.

Afterall the 2019 draft essentially belongs to us.

 

[General Fanager]

No to Zegras on my side. I would rather trade for a top notch centre anyway, in case Dach turns out to be really Mr Glass.

They have enough picks and young assets to do both.....

The Jets 1st + Pits 2nd (2025) + LD (not Hutson or Guhle)

 

[EveryDay]

If Zegras was to be traded for a late 1st round pick, I can guarantee you that many team in a playoff position would pull the trigger.

MTL wouldn't get him.

Our 1st pick this year is the only way to get him imo if, of course we're not drafting in the top5.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

Newhook was added for a 1st, 2nd, and some throw-in, so no definitely not.

Do you think Hutson or Mailloux are worth a 2nd and a throw-in?

You wrote a solid prospect (not Barron or Mesar), which seemed like you meant a lesser prospect than Barron/Mesar.

 

[HuGort]

Nathan Gaucher is barely on pace to outscore Jared Davidson.

He certainly never transitioned well to pro game

 

[26Mats]

If Zegras was to be traded for a late 1st round pick, I can guarantee you that many team in a playoff position would pull the trigger.

MTL wouldn't get him.

Our 1st pick this year is the only way to get him imo if, of course we're not drafting in the top5.

I voted that I would be willing to trade the winnipeg 1st + calgary 1st + Mesar/Beck + Barron/Struble. But I don't think that package gets us Zegras.

 

[vokiel]

You wrote a solid prospect (not Barron or Mesar), which seemed like you meant a lesser prospect than Barron/Mesar.

No I refer to a solid prospect as one in our top 5.

 

[tnq]

He's a skilled player that's for sure. If he's available for a good price we should be on it. I don't get the comparison with Drouin it is my opinion that Zegras raw skills are better. A game changer in playoffs though that's the question mark. Lot of "dentelle" in his game. His overall game needs lot of refinement. For that reason i would not pay the price you would normally have to pay for an equally skilled player with a more sound overall game.


It's easier to teach how to win that it is to teach skills.

For real he has skill to be a game changer but he doesn't have the will to be. Seriously, if he is that good why the Duck want to trade him ? Will you trade Slaf ? Will you trade Suzuki ?

 

[HuGort]

Can't see Zegras returning as much as Cutter Gauthier. Both probably similar value on ice but Cutter 3 years younger and longer control. Plus 6 million a year cheaper.

 

[BJCOLLINS]

Gally - Allen & 2nd

lol

 

[Price is Wright]

Anaheim needs a right handed defenceman. Would probably do something around Logan Mailloux.

 

[Miller Time]

Top 10 protected Habs 1st (becomes top 3 protected '25 1st then unprotected '26)
Strubble or Heineman
Anderson or Dvorak

Or

WPG 1st, Pens '25 2nd
Strubble or Heineman
Anderson or Dvorak

That's about the value I'd be willing to offer... +/- a 3rd or equivalent depth prospect

While Anderson might be viewed as a camp dump, I could also see Verbeek seeing him as a good fit for them as a vet middle 6 fwd given how young their group is & with Henrique/Silfverberg likely leaving as UFAs

 

[RationalExpectations]

2019 draft players potentially available this summer (we already have Dach, Caufield, Newhook):

- Zegras
- Alex Turcotte
- Kappo Kakko

We'll see if Hughes goes back to the well...

Depends on the cost.
None of these teams is really under pressure to sell those assets so they wont come cheap. I really liked Turcotte and Kakko at the draft. zegras is a special player but would not be my priority (that being said if Zegras traded has a Eichel growth path this is very enticing)

 

[Boss Man Hughes]

Can't see Zegras returning as much as Cutter Gauthier. Both probably similar value on ice but Cutter 3 years younger and longer control. Plus 6 million a year cheaper.

Zegras is signed for 2 more years No guarantee Gauthier will sign with the Ducks or any other team that acquires him.

 

[Saundies]

I think Hughes just plays this similar to what he has so far in the past. if any trade happens, it'll be at the draft. We'll either take our guy, depending on what we're looking for and where we're picking.

If we still really want Zegras, we'll either move out assets we have or trade to get one ANA may want and package it.

I just can't turn my nose up at a Zegras-type player if he's actually available. He could have holes, sure, but the upside is worth them IMO.

 

[crosbyshow]

For Zegras, I think that this trade is doable:

Zegras
Vs
Newhook and Winnipeg 1st

Newhook is not untouchable .

Drafted in 2019 like Zegras.

Anaheim
has full of great prospects on D

Would you do it as Habs fans?

 

[Colezuki]

For Zegras, I think that this trade is doable:

Zegras
Vs
Newhook and Winnipeg 1st

Newhook is not untouchable .

Drafted in 2019 like Zegras.

Anaheim
has full of great prospects on D

Would you do it as Habs fans?

Now that is a creative trade that I hadn't considered

 

[JustAHabFan]

The only reason why I would be interested in Zegras is because we have MSL and being traded tend to straight up unruly kids. Plus, Caufield knows him well and they spent time together in Montreal last summer, so management should have done its due diligence. If you can have him for a late first pick and a B prospect... I would pull the trigger, yes. Worth the risk.

A late 1st round + B prospect won't get you Zegras and that's for sure.