Speculation: The All Encompassing Edmonton Oilers Thread

[ChaoticOrange]

FWIW, it hasn’t really been like that. It’s more a matter of back-to-back-to-back exits against god-mode Vasilevskiy, god-mode Shesterkin, and “somehow Palpatine has returned” Bobrovsky. Not much to be done about that, regardless of what you’re bringing defensively.

Anyway, just a nitpick. Carry on.

huh, getting goalied hey, almost like the best forward on the planet might be able to help that. Ah well, at least you've got Slavin amirite

 

[hamzarocks]

At worst? So you're saying there's an argument for him over one of Gretzky, Orr, Lemieux and Howe?

he is 5th rn, but he is the only guy in the top 5 still playing

He has the ability to continue to move up. 9 years in after this and he has 5 rosses/4 lindsays/3harts absolutely an all time great start

 

[cptjeff]

and yet with all this focus on defence, Carolina hasn't gotten anything done and somehow keeps getting let down by their goalies and can't even make a cup final, let alone win one. Maybe your defence isn't as good as you think it is?

The Hurricanes have more than twice the number of playoff wins as Edmonton in the current era. 32 versus 15. No cup yet, sure, but more than two times as effective in winning playoff games as Edmonton.

And if having McDavid is so great, why has Edmonton not reached or won a cup final? Why have they won a fraction of the playoff games as liddle ol' Carolina with their unimpressive offensive players?

 

[POVERTY]

POV: 31 other fanbases after you just said you wouldn't trade Slavin for McDavid 1:1

 

[rogking65]

Scoreboard, bro. Edmonton just lost to the f*ing sharks. With a certain McDavid guy playing.

so a player who plays approx one third of a game ,is one of 20 players on the team and is surrounded by poor talent is totally responsible for his teams success or lack of?

 

[ChaoticOrange]

How many conference has Edmonton Sniffed in the past 5 years?

2019 - Canes - Conference finals; Oilers missed playoffs
2020 - Canes - won qualifying round lost first round - Oilers - Lost Qualifying Round
2021 - Canes - Lost Semi-finals won one round - Oilers Lost First Round
2022 - Canes - Lost Semi-Finals won one Round - Oilers Lost Conference finals won 2 round
2023 - Canes - Lost Conference finals won two rounds - Oilers Lost Semi-Finals won 1 round.

And it's no secret the Hockey experts say the Eastern Conferences is the toughest of the 2 conferences.

the last two teams to beat the Oilers in the playoffs went on to win the Stanley Cup, and Vegas players said Edmonton was the toughest out by a mile. Vegas made mincemeat out of the team that beat you guys.

 

[Coffey]

thats actually the oilers franchise the past 15 years

Last 2 years have been ok. More playoff wins than the majority of the league.

 

[wmupreds]

The Hurricanes have more than twice the number of playoff wins as Edmonton in the current era. 32 versus 15. No cup yet, sure, but more than two times as effective in winning playoff games as Edmonton.

And if having McDavid is so great, why has Edmonton not reached or won a cup final? Why have they won a fraction of the playoff games as liddle ol' Carolina with their unimpressive offensive players?

There are 23 players on an NHL roster

 

[Bond]

and yet with all this focus on defence, Carolina hasn't gotten anything done and somehow keeps getting let down by their goalies and can't even make a cup final, let alone win one. Maybe your defence isn't as good as you think it is?

I just can't see McDavid traded unless it is a deadline deal in the last year of his contract or it is for a pile of picks and prospects. I don't think there is a hockey trade out there that makes sense for him that would leave both teams happy.

 

[chaz4hockey]

god this place has gone downhill.

McDavid is playing with two separate upper body injuries after carrying this team on his back for almost a decade. Go for a walk and come back smarter.

So he’s damaged goods and may not be the difference maker going forward (btw: doesn’t he also have a knee injury?)

Deal assets may need to be scaled back then.

 

[ChaoticOrange]

The Hurricanes have more than twice the number of playoff wins as Edmonton in the current era. 32 versus 15. No cup yet, sure, but more than two times as effective in winning playoff games as Edmonton.

And if having McDavid is so great, why has Edmonton not reached or won a cup final? Why have they won a fraction of the playoff games as liddle ol' Carolina with their unimpressive offensive players?

We're losing to teams that win the Cup. You're losing to teams that Vegas absolutely toyed with. We are not the same.

In seriousness, it's because the team around McDavid isn't as good. Edmonton with McDavid, flawed as it may be, has been a 100 point team and a threat in the playoffs. Edmonton with no McDavid and Slavin instead wouldn't have made the playoffs a single time.

 

[AlainVigneaultsGum]

I wouldn't trade Slavin for McDavid straight up. Let alone include Aho. Keep McDavid, The Canes will keep their chances for a Cup.

Ayo it's not too late to delete this.

 

[wmupreds]

"You'd trade Zach Whitecloud for Connor Bedard?? Lol bro check the standings"

 

[POVERTY]

There are 23 players on an NHL roster

Slavin counts for 19 of them. It becomes an NBA team where one player can carry, and Slavin is prime Lebron.

 

[SlavinAway]

so a player who plays approx one third of a game ,is one of 20 players on the team and is surrounded by poor talent is totally responsible for his teams success or lack of?

This is why a McDavid trade will never happen. It's not the NBA where a single player gets you into contention.

 

[mikeyfan]

No lol

There's no assets in the league that is worth McDavid on a one-for-one Trade, besides maybe Bedard

Slavin is a solid defenseman, but this take is mindblowingly bad

head to head, Slavin has held McDavid below his career averages in the 11 games they have met.

 

[cptjeff]

There are 23 players on an NHL roster

Now you're starting to get it! There are 23 players on an NHL roster. It turns out that having one really, really good forward doesn't actually move the needle that much over having a good forward, and given how many forwards there are and how many defenseman there are in terms of ice time and proportion of the roster, a really, really good defenseman actually adds more value than a really, really good forward.

 

[Garbageyuk]

you know it's bad when Habs fans that despise the Oilers and revel in their misery think your Oilers take is awful

Why are you so obsessed with me?

Lmao

 

[mikeyfan]

Slavin counts for 19 of them. It becomes an NBA team where one player can carry, and Slavin is prime Lebron.

And you are saying McDavid counts for 22 of them in Edmonton.

 

[Svechhammer]

Assume both sides can sort out any cap/roster implications.

Does this make both teams better?

Sure, I'd make the trade.

Would suck to lose Aho, but Slavin would absolutely not resign in that defensive hell hole when his contract is up, and we'd welcome him back with open arms and win the next billion Cups in doing so. Easy win for the Canes, even if we have to give up multiple picks and Morrow/Nikishin to do it. Shit, I'd throw in Jarvis just for the lolz

 

[Bouboumaster]

head to head, Slavin has held McDavid below his career averages in the 11 games they have met.

McDavid have a shot at finishing top 5 best player of all Time, Slavin is a top 10 defenseman in the league, at best

 

[ChaoticOrange]

So he’s damaged goods and may not be the difference maker going forward (btw: doesn’t he also have a knee injury?)

Deal assets may need to be scaled back then.

the major injury holding him back right now is apparently a bad oblique strain. he can't take faceoffs or shoot the puck and I frankly don't know why he's even still playing right now. He has another hip problem from when he collided with dipshit Evander Kane. He's going to be fine, but he needs to be less stubborn and shut it down for a few weeks.

But yeah, he's washed. Jalen Chatfield asking too much? Maybe whatever a Cal Burke is? Wouldn't want the Hurricanes to have to sacrifice too much of their beloved defence, maybe a depth forward straight up

 

[mikeyfan]

Ayo it's not too late to delete this.

And it's not too late for you to delete your post. I'll take my Hurricanes over the Oilers every day and will come out ahead, with your McDavid vs My Slavin all year long.

 

[rangersfansince08]

The Hurricanes have more than twice the number of playoff wins as Edmonton in the current era. 32 versus 15. No cup yet, sure, but more than two times as effective in winning playoff games as Edmonton.

And if having McDavid is so great, why has Edmonton not reached or won a cup final? Why have they won a fraction of the playoff games as liddle ol' Carolina with their unimpressive offensive players?

Do you understand that teams typically use 12 forwards, 6 defensemen and a goalie? Are you new to hockey, trolling or just incapable of understanding a simple fact like that?

 

[Hockeyholic]

Who would Carolina's #2C be? Their #1D?

Yes, McDavid is better by a large margin. But the Canes just lost offense and defense.

FTR, I do think Canes would make trade. But still...adding McDavid doesn't necessarily make everything better. Especially in a team oriented sport.