Speculation: The All Encompassing Edmonton Oilers Thread

LesCanadiens

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Why not just coax Michael Ryder out of retirement and then you could get McDavid for Halak, Ryder and a 2nd?

No way in any form of reality does Edm trade the best player on the planet for what you're proposing. No way....
 
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Soundwave

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Katz will not allow Draisaitl or McDavid to be traded.

It's not even like a "would your GM consider this" ... any deal for Draisaitl and McDavid goes through Katz and it's a no, the GM has no say so.

Without Draisaitl you have no chance of retaining McDavid.

McDavid ain't sticking around to play with ... Morgan Frost.
 

Canadiens Ghost

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This is amazing. I am so proud of hfcanes right now.

For those who don't know, the Canes catch phrase this year is "cause chaos". Looks like some of our posters have taken that to heart.

Oilers fans, just be thankful that you've got something else to talk about for a little while.
So intentionally trolling? Not a good look for HFB. Too bad for the posters that are looking for a serious discussion.
 

thedjpd

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Katz will not allow Draisaitl or McDavid to be traded.

It's not even like a "would your GM consider this" ... any deal for Draisaitl and McDavid goes through Katz and it's a no, the GM has no say so.

Without Draisaitl you have no chance of retaining McDavid.

McDavid ain't sticking around to play with ... Morgan Frost.

With the current trend, he ain’t sticking around anyway…
 

Soundwave

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With the current trend, he ain’t sticking around anyway…

You're not going to make that decision based on 12 games or even 82 games really.

Like I said though, the GM has no say so in this. Those two are under contract for Daryl Katz, and IMO he is not selling either one any time soon.

What you will likely see instead is several 1st round picks + prospects like Broberg/Holloway offered in packages to get goaltending + D help + likely a new coach at some point.

Nothing happens before that.
 
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BB88

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actually a decent offer for 97....dont think stars would do it but would balance the oil out

It’s much more than a decent.

Legit 1C+1D combo signed for 17M combined for the next 5 3/4 years.

But the ”problem” is that no Gm can be the Gm that traded away McDavid.
Trading Drai doesn’t have that pressure
 

Matty Sundin

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Edmonton is not trading Drais until end of season when he can eligible to sign an extension to max his value for a sign and trade.

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Katz will not allow Draisaitl or McDavid to be traded.

It's not even like a "would your GM consider this" ... any deal for Draisaitl and McDavid goes through Katz and it's a no, the GM has no say so.

Without Draisaitl you have no chance of retaining McDavid.

McDavid ain't sticking around to play with ... Morgan Frost.
If Drais tells Katz he’s not signing an extension in the summer, he’s gonna have to trade him.
 

Soundwave

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Edmonton is not trading Drais until end of season when he can eligible to sign an extension to max his value for a sign and trade.

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If Drais tells Katz he’s not signing an extension in the summer, he’s gonna have to trade him.

Even then I don't think so. They will double down on seeing if they have a good season next year and make some trades elsewhere if need be. Same thing the Canucks did with Petterson this year.

The other issue is why is Draisaitl (assuming Katz would allow a deal, which he wouldn't) even sign in Philly?

He won't. Going from playing with McDavid to a team that's probably still in the middle of a pretty long rebuild isn't likely to be that appealing for a player like him. So Philly would be giving up all these assets for a guy who's just going to walk to UFA and sign with like Florida or New York or team up with McDavid somewhere else in that hypothetical scenario.
 
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Aashir Mallik

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How many conference has Edmonton Sniffed in the past 5 years?

2019 - Canes - Conference finals; Oilers missed playoffs
2020 - Canes - won qualifying round lost first round - Oilers - Lost Qualifying Round
2021 - Canes - Lost Semi-finals won one round - Oilers Lost First Round
2022 - Canes - Lost Semi-Finals won one Round - Oilers Lost Conference finals won 2 round
2023 - Canes - Lost Conference finals won two rounds - Oilers Lost Semi-Finals won 1 round.

And it's no secret the Hockey experts say the Eastern Conferences is the toughest of the 2 conferences.
Canes wins in said conferences finals: 0
Edmonton wins in said conference finals: 0

You gotta win 4 rounds, as a leafs fan I’d know.

Getting swept 2 times isn’t great, offence drying up and goaltending being outdueled doesn’t help

Mcdavid help the team to score more than 5 and 6 goals in 10 games.
 

Super Cake

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McDavid is worth way more than that. And anyone saying they wouldn't trade Slavin for McDavid is out of their minds.

As a Knights fan who saw his team win a cup last season, i would trade anyone of ours players for McDavid. Having said that though, even i will admit that none of our players or prospects would bring back a McDavid no matter how many different combinations Vegas tried to use to get him.

Winning the cup takes a team effort. It is not McDavids fault that he is surrounded by mediocre players.

I would be willing to bet money that if you replaced McDavid with Eichel last season during the playoffs, Vegas would still probably win the cup.
 

Diversification

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You add McDavid to CAR and remove Slavin and Aho and CAR likely wins the Cup in the next year or 2. CAR is such a good systems team that they can absorb the loss of even someone like Slavin and to upgrade from Aho to McDavid instantly gives them the elite gamebreaker they need to be super scary out in the playoffs.
 
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tarheelhockey

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:lol: at the OP

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