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Flat Ronnie

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Pretty concerned with our scoring depth going forward. Stamkos carried us all year when Point and Kuch were out, but we aren't in position to succeed like that anymore.
 

Point21

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i wonder if we have someone on LTIR other than Seabrook to start the year
 

Flat Ronnie

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Names - Stamkos - Kuch
Killorn - Point - Paul
Hagel - Cirelli - Colton
Maroon - ABB - Perry

Hedman - Foote
Serg - Cernak
Cole - Myers/Bogo

That look close? Worried about that group going into the playoffs. One of Stamkos, Kuch, Point or Hedman go down and its a wrap.
 

ThunderRoad

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I think this is gonna be a transition year unless there is some huge move made.
Yeah, alright, but I am not seeing this up and coming player we have in the minors that can step into the top 6 in which we will be down at least 2 top 6 spots. That will also be the last year of Hagel's RFA deal.

How in the world did we just commit that much cap space to a small percentage of your overall roster. Especially when management has to realize the secret to Tampa's success was depth. And BriseBois just shipped out a good player because of cap reasons. So next step is throw out max deals that deplete overall depth even more? Not learning anything from this cap crunch grind?
 

ccman68

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we didn't have point this year so the forward group isn't really any worse. defense i'm not as confident in
 

Master P

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Yeah, alright, but I am not seeing this up and coming player we have in the minors that can step into the top 6 in which we will be down at least 2 top 6 spots. That will also be the last year of Hagel's RFA deal.

How in the world did we just commit that much cap space to a small percentage of your overall roster. Especially when management has to realize the secret to Tampa's success was depth. And BriseBois just shipped out a good player because of cap reasons. So next step is throw out max deals that deplete overall depth even more? Not learning anything from this cap crunch grind?
I trust the management. There isn't going to be one move that solves everything. Its gonna take time.
 

TheSchmidt

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Names - Stamkos - Kuch
Killorn - Point - Paul
Hagel - Cirelli - Colton
Maroon - ABB - Perry

Hedman - Foote
Serg - Cernak
Cole - Myers/Bogo

That look close? Worried about that group going into the playoffs. One of Stamkos, Kuch, Point or Hedman go down and its a wrap.

I think PEB is the 4C, Cirelli is the 2C and Stamkos is on the wing again

ABB, Names, Colton, and Hagel hopefully have a fair battle to gets Palat's spot

but considering Vladdy is likely a Cooper favorite, he'll get the spot by default
 

Flat Ronnie

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I like PEB is the 4C, Cirelli is the 2C and Stamkos is on the wing again

ABB, Names, Colton, and Hagel hopefully have a fair battle to gets Palat's spot

but considering Vladdy is likely a Cooper favorite, he'll get the spot by default
How many times are we gonna saddle Stamkos with Killorn and other non-threats on the second line? Also, he us BY FAR our best faceoff man.

Maybe its time to see if Point can carry a second line.
 

TheSchmidt

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How many times are we gonna saddle Stamkos with Killorn and other non-threats on the second line? Also, he us BY FAR our best faceoff man.

Maybe its time to see if Point can carry a second line.
You're not wrong, but they didn't give Cirelli that deal to be the 3C

Maybe they try Point and Cirelli together and let Stamkos be 1C
 

TheDaysOf 04

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Names - Stamkos - Kuch
Killorn - Point - Paul
Hagel - Cirelli - Colton
Maroon - ABB - Perry

Hedman - Foote
Serg - Cernak
Cole - Myers/Bogo

That look close? Worried about that group going into the playoffs. One of Stamkos, Kuch, Point or Hedman go down and its a wrap.
To me this applies most to Vasy. As long as he’s in net we have a chance. Bolts have gone to the finals without Stammer and without Point
 

JTBF81

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So as it sits right now, the cap next year will be 83.5m. we have 10.4m to sign Colton, Foote, and a bunch of AHL guys. assuming guys like Ryfors, Fortier, Koepke, and Perbix take 900k on their next deals, it would leave 3m to bring in a forward and depth dman.
Lines would look something like this:

Hagel-Point-Kuch
Koepke-Cirelli-Stamkos
Colton-Paul-Fortier
Maroon-Ryfors-X

Hedman-Foote
Sergy-Cernak
X-Perbix/Bogo

Vasy
Alnefelt
Yeah, that is not a Cup contending group. Many holes in the F group and Foote is not a top pairing caliber dman, at all.
 

Flat Ronnie

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Does it feel like JBB is willing to jeopardize the next two years (our current window) to retool a new core window starting with a higher cap in 2024?

Seems like he's done going all-in with this current generation (Stamkos, Hedman and Kuch) and looking more towards building around a higher salary cap in 2024 with the next generation core of Point, Serg, Cirelli, Paul, Cernak.
 

Fabiobest

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Does it feel like JBB is willing to jeopardize the next two years (our current window) to retool a new core window starting with a higher cap in 2024?

Seems like he's done going all-in with this current generation (Stamkos, Hedman and Kuch) and looking more towards building around a higher salary cap in 2024 with the next generation core of Point, Serg, Cirelli, Paul, Cernak.
Kuch and Vasy will be with us.
I bet Stammer will sign a friendly deal to end his career with us.
 

Hoek

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We were always going to take a hit. I'm not sure what sort of magic moves we could've done that wouldn't have made the team worse at all.
 

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