Yeah Montreal really needs to have a 1-2 punch with Suzuki. Wright can likely come in and play middle 6 C and get adjusted. And Slaf just meshes into that NJ lineup really well. Perfect kind of power forward to play with Hughes.
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Yeah Montreal really needs to have a 1-2 punch with Suzuki. Wright can likely come in and play middle 6 C and get adjusted. And Slaf just meshes into that NJ lineup really well. Perfect kind of power forward to play with Hughes.
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If Wright works out well that will really help Montreal but the kid has left me wanting at times. I think he is solid pick and we’ll see How it plays out.
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How much of a difference do our scouts see between Mateychuk and Korchinski? I agree with Sur, maybe the opportunity is to draft a quality d-man in that slot, and then move a guy like Ville for forward help.
Several mentions of trading Heinola for forward help. What is he realistically going to garner in a trade?
Ya you don't see top prospects traded for other top prospects / good young players very often. It seems like teams usually like their guys, unless they have a reason not to (like attitude problems, or them wanting to be moved).
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When you say several mentions I assume you mean HFBoards or have you heard something more substantial?
I had suggested it as an option if we drafted a very similar style and caliber defensive prospect in Mateychuk.
The rationale was that if the team is locked in to using Schmidt and Pionk as their offensive guys on the backend for the next three years or so and our left side is full then it might make sense to deal him for help upfront where we have lost some depth. Mateychuk's development window and estimated NHL arrival would likely align with when Schidt and some others leave.
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I guess TNSE can cross that bridge if and when they come to it.
Watching Makar, Toews, and even Byram shred the Oilers while watching Fox set the tone in New York with the skill/ IQ combo I am a little reluctant to part with a skilled smart defender like Heinola just as he is ready for prime time. I would only part with him if we get real value back. I am more inclined to try to move an expensive vet to get the cap leveraging lift.
Oh I'd much rather this org take a hard look at what you can do with a skilled and mobile defense. I think we have the pieces with JoMo, Ville, Pionk and Schmidt to have a real robust puck moving, transition and offensive attack team. I just remain heavily skeptical that is how the org thinks. They seem to want a good mix of big and physical dmen on their rosters and that blocks Ville from getting playing time.
Hopefully that changed with the next coach. My idea was based on the team keeping the d they have and remaining status quo in deployment.
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Yea I think a blend (size skill) is nice that is why I would rather try Ville in place of one of the other smaller skilled vets like Schmidt. If we get a tidy return for Ville I am open to it but short of that I want to see if he becomes an upgrade. He is at the perfect age to step in and start to earn his spot. At a minimum if we insist on playing Schmidt on the bottom pair then make it with Ville vs Stan for now since Schmidt and Stan don't work.
It's because of how far we made it with a defence like that. We made it to the conference finals with a big but still mobile defence. Buff, Trouba, Myers, Chiarot and Morrissey were all some combo of big/physical and mobile. We absolutely dominated the wild physically and our defence was a big reason why we beat Nashville.
The org looks at that and says that is what we need to be again to get there.
Oh I am aware of the rationale but good look getting another Buff to lead the charge. Also to me I'm having a hard time understanding what we are trying to build right now.
We have one real strong two-way dmen in JoMo but then a bunch of specialists.
I like Samberg as a defensive minded guy with some bite in our top 4 but outside of that we have a lot of players I'd like to see upgraded on.
I think Heionla if he develops as I hope can be more of an all around guy like JoMo and would love to see him with Samberg long term on the second pairing.
DeMelo can anchor a third pairing with any number of options, be it Chisholm, Stanley, Dillion etc.
That juat leaves a player to play with JoMo on the top pairing.
We just desperately need a top pairing RHD.
If Scheifele is on the market it might be our only chance to land thay piece.
Yeah that's the difficult part though. We need to find a team that is willing to move what might be the rarest skater position in hockey right now for the 2nd rarest skater position in hockey. Teams generally aren't willing to do that unless they have an abundance of RHD.
I just can't see where we are finding the team and the player that gets us there.
Hard to say but we have seen it happen (Johansson for Jones) so I'm not going to say it's impossible.
Nashville had a glut of RHD so they had the ability to move one. I just don't see any team currently with that kind of makeup.
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I really think Scheif would be a fit for Detroit... they need some kind of vet leadership during the rebuild
Edvindsson could be a #1 RHD - I'd still try for a package of Bert and Edvindsson or Cossa but I don't see them giving up Cossa, Seider or Raymond... at least I wouldn't
Edvindsson could be a #1 RHD - I'd still try for a package of Bert and Edvindsson or Cossa but I don't see them giving up Cossa, Seider or Raymond... at least I wouldn't
I don't think Yzerman is in to much of a hurry to get into contention. Plus Edvinsson is a LHD and there's absolutely no way they move Seider for 2 years of Scheif.
That's the other sticking point with Scheif. There's a really good chance he's a two year rental.
I saw NJ is willing to move pick #2. If we could move a package that starts with Scheif for pick 2 that would be huge.
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Only way to get that top pairing RHD would be to trade Schiefele in a package that included a top 5-6 pick, and then draft one.
The way TN operates, I don't see that happening.
Read an article suggesting that our picks this year may be available for trade. If that's the case, giving up both 1st rounders+ to get a top 5-6 pick this year could be another avenue.
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The way TN operates, I don't see that happening.
Read an article suggesting that our picks this year may be available for trade. If that's the case, giving up both 1st rounders+ to get a top 5-6 pick this year could be another avenue.
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No way Stevie Y is dealing any of his top young prospects for 2 years of 55.
Detroit is willing to grow into a Stanley Cup contender with their young guns the next few years.
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From what I read, it sounded like he was flexible for either side like Schmidt. But I also don't watch Swedish hockey haha...
Not sure I'm down for pick #2 for Scheif - we need a player not a pick
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Half their team is a UFA after next season.... they need some vet presence and 'hope' to keep Larkin, Bert, Suter from walking...
Any trade would involve the prospectives teams talking to the agents, etc about long term contract potential... whatever that might look like
