The 2017-2018 NHL Trade Deadline Thread

[Name Nameless]

But do you prefer a few months of Raanta to a late 1st? Of Raanta on a bad deal to a late first?

Am I the only one thinking Raanta may give a small "new-hometown-discount" to the first team who treated him as a starter? Cause that would, as we all know, be the Yotes. And he deserved to be a starter.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

Am I the only one thinking Raanta may give a small "new-hometown-discount" to the first team who treated him as a starter? Cause that would, as we all know, be the Yotes. And he deserved to be a starter.

He might. Then again, he could do what Greiss and Dubnyk did and parlay his good play into a contract demand that we won't pay. But I have faith in Raantaplan.

 

[namttebih]

I think Hjalmarsson is too important to trade. Otherwise they’d have done it yesterday.

I kind of figured that. Other than the mcd trade it was pretty quiet on the quality dmen front yesterday.

Humor me. I'm guessing a couple of near ready good prospects? What needs?

 

[The Feckless Puck]

Humor me. I'm guessing a couple of near ready good prospects? What needs?

This is presupposing that we'd be in a position to draft Rasmus Dahlin. In that case, we would need a good-to-great center or right wing prospect and a legit draft asset, I would think.

 

[Jamieh]

Am I the only one thinking Raanta may give a small "new-hometown-discount" to the first team who treated him as a starter? Cause that would, as we all know, be the Yotes. And he deserved to be a starter.

I read a lot about players and hometown discounts but have a really hard time coming up with a list of guys who have actually done it??

 

[Jamieh]

This is presupposing that we'd be in a position to draft Rasmus Dahlin. In that case, we would need a good-to-great center or right wing prospect and a legit draft asset, I would think.

IMO if you win the Dahlin sweepstakes it make him even more needed for AZ.

 

[The Feckless Puck]

I read a lot about players and hometown discounts but have a really hard time coming up with a list of guys who have actually done it??

Yandle did it... 'course, we turned around and traded him fairly soon afterwards...

 

[Name Nameless]

I read a lot about players and hometown discounts but have a really hard time coming up with a list of guys who have actually done it??

Fairly certain most people agree Zuccarello did this on his current contract with the Rangers.

 

[Jamieh]

Fairly certain most people agree Zuccarello did this on his current contract with the Rangers.

A small winger in the middle of a 49 point season signs for 4 years and $18 million and that's a discount???

 

[Jamieh]

Yandle did it... 'course, we turned around and traded him fairly soon afterwards...

I'd say the was fair value for Yandle but that is a debatable one.

 

[rt]

But do you prefer a few months of Raanta to a late 1st? Of Raanta on a bad deal to a late first?

I'm not concerned.

 

[cobra427]

I think Hjalmarsson is too important to trade. Otherwise they’d have done it yesterday.

Agreed, he has been our most consistent D man.

 

[Mosby]

Maybe we see a Hammer extension coupled with, or following, an OEL extension.

 

[cobra427]

But do you prefer a few months of Raanta to a late 1st? Of Raanta on a bad deal to a late first?

We can't keep trading players that are playing well and have the potential Raanta does for late picks. Chayka Hedged with Kuemper and likely knows what it will take to sign Raanta. We will sign him at market value, I'm not worried about it, there won't be a bidding war.

 

[SniperHF]

Doan is the most stark example of a hometown discount, Buffalo offered him 9 million more than we did.

 

[Jamieh]

Doan is the most stark example of a hometown discount, Buffalo offered him 9 million more than we did.

See that just seems reasonable to me as I'd want at least $9 million more to live in Buffalo!!!!

 

[Jamieh]

Seriously though there is a severe difference between Doan taking less after 15 plus years to stay somewhere vs Raanta taking less after 5 months. If Raanta signs for less than expected it will probably more from a reality of good situation and low cost of living. But if someone goes stupid ala Carolina and Darling I'd say he's leaving. That is if it goes to July 1st.

 

[rt]

Maybe we see a Hammer extension coupled with, or following, an OEL extension.

I’m a little nervous about a Hjalmarsson extension TBH. Let’s see how his health holds up. I think he’ll fetch a fine return next deadline either way.

 

[_Del_]

We can't keep trading players that are playing well and have the potential Raanta does for late picks. Chayka Hedged with Kuemper and likely knows what it will take to sign Raanta. We will sign him at market value, I'm not worried about it, there won't be a bidding war.

Oh, I'd have preferred to resign him before the deadline instead of having us over a barrel in the land of sunshine and lollipops where getting closer to free agency opening somehow makes him more inclined to sign a favourable deal (for us). Extending Mueller is great on an island, but makes it even easier for Chayka to do something stupid in negotiating with Raanta's camp.

 

[Mosby]

Curious to see what that extension looks like. I wonder if he'd go short term. Like 9 over 2. Or 12 over 3.

(I'm referring to Hammer, not Raanta)

 

[Mosby]

“At the end of the season we’ll sit down and take a hard look at what we need to add and improve upon, but right now we have maximum flexibility and we have significant assets in order to go out and make some significant moves. That’s my goal and I’m going to be aggressive with it.” -- Chayka


Sounds like it could very similar to last year's draft.

 

[RemoAZ]

I don't like trading first round picks unless it's to make a cup run. Even if we have our usual luck in the lottery, I hope we don't do that again. Trading a top 10 pick when you're rebuilding doesn't make a lot of sense.

 

[AZviaNJ]

I read a lot about players and hometown discounts but have a really hard time coming up with a list of guys who have actually done it??

Shatty, but that was his true hometown.

 

[Jamieh]

Shatty, but that was his true hometown.

An offensive D man who cracked 50 points once in his career and can't play 5v5 gets paid $6.65 million per year and that's suggested as taking a hometown discount??? He has the 13th highest Cap hit for D men, where would you suggest he ranks??

 

[Sinurgy]

Seriously though there is a severe difference between Doan taking less after 15 plus years to stay somewhere vs Raanta taking less after 5 months.

Definitely but he did answer your question. Sounds like what you really meant to ask is are their any examples of players who have only been with a team for a noticeably short period of time yet still took a hometown discount. In that case I can't think of any.