Pre-Game Talk: The 2013-2014 Training Camp/Preseason Discussion Thread

[eco's bones]

Cam Talbot time?

 

[RangerBoy]

#NYR Told that Marty Biron, absent today for "personal reasons", will likely return soon, maybe as early as tomorrow

https://twitter.com/KatieStrangESPN/status/377822917733527552

 

[nevesis]

“@KatieStrangESPN: #NYR Told that Marty Biron, absent today for "personal reasons", will likely return soon, maybe as early as tomorrow”

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Pat Leonard ‏@PLeonardNYDN 8m
#NYR say Marty Biron (personal matter) is not here today. Johan Hedberg is here on a PTO (professional tryout). No update on future

 

[Vitto79]

Weird with Hedberg

are they maybe going to sign him dirt cheap say 600K(since the Devils are payinghim)

Then trade Biron for cap space? Maaaaaaaaaaybe?

 

[SingnBluesOnBroadway]

Weird with Hedberg

are they maybe going to sign him dirt cheap say 600K(since the Devils are payinghim)

Then trade Biron for cap space? Maaaaaaaaaaybe?

I think you're really reading too much into this.

 

[Levitate]

Remember that the Rangers had Petr Nedved in camp a few years ago.

Sometimes they just want some bodies in camp, sometimes they're doing a player a favor by giving him some time in camp and maybe another team wil be interested, etc.

 

[Clown Fiesta]

They are going to sign him knowing Hank won't be back and our goaltenders will be Biron and Hedberg next season, duh. Saves us a lot of money while not losing a Swede.

 

[Thirty One]

Weird with Hedberg

are they maybe going to sign him dirt cheap say 600K(since the Devils are payinghim)

Then trade Biron for cap space? Maaaaaaaaaaybe?

That would work in video game. In real life, why would another team take on Biron at $1.3M if Hedberg would sign for 600K?

 

[RangerBoy]

Vigneault says players have received shirts that read "Clean slate. Grab it." He wants all players to know they have a chance/opportunity

https://twitter.com/PLeonardNYDN/status/377830106024013824

AV (Vigneault) says new system will start to installed on Day 3 of camp. Special teams work begins on 9/18 after 1st two preseason games.

https://twitter.com/AGrossRecord/status/377830045391544321

Vigneault has spoken with Stepan at several points, says of course he and the org want him in camp ASAP

https://twitter.com/PLeonardNYDN/status/377830536154079232

AV did instruct Scott Arniel to watch last season's power play. Ulf Samuelsson reviewed the penalty kill.

https://twitter.com/AGrossRecord/status/377830784641802240

Did Arniel vomit?

 

[Thirty One]

Rangers have 66 players on camp roster.

Rick Nash 1
Brad Richards 2
Ryan McDonagh 3
Josh Nicholls 4
Michael St. Croix 5
Troy Donnay
Samuel Noreau 6
Tommy Hughes 7
Michael Kantor 8
Marc Staal 9
Carl Hagelin 10
Conor Allen 11
Derek Dorsett 12
Dylan McIlrath 13
J.T. Miller 14
Jesper Fast 15
Andrew Yogan 16
Oscar Lindberg 17
Marek Hrivik 18
Cam Talbot 19
Henrik Lundqvist 20
Ryan Callahan 21
Dan Girardi 22
Derick Brassard 23
Michael Del Zotto 24
Brian Boyle 25
Anton Stralman 26
Taylor Pyatt 27
Chris Kreider 28
Martin Biron 29
Benoit Pouliot 30
Danny Kristo 31
Mats Zuccarello 32
Darroll Powe 33
Dominic Moore 34
Arron Asham 35
Justin Falk 36
John Moore 37
Kyle Jean 38
Ryan Bourque 39
Stu Bickel 40
Jason Missiaen 41
Scott Stajcer 42
Brandon Mashinter 43
Micheal Haley 44
Aaron Johnson 45
Jason Wilson 46
Danny Syvret 47
Derek Stepan 48
Hedberg 49
Duclair 50
Skapsi 51
Spelling 52
Ryan Graves 53
Dodero (AHL) 54
Malcolm (AHL) 55
Oligny ? 56
Josh Graves ? 57
Leroux ? 58
Barnett ? 59
Wilson ? 60
Fanelli ? 61
Poti (PTO) ? 62
Nedved (PTO) ? 63
Semenov (PTO) ? 64
Redden (PTO) ? 65
Rucinsky (PTO) ? 66

Think I nailed it.

 

[GAGLine]

Does Slats have room to give Stepan 3 - 3.4m per?

We have the space.

CAPGEEK.COM USER GENERATED ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Chris Kreider ($1.325m) / Derek Stepan ($3.500m) / Rick Nash ($7.800m)
Benoit Pouliot ($1.300m) / Derick Brassard ($3.200m) / Mats Zuccarello ($1.150m)
Brian Boyle ($1.700m) / Brad Richards ($6.667m) / Derek Dorsett ($1.633m)
Taylor Pyatt ($1.550m) / Dominic Moore ($1.000m) / Arron Asham ($1.000m)
Carl Hagelin ($2.250m) / Ryan Callahan ($4.275m)
DEFENSEMEN
Ryan McDonagh ($4.700m) / Dan Girardi ($3.325m)
Marc Staal ($3.975m) / Michael Del Zotto ($2.550m)
John Moore ($0.965m) / Anton Stralman ($1.700m)
Justin Falk ($0.975m) /
GOALTENDERS
Henrik Lundqvist ($6.875m)
Martin Biron ($1.300m)
OTHER
Buried: Darroll Powe ($0.142m)
------
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,856,667; BONUSES: $762,500
CAP SPACE (23-man roster): $205,833

One of the kids could take Asham's and/or Pyatt's spot and save us a little money as well. When Cally and Hags are back, we can drop back down to 13 forwards. If they go on LTIR, then we will have even more flexibility and can bring up a couple extra bodies.

Lets say the cap is 60m, you have a salary cap payroll of 59m, and a player that makes 2m is injured and goes on LIT, that lets you go up 2m over the cap. If you bring in a player making 1m or more, you don't save up a single penny.

Actually, in that scenario, we could go up to 1 mil over the cap. But yes, we wouldn't be banking any cap dollars because LTIR space is use it or lose it.

 

[Thirty One]

Semenov not in camp per Patrick Kearns

 

[Clown Fiesta]

Poti lol.

 

[broadwayblue]

Poti lol.

effin nerd.

 

[Tawnos]

Well, already we see a difference in attitude between AV and Tortorella. Instead of hearing about how an RFA absent from camp needs to "learn to be a pro" we hear "it would be better if he was here" and "I reached out to him and told him we will welcome him when he comes"

 

[Thirty One]

Are no beat writers going to publish the camp roster for us? I know I got pretty close, but still...

 

[Trxjw]

Well, already we see a difference in attitude between AV and Tortorella. Instead of hearing about how an RFA absent from camp needs to "learn to be a pro" we hear "it would be better if he was here" and "I reached out to him and told him we will welcome him when he comes"

Yeah, that's definitely a big change.

 

[Kakko]

That would work in video game. In real life, why would another team take on Biron at $1.3M if Hedberg would sign for 600K?

Because Hedberg is really bad, and Biron is much better?

Though in that case, I'd want to keep Marty

 

[HatTrick Swayze]

When did Torts say that? Or is the narrative getting exaggerated again?

 

[Thirty One]

Because Hedberg is really bad, and Biron is much better?

Though in that case, I'd want to keep Marty

xactly.

 

[E-Train]

Are no beat writers going to publish the camp roster for us? I know I got pretty close, but still...

I don't get it. Everything's top secret this year. Seems like the Traverse City and camp rosters were available weeks in advance.

 

[Boom Boom Geoffrion*]

Weird with Hedberg

are they maybe going to sign him dirt cheap say 600K(since the Devils are payinghim)

Then trade Biron for cap space? Maaaaaaaaaaybe?

This trade-fetish of yours makes me chuckle.

Remember that the Rangers had Petr Nedved in camp a few years ago.

Sometimes they just want some bodies in camp, sometimes they're doing a player a favor by giving him some time in camp and maybe another team wil be interested, etc.

Yup. And sometimes, they stick around. (Fedotenko, Prospal, Stralman). (Might be mistaken if all three were PTO's though).

effin nerd.

That will never, ever get old.

 

[Kakko]

xactly.

We could play Hank 82 games

 

[Clown Fiesta]

When did Torts say that? Or is the narrative getting exaggerated again?

When Dubinsky held out, and no it isn't being exaggerated.