Blue Jays Discussion: That's it: Jays win, but don't get help from TB/WSH & are eliminated from playoff contention

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If a frigging scouting card on batter tendencies is so damn important, maybe they should find a better way for the catcher to secure it and keep it from the other team. And if the Blue Jays and Blue Jays fans are upset about this, shouldn't it be Kirk that they are mad at for allowing the card to fall into 'enemy' hands?
 
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So im guessing 95% chance atleast borucki gets suspended possibly walker too

The picking up and not returning the card is no different then stealing signs from second.

Its the integrity of the sport so yes the minute kk pocketed it and didnt return it . Thats on him and he's lucky it was borucki not nate or merryweather that plunked him
 
Is Borucki really to blame though? The ball was no longer in his possession when it hit Kiermaier. In Kiermaier's mind once Borucki no longer has it it belongs to him. Borucki was just speeding up the process of Kiermaier stealing things by just throwing the ball to him from the get go. Suddenly Kiermaier didn't want it.
 
The Jays should have left a catchers card at home plate on purpose that said exactly the same thing as the last one but for Kiermaier it should have said: "plunk him in the back". Let the Rays take it and do nothing else.
 
I'm surprised that Buck and Dan didn't support the Bluejays, I'm sure that it was intentional, but it would be very subjective to assume that and no one but the Bluejays knows.
 
First pitch to Lowe was a terrible strike call

Yankees getting favourable calls late in the game is nothing new


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We are playing Minnesota while Yankees and Sox beat each other up. Gotta take at least 3 of 4 in Minnesota. I think anything less will be disappointing. I think if Jays take 3 of 4 they will position themselves nicely in the wild card race no matter who wins between Boston and NYY.
 
its so awkward reading people in here defend KK's shit.

Why is it awkward to read people having a different opinion than you?

I wonder if the people who think Kiermaier is in the wrong would think George Springer was in the wrong if he did the same thing.
 
Why is it awkward to read people having a different opinion than you?

I wonder if the people who think Kiermaier is in the wrong would think George Springer was in the wrong if he did the same thing.
Wrong is wrong it doesn't matter who the player is.
 
I'm surprised that Buck and Dan didn't support the Bluejays, I'm sure that it was intentional, but it would be very subjective to assume that and no one but the Bluejays knows.

That’s because there was nothing to support.

I love the Jays, but, that was a cheap throw to KK in that sense. It was likely a combination of the card stealing fiasco plus the Rays pushing their shit in at that point in the game. Far be for me to agree with anything Buck says, but, he’s right when he said that plunk looked bad on the Jays.
 
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That’s because there was nothing to support.

I love the Jays, but, that was a cheap throw to KK in that sense. It was likely a combination of the card stealing fiasco plus the Rays pushing their shit in at that point in the game. Far be for me to agree with anything Buck says, but, he’s right when he said that plunk looked bad on the Jays.
I said that I was surprised because usually Buck is old school, in the past this incident would be expected and resolved with the hit batter and nothing more would be said. I guess Buck has evolved to a newer way of thinking, not that I personally agree with, but as Montoyo said that is aqua under the bridge.
 
KK can suck my **** I want the Jays to play those clowns over there so bad!!! Be careful what you wish for KK cause you might not like the outcome!!!
 
A very important next 7 games for Jays
Yanks and B's are at it this week. They can beat themselves out.

Jays need to win the series against Twins
 
Scotiabank arena will be at about 50% capacity for Leafs preseason games, I assume if the jays make the playoffs and have games in Toronto, that will be bumpoed up also
 
We are playing Minnesota while Yankees and Sox beat each other up. Gotta take at least 3 of 4 in Minnesota. I think anything less will be disappointing. I think if Jays take 3 of 4 they will position themselves nicely in the wild card race no matter who wins between Boston and NYY.

If the Jays can take 3 of 4 against the Twins, they're guaranteed to be at least tied for a Wild Card spot regardless of what happens in the Yankees-Sox series. Even though they're a half game out right now, they're in a pretty good spot to just get the job done on their own without having to count on other teams helping them get in.
 
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