Teams expecting suspensions as 2018 Hockey Canada investigation concludes (update 7/13) up to 8 players from Team Canada to be named

[Shocker]

Likewise, I can’t wait for the guys who were proud of hockey Canada’s coverup, the victim blaming and shaming, and let boys be boys crowd come out.

They're already among us, inventing delusions like people wanting them hanged and that there was no one saying that they're being cancelled for nothing.

 

[Sliptip]

Wonder how this actually will go. I have such a hard time imagining the big hammer coming down, but at the same time, will it even look like they cared at all if they go "hurr durr we suspended the involved for a couple games". Maybe the go hard on what is rumored to be the biggest perpetrator, since that player might not be an established NHLer atm. I don't know. My dystopian guess is they just pull some shit about keeping all names and punishments under the rug behind some fragile wall of not knowing the extent of each individuals involvement. It's the NHL after all, both the players and the fans are filled with degenerates.
At the same time, maybe the league and hockey Canada really feel like they need to make a stance for once, and actually go for the good look.

Likewise, I can’t wait for the guys who were proud of hockey Canada’s coverup, the victim blaming and shaming, and let boys be boys crowd come out.

Forgot the "aLleGedEdlY" crowd who think they actually are making a deep observation no one ever considered before.

There are a few tiers of players from that roster and it will be interesting to see if only the tweener types and depth players get thumbed in this or if the NHL would actually make a player with a bit of real success face the music as well.

Wondered about that too. Obviously don't know exactly which players would be involved, even though a couple seem likely for various reason, but are they willing to snap if it were to be one of the big boys? Would be a "good" tactic to try to leverage more on the borderline guys. That why I also feel like they might still go lowkey, since the depth guys are easier to just quietly sink.

 

[Canadienna]

Hard to do unless they can 100% confirm which players were there.

If they are not confident in the culpability of the players, then there really shouldn't be any punishment.

If they are confident in that, I would expect an indefinite suspension or contract termination and ban.

So I agree they may not have much evidence, but if that's the case the suspensions bit doesn't make much sense.

 

[Dust]

I would expect anyone named means their NHL career is basically over, regardless of the actual penalty that gets levied by the NHL. Teams aren't going to want to touch these guys with a 10 foot pole. These guy will be playing in the KHL if at all.

 

[Voight]

If they are not confident in the culpability of the players, then there really shouldn't be any punishment.

If they are confident in that, I would expect an indefinite suspension or contract termination and ban.

So I agree they may not have much evidence, but if that's the case the suspensions bit doesn't make much sense.

Its so they can claim accountability and say that the players learned their lesson (whether true or not).

 

[CycloneSweep]

Sexual assault is no joke but that would set a massive precedent for the league.

Craig MacTavish was allowed to continue playing, then coach, then GM in this league and he literally killed someone.

Complete ban was never going to happen and is a bit much.

The benefit with suspensions over complete bans is it allows the players to make amends show remorse etc.

However.

The difference is that MacTavish did a thing, didn’t attempt to cover it up, didn’t get help covering it up, did his time went to rehab etc and showed he was changed.

I am all for giving people a chance, but they gotta put in the work to earn it.

 

[Gregor Samsa]

I’m against 95% of cancel culture, but this is a rape we are talking about. Pretty heinous shit. The players involved should face serious repercussions

 

[My3Sons]

There is no indication that a potential victim desires for any perpetrators to go unpunished.

I said don’t release details to the public. Where did I say any perpetrator should escape appropriate sanctions both civil and criminal. This is a serious issue and punishment can be handed out without us knowing the specifics of who did what to who that frankly we shouldn’t be privy to.

 

[Jee]

Suspensions, heck I hope for prison.

Suspensions???

If the context is as bad as it sounds I'd hope for complete bans.

Complete bans? I'd hope for prison.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

I would expect anyone named means their NHL career is basically over, regardless of the actual penalty that gets levied by the NHL. Teams aren't going to want to touch these guys with a 10 foot pole. These guy will be playing in the KHL if at all.

I really hate that it is like this, but it depends on how good the player is.

There was a handful of teams interested in Voynov after he was banished to Russia.

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

I said don’t release details to the public. Where did I say any perpetrator should escape appropriate sanctions both civil and criminal. This is a serious issue and punishment can be handed out without us knowing the specifics of who did what to who that frankly we shouldn’t be privy to.

Why protect the identities of these guys? They aren’t covered by the YCJA

 

[My3Sons]

Why protect the identities of these guys? They aren’t covered by the YCJA

Again I said don’t release details of their specific actions. We will know who they are when they are suspended and perhaps sentenced. I never said hide their identities.

 

[Canadienna]

Its so they can claim accountability and say that the players learned their lesson (whether true or not).

Seems like a labour issue if they suspend players without explicit cause.

I guess we will soon see. I'm guessing if they are willing to suspend players it will be because they have some fairly solid evidence of wrongdoing.

 

[Tad Mikowsky]

Again I said don’t release details of their specific actions. We will know who they are when they are suspended and perhaps sentenced. I never said hide their identities.

When a person commits a crime, the details are usually revealed. Why hide those facts? I don’t really get your line of thinking here. Is it from a victims angle?

 

[WarriorofTime]

I would expect anyone named means their NHL career is basically over, regardless of the actual penalty that gets levied by the NHL. Teams aren't going to want to touch these guys with a 10 foot pole. These guy will be playing in the KHL if at all.

It all depends on the details. Any suspended player is going to need to release some sort of statement that goes beyond the initial statements that they all released when the incident first come to the forefront in the public spotlight.

 

[These Are The Days]

I'd be wary. Yeah we have a conclusion but it could be like, another 3 weeks before we know anything

 

[Bringer of Jollity]

I would expect anyone named means their NHL career is basically over, regardless of the actual penalty that gets levied by the NHL. Teams aren't going to want to touch these guys with a 10 foot pole. These guy will be playing in the KHL if at all.

I don't really have any confidence in this being the case. If a player is talented enough, there is always going to be a team that will be willing to give them a shot once the outcry has sufficiently died down.

 

[WarriorofTime]

I really hate that it is like this, but it depends on how good the player is.

There was a handful of teams interested in Voynov after he was banished to Russia.

I think Voynov got deported or voluntarily agreed to leave the country in lieu of deportation proceedings, even if some team wanted him, it's an immigration issue at this point. He's also making good money in the KHL on a good team and at 33 likely beyond his best years at this point.

 

[My3Sons]

When a person commits a crime, the details are usually revealed. Why hide those facts? I don’t really get your line of thinking here. Is it from a victims angle?

Yes. This has gotten so much publicity the poor girl will never live it down. The sentencing and suspensions will tell us enough about the culpable parties. I’d just like to see the actual victim have a chance to avoid reliving this for the rest of her life if that’s even possible anymore.

 

[miscs75]

Did they ever release an official list of players involved/potentially involved or is that all kept under wraps still?

 

[Sliptip]

I really hate that it is like this, but it depends on how good the player is.

There was a handful of teams interested in Voynov after he was banished to Russia.

I was gonna say, no shot any of the top 5-6 players from that roster don't play in the NHL within a couple years even if they were named and punished in some way(assuming we're not getting back into "real court" again).

Granted, those guys we're not involved in gangrape, but looks at some of the slimy f***s that keep getting NHL gigs, depsite not even being gamebreakers or close to it. The fact that they generally are cheaper just makes these front offices salivate more.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Seems like a labour issue if they suspend players without explicit cause.

I guess we will soon see. I'm guessing if they are willing to suspend players it will be because they have some fairly solid evidence of wrongdoing.

That's a CBA question. They can appeal any suspension of course, but the CBA likely gives pretty broad leeway to suspend players for conduct and from a PR standpoint, dragging this out further could be bad for them.

 

[Galaxydoggystyle]

I hope they all get life time bans if found guilty of what they did but knowing the NHL as being a bush league they will get a slap on the wrist(suspension regardless of length) and they will call it a day.

 

[WarriorofTime]

Did they ever release an official list of players involved/potentially involved or is that all kept under wraps still?

Well it's the Canada 2018 World Junior team, so that's easy to look up. But it's not everybody, just some subset of that.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

Probably be another month.

It's why I believe some players haven't received contracts, or been traded.

Once this is over I'm assuming you'll see these players moved, or brought back