I think Bertuzzi is vastly overrated and hasn't really won anything in his career, but the rest of the team I'm fine with.
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CBJFan22 said:
When you have so many talented players to choose from, it seems only fair to choose those that are currently playing the best at their positions, no?
I won't deny that Nash is one of the best in the game, but has done nothing this year due to injuries. Not his fault, but others have earned the right to represent their country by their play on the ice. Especially since they have international experience everywhere on this team, they should have included some of the young, new players that have truly earned the right.
It's not a slam on Nash. Other players have performed better this year even if that's only due to them being on the ice and he being the pressbox.
David
"TC doesn't like to go with young guys because they aren't proven to deliver under pressure situations. That's why no Spezz, Staal and Crosby."
Spezza is older than Nash. The only reason he hasn't played in any World Championships is because plays for a playoff contender.
Spezza is older than Nash. The only reason he hasn't played in any World Championships is because plays for a playoff contender.
I recognize the voice of the person who posed the Bertuzzi question. He does sportstalk on CKNW (Vancouver) on the weekends.
Westcoasthabsfan
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A_wildstabatanything said:
The reigning Rocket Richard trophy winner is overrated.... he plays for Columbus for crying out loud.....
Doomsday Device said:
Thornton has more points than Staal and Spezza, so it's the two best outside of Joe Thornton.
Greek_physique
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Only problem is Doan is a natural winger,
We need actually PKers, Draper brings that.
Foote is a great...I love Phaneuf, but he can wait his turn.
Staal will play if someone like Richards stumbles.
Jazz
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I agree, they will get some experience hanging around the team even if they don't get to play..Doomsday Device said:
SSJTOM said:
I would have picked Shanahan And Smyth(because you need wingers) over Doan and Smyth. But i would have put Spezza or Staal over Nash.
Heat McManus
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bure94 said:
Agreed about Draper. With that kind of fire power on your top 2 lines you should be able to put a defensive minded center in there. You do need to stop the other team from scoring from time to time. Not bad credentials either. 3 Cups with the Wings, well respected by other players so I hear. I remember hearing about him when I was real young and the big story on him was his ability to shut down the big lines at the WJC
Only pick I don't REALLY like is Bertuzzi... wanted to kinda like the players wearing the sweater, ya know.
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I'm not a fan of the Draper/Doan picks either, but hey, lets not be too quick to judge until we see how they do
Tap on the Ankle
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A great TEAM. Essentially, it's the same team that won the World Cup 15 months ago. Turco as the No. 3 goalie, over Belfour/Theodore, is the only change in net. Brewer is the only defenceman from the original eight for the 2004 World Cup not in this tournament. (And that's not a surprise). 11 of the forwards played at the World Cup. (Bertuzzi and Nash are the only players selected who didn't play in the World Cup.
Two minor surprises: Crosby was not selected to the taxi squad, and Nash made the big team. I expected Crosby to be on the taxi team, even though I don't think he's ready. He'll be good to go for the 2008 World Cup.
I thought Nash would be on the taxi squad, with Staal as the 13th forward. But he's a great selection none-the-less. Any doubters need to watch him dominate at the World Championships.
Draper-Doan-Smyth will be a dominant checking line. Say what you want about Draper and Doan. When they play for Canada, they take their play to another level. They (along with Maltby) shut down Forsberg in 2003. The DDT line was, for my money, Canada's best at the 2004 World Cup. You needs players like that to win a gold medal. They can't all be goal scorers, after all.
Two minor surprises: Crosby was not selected to the taxi squad, and Nash made the big team. I expected Crosby to be on the taxi team, even though I don't think he's ready. He'll be good to go for the 2008 World Cup.
I thought Nash would be on the taxi squad, with Staal as the 13th forward. But he's a great selection none-the-less. Any doubters need to watch him dominate at the World Championships.
Draper-Doan-Smyth will be a dominant checking line. Say what you want about Draper and Doan. When they play for Canada, they take their play to another level. They (along with Maltby) shut down Forsberg in 2003. The DDT line was, for my money, Canada's best at the 2004 World Cup. You needs players like that to win a gold medal. They can't all be goal scorers, after all.
bure94 said:
Bof, disagree. On international games, Thornton is all Draper can be and brings more.
Marleau could also do the job.
What a bad mentality to say we need a checking center... we need a few responsible defensive forwards, that's true. But with the amount of talent we got in the country, we can also pick those who are good at both.
Draper is the baddest choice they have made, and easily.
Spezza and Staal shouldn't have been taken ahead of Doan, Smyth, or Draper.
You need some grinders. You need some defensive conscience. You need some wingers.
You need some grinders. You need some defensive conscience. You need some wingers.
BobbyClarkeFan16
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It's a really good team. It's like what Bob Mackenzie said. Until Team Canada loses, then there should be no need to question what they've done. I'm just waiting to see all the Sidney Crosby marks come on here and talk about how Team Canada was wrong to leave Crosby off the team. I'm glad the whining little punk was left off.
God Bless Canada said:
Draper had problem following the play 15 months ago and it's not going to get better.
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drsingle said:
I dissagree. You take the players who give you the best chance to win in February. Not the ones who would have given you the best chance to win in November. Nash is one of the truly elite scorers in the world, whether people believe it yet or not. His injuries were a set back to his NHL season but have nothing to do with his ability to perform in Turin two months down the road. He deserves to be on this team and will be an impact player.
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Jazz
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I would disagre with "overrated". He's got lots of potential, but needs to mature some more... being on this team will help him in that respect.Vinnie said:
emmjayb said:
Why? Bertuzzi one of the top forwards in the game and has a body that can't be moved when he's in front of the opposing goaltender. Do you have a legitimate reason or are you just blindly jumping on the 'hater' bandwagon.
Heat McManus
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A_wildstabatanything said:
Rocket Richard on a team that couldn't feed him the puck. Kicked butaska at the World Championships. Had he not been injured this season I don't think his selection would be in question.
One slight possible omission: I know both Spezza and Staal are worthy of their spots on the taxi squad, but wouldn't it have paid to put a winger on there? 1 C, 1 W, 1 D?
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