Team Board Mock Draft Pick #17

[Holden Caufield]

I went with Barlow. I like the combo of goalscoring, leadership and 200 foot game. My first impulse was Heidt but Realgud had him ranked at 33. With Perreault only Button has him ranked in the top 20 so I took a pass here. Barlow seems solidly in the top 20 so that helped me make my decision.

Plenty of intrigue after Connor Bedard in Bob McKenzie's NHL Draft Lottery Edition ranking | TSN

Bob Mackenzie did a short draft lottery ‘preview’ list this month. Sort of a content buffer for his final list. It was just the top 12 players as rated by his NHL scout connections.

Perrault has moved all the way up to #9.
Mackenzie said he is a ‘viable candidate’ to go top 5.
People are taking note of his record breaking season.

I kind of think there is a weird Stigma with his size.
I expect he will measure only half of an inch shorter than Will Smith and maybe one inch shorter than Leonard at the combine. There might be a bit of a misconception that size is a major issue with him… he isn’t that short.

 

[Run the Jewels]

Stenberg, Hakan was pounding the table again.

Button compared him to Alex Killorn which has to appeal to Yzerman.

 

[Realgud]

I went with Barlow. I like the combo of goalscoring, leadership and 200 foot game. My first impulse was Heidt but Realgud had him ranked at 33. With Perreault only Button has him ranked in the top 20 so I took a pass here. Barlow seems solidly in the top 20 so that helped me make my decision.

Not my rankings haha but I get what you mean (it's Central Scouting's consolidated rankings)

 

[lilidk]

Yzerman will surprise this board by getting Sawchyn with #17 pick

 

[Run the Jewels]

Went Perreault but I'm surprised Heidt hasn't gotten any love. 17 too high?

Yes, unless there was a re-rank that his him firmly in the top 20.

 

[Run the Jewels]

Plenty of intrigue after Connor Bedard in Bob McKenzie's NHL Draft Lottery Edition ranking | TSN

Bob Mackenzie did a short draft lottery ‘preview’ list this month. Sort of a content buffer for his final list. It was just the top 12 players as rated by his NHL scout connections.

Perrault has moved all the way up to #9.
Mackenzie said he is a ‘viable candidate’ to go top 5.
People are taking note of his record breaking season.

I kind of think there is a weird Stigma with his size. I expect he will measure only half of an inch shorter than Will Smith and maybe one inch shorter than Leonard at the combine. I feel like there is a misconception that size is a major issue with him… he isn’t that short.

Thanks for sharing. How much do people think Perreault is benefitting from playing alongside Smith and Leonard? Is he scoring a bunch on the PP or is he getting a lot of those points at even strength?

His points are eye popping, but he seems to be playing a ton with guys who are both expected to go in the top 7 and have also put up huge point totals. I am legit interested in whether people think he is a key ingredient or whether he is benefitting from being on a dominant line?

 

[ZDH]

Yzerman will surprise this board by getting Sawchyn with #17 pick

Now that you said that I can totally see it.

 

[Konnan511]

As long as they aren't playing their junior hockey in NA, then I don't care who we get. Going Stenberg.

 

[Ulysses31]

swung on perreault, surprised many (non-vocal) barlow ppl in here, got the "safe pick" in reinbacher, time to swing for the fences, barlow would be 2nd choice, just dont see much upside, but high floor. barlow the next lapointe.

 

[lilidk]

Now that you said that I can totally see it.

Sarcasm?

 

[ZDH]

Sarcasm?

Nope, no sarcasm. I could see it. I really think they're gonna swing for a C with that 2nd first rounder.

Just scanned the draft lists and eliteprospects has him 13th in their March mock. A bunch have him in the 20s too.

 

[lilidk]

Nope. I could see it.

I believe he is playing today in memorial cup. He is one of those guys not going to be available with our second round

 

[ZDH]

I believe he is playing today in memorial cup. He is one of those guys not going to be available with our second round

Yea. Will be really interesting to see what thry do with those 3 consecutive 2nd round picks come draft day.

 

[Redwing66]

Could we not trade up into the 20s with our seconds to get another key center. I hate overdrafting when other great talent is there at 17. The way it falls we might better with a high end C/W and Willander at the 17 or a small trade up to get him.

 

[Frk It]

Disappointing for the lead up to both 9 and 17. But if this is what Detroit is stuck with, I'd probably go Barlow or Perreault.

Would not be disappointed at possibly getting Barlow, Perreault, or Sale at 17.

Otto Stenberg is the real deal. He 100% should be our pick at #17. Šale is too inconsistent and not Yzerman mold. I wholeheartedly believe Stenberg would be a top 10/15 pick in a normal draft year and will be a steal this year. Perrault is the sexy pick but I am not sure I see his game translating.

Edit: also wore the “C” for U18 WJC team Sweden. That goes a loooong way with Yzerman and crew.

Sale is inconsistebt and Stenberg isn’t? Stenberg only shows up for international tournaments.

I prefer a bunch of these forwards over Stenberg.

 

[RED WINGS STOMP]

The internet mocks and rumors of some players stock soaring into the top ten seem to be running rampant.

Hard to know what to believe right now.

 

[Barry Amsterdam]

Thanks for sharing. How much do people think Perreault is benefitting from playing alongside Smith and Leonard? Is he scoring a bunch on the PP or is he getting a lot of those points at even strength?

His points are eye popping, but he seems to be playing a ton with guys who are both expected to go in the top 7 and have also put up huge point totals. I am legit interested in whether people think he is a key ingredient or whether he is benefitting from being on a dominant line?

he outscored his own line mate leonard by almost 40 points.

 

[Run the Jewels]

he outscored his own line mate leonard by almost 40 points.

But then why is Leonard expected to be drafted ahead of him and why is he ranked higher by the vast majority of scouts? I am interested in your opinion, or the opinion of anyone who says we should draft Perreault, I just look at what people who do this regularly think and most of them seem to rank Leonard higher.

I am totally open to opposing viewpoints, just want to get a sense of what people like about Perreault. The huge amount of points is easy to like, but he's also playing on a line with two guys who are consistently ranked higher than him. The fact McKenzie says he's a riser is a great data point that has me thinking about him, but Bobby Mac also has Barlow at 11 so I don't feel like we are missing the boat by drafting him.

 

[Ulysses31]

Best case i could make for perreault is he has marner lvl everything (maybe a better shot) minus the mobility. So if he can learn to move better, i think he can (has nhl father), good chance(but not certain) he could be a ppg player.

Guy has uber silky mits, hes basically the anti-helm

 

[Gniwder]

he outscored his own line mate leonard by almost 40 points.

Not really following this draft much, but watching a few highlight videos, he's small and doesn't have a lot of speed. Quick release based on fast puck reflexes, but I didn't see a single shot where I said wow.

Considering his father played in the NHL, I'm sure he's gotten more skating coaching than most prospects. I don't see much upside to his skating, and that's a problem for smaller players.

But he surpassed Matthews for the single season USNTDP scoring record, so some team will take a chance on him early. Not sure I want that team to be the Wings, the team is too small, too slow, and too soft as it is.

 

[Realgud]

But then why is Leonard expected to be drafted ahead of him and why is he ranked higher by the vast majority of scouts? I am interested in your opinion, or the opinion of anyone who says we should draft Perreault, I just look at what people who do this regularly think and most of them seem to rank Leonard higher.

I am totally open to opposing viewpoints, just want to get a sense of what people like about Perreault. The huge amount of points is easy to like, but he's also playing on a line with two guys who are consistently ranked higher than him. The fact McKenzie says he's a riser is a great data point that has me thinking about him, but Bobby Mac also has Barlow at 11 so I don't feel like we are missing the boat by drafting him.

Perreault has incredible vision and passing. Super skilled. He is also a very good finisher. Leonard is stronger on the puck, gets involved in all 3 zones and drives the net and finishes plays up front a lot more often. He is also quite skilled.

Different types of players but it's easy to see why people think Leonard would translate immediately but some think Perreault has the highest potential and might take more time.

In my opinion, none of them are passengers.

 

[Hasbro]

Colby Barlow

Thanks everyone!

 

[Ed Ned and Leddy]

Reinbacher and Barlow would be a good haul, with three early day 2 picks on the way.

 

[Frk It]

Not really following this draft much, but watching a few highlight videos, he's small and doesn't have a lot of speed. Quick release based on fast puck reflexes, but I didn't see a single shot where I said wow.

Considering his father played in the NHL, I'm sure he's gotten more skating coaching than most prospects. I don't see much upside to his skating, and that's a problem for smaller players.

But he surpassed Matthews for the single season USNTDP scoring record, so some team will take a chance on him early. Not sure I want that team to be the Wings, the team is too small, too slow, and too soft as it is.

You think a kid who is 5’11 and 165 lbs is maxed out already? He could gain 20-25 lbs of muscle over the next few years.

He has a lot of room to grow physically and it could also help improve his skating. He has been able to be highly productive despite being less physically developed than most other players in this class. That’s not necessarily a bad thing.

You are not drafting a player 17th with no warts or flaws. It’s about what flaws or warts are you ok with. Perreault has massive upside and with some patience could be a big hit for someone.

 

[Run the Jewels]

Not really following this draft much, but watching a few highlight videos, he's small and doesn't have a lot of speed. Quick release based on fast puck reflexes, but I didn't see a single shot where I said wow.

Considering his father played in the NHL, I'm sure he's gotten more skating coaching than most prospects. I don't see much upside to his skating, and that's a problem for smaller players.

But he surpassed Matthews for the single season USNTDP scoring record, so some team will take a chance on him early. Not sure I want that team to be the Wings, the team is too small, too slow, and too soft as it is.

I think the thing about his father is a good point, he has been around pro level coaching and training from a very young age so I do wonder if he has maxed out his development earlier than his peers? I am not saying this is definitely the case, but I think there could be some truth there.