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Niagara Icedogs 2024-25 Season Thread, Part IV

knowescape said:
I think competitively there are far better teams out there who are more deserving of hosting the Memorial Cup. Niagara has the arena and the fan base, but given its history the IceDogs are far from a showcase team.

New owner, new brand... try for the next, next bid.
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Hopefully that's what they do. Trade the malcontents and stockpile picks like has never been seen before. He, Roobroeck and Edgar alone should net them a crazy amount of picks and set them up to be really good for years if done right.
 
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beastintheeast said:
I think there is a lot of room for this team to develop and get back to what it had before all this crap started.

As I have said the league is probably leary of a new owner. If the system and team are screwed up a neew owner is not going to make it better. Also the price is going to be based on the basement and DD maynot be able to get enough to pay the markers he has.

As to sponsorship, most of that does not depend on the owner, but it depends on the crowds and the on-ice product.

I can see a new GM coming in, no matter who it is, looking at this as a feather in their cap and the ability to develop a team that is already strong and has the power.

As to coaching, I still see a spot for Ben as the head coach. He knows the team, the players want to play for him, and it keeps their stars in Niagara. The new GM will have limits on Ben and be watching him. He is a rising star I think, in the coaching ranks.


DD tried it his way and failed. The league left him alone sort of and he did not grow. Therefore, they are going to step in and rebuild the team. He will have two choices: grow and learn, or not grow and learn, and have someone buy him out once the new team is functioning. BUT the new owners are going to be told that they can own the team but the GM will still be inlace and cannot be fired or undermined
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Where can I get a pair of those glasses you’re wearing?

As evidenced last year this team has no defence. They probably need 5 new d at least. There is no one capable of building a strong unit around. As for forwards, some good ones want out and others have to be moved to change chemistry. There are some bad apples on this team. Some of these players really don’t like each other.

Coaching? BB demonstrated he didn’t have these kids backs. They may like the ac’s but BB lost their confidence through his inactions. May know his X’s and O’s but not a leader. These aren’t young pro’s, they’re kids who you have to be able to communicate with and have trust in their coach.

Hopefully a new GM can establish a healthy, positive environment but this team needs more than just a hockey fix.
 
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Kingpin794 said:
Let's say by some miracle that DD sells the team over the summer. Team gets a respectable group to come in. Simpson is named GM and a decent coach is added. Would Niagara become a legit memorial cup host then? I'm sure the league would love to advertise the redemption arc story to go along with the location and venue.
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They'd have to outbid cities like London
 
Serious question .

Is there any hope for the Ice Dogs under their current ownership/management ?

Does this teamneed to be ripped down to become successful somewhere down the road ?
 
Millpond said:
Serious question .

Is there any hope for the Ice Dogs under their current ownership/management ?

Does this teamneed to be ripped down to become successful somewhere down the road ?
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Changing a culture starts at the top and trickles down.
I hate to be negative but i don't think there is a chance this team succeeds with the current owner.
 
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Millpond said:
Serious question .

Is there any hope for the Ice Dogs under their current ownership/management ?

Does this teamneed to be ripped down to become successful somewhere down the road ?
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I don’t think they can be successful with the current owner. Even if he stops interfering with the hockey staff, he is extremely cheap and won’t give them the budget necessary to become successful. The IceDogs have limited scouts (to reduce costs), won’t draft US players (American scholarships cost too much) and barely participate in the import draft (too expensive). I just don’t see it working.

Plus fans really dislike DD now and I think attendance and corporate sponsorships will suffer until a new owner is found.
 
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bigsportsfan said:
I don’t think they can be successful with the current owner. Even if he stops interfering with the hockey staff, he is extremely cheap and won’t give them the budget necessary to become successful. The IceDogs have limited scouts (to reduce costs), won’t draft US players (American scholarships cost too much) and barely participate in the import draft (too expensive). I just don’t see it working.

Plus fans really dislike DD now and I think attendance and corporate sponsorships will suffer until a new owner is found.
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I don’t know if sponsorship will suffer but agree with the rest
 
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dogs777 said:
I don’t know if sponsorship will suffer but agree with the rest
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You think anyone in the corporate world wants to align themselves with the IceDogs after their THIRD disgrace? The brand has become so sullied and controversial there is no way to save it now.

Tear the stickers off the wall, lose the mascot, change the name and get new colours. There's nothing worth saving.
 
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knowescape said:
You think anyone in the corporate world wants to align themselves with the IceDogs after their THIRD disgrace? The brand has become so sullied and controversial there is no way to save it now.

Tear the stickers off the wall, lose the mascot, change the name and get new colours. There's nothing worth saving.
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Before they look for a new owner they need to get a GM and front office that can run the team and make it a financial win for a GOOD OWNER
 
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With London Knights AGM Rob Simpson almost certain to be announced as the IceDogs’ new GM, Oshawa’s “hired gun” AC Mario Pouliot (2x Mem Cup champion) would be the perfect hire to form a dynamic OHL duo!

Two very expensive hires (in stark contrast to zero-cost Wes) but both with impressive junior hockey track records.
 
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Sam14 said:
With London Knights AGM Rob Simpson almost certain to be announced as the IceDogs’ new GM, Oshawa’s “hired gun” AC Mario Pouliot (2x Mem Cup champion) would be the perfect hire to form a dynamic OHL duo!

Two very expensive hires (in stark contrast to zero-cost Wes) but both with impressive junior hockey track records.
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Great! And then Sell The Team!
 
dogs777 said:
Not if the league were the ones who wanted him out
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there may end up being lawsuits against the current owner, the team and bb based on his interactions with at least 2 former employees. he wont be back.

look at why they had to hire a equipment manager half way through the year.
 
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