TDL wish list, who, what, how many?

[jaric1862]

Consevatively buy.
We need a RHD stay-at-home partner to play with Rielly.
We also need a bottom-6 C/LW who can can kill penalties, is reliable defensively and can play physical.

No trading 1st, Cowan, Minten to get these pieces.

 

[Evilhomer]

I am breaking balls.

 

[TMLBlueandWhite]

For years fans of other teams have made fun of Leafs fans.

Now I understand why. They're on to something. Some fans deserve what they get.

TDL is only 9 days away and most fans are happy with management's decision to stand pat.

Usually when you fire someone you replace them with somebody more competent. That hasn't happened here. What has happened is that one failure was shoved out the door.

For another failure with an even longer track record.

But somehow this organization has fooled the common fan into thinking they're doing a good job. I don't have any dignity myself so I'll continue to watch the games. But anyone who has a vested interest should be demanding more, a lot more, than seeing this team enter the playoffs without doing whatever they can to win a cup.

Other fans have every right to laugh at this team and those who support their every move.

 

[Evilhomer]

For years fans of other teams have made fun of Leafs fans.

Now I understand why. They're on to something. Some fans deserve what they get.

TDL is only 9 days away and most fans are happy with management's decision to stand pat.

Usually when you fire someone you replace them with somebody more competent. That hasn't happened here. What has happened is that one failure was shoved out the door.

For another failure with an even longer track record.

But somehow this organization has fooled the common fan into thinking they're doing a good job. I don't have any dignity myself so I'll continue to watch the games. But anyone who has a vested interest should be demanding more, a lot more, than seeing this team enter the playoffs without doing whatever they can to win a cup.

Other fans have every right to laugh at this team and those who support their every move.

As if I'm a "common fan"....

 

[GoonieFace]

For years fans of other teams have made fun of Leafs fans.

Now I understand why. They're on to something. Some fans deserve what they get.

TDL is only 9 days away and most fans are happy with management's decision to stand pat.

Usually when you fire someone you replace them with somebody more competent. That hasn't happened here. What has happened is that one failure was shoved out the door.

For another failure with an even longer track record.

But somehow this organization has fooled the common fan into thinking they're doing a good job. I don't have any dignity myself so I'll continue to watch the games. But anyone who has a vested interest should be demanding more, a lot more, than seeing this team enter the playoffs without doing whatever they can to win a cup.

Other fans have every right to laugh at this team and those who support their every move.

Maybe save this till after the deadline in case they don’t stand pat….i guess they add a D to play with Reilly, which is really all they need

 

[ACC1224]

For years fans of other teams have made fun of Leafs fans.

Now I understand why. They're on to something. Some fans deserve what they get.

TDL is only 9 days away and most fans are happy with management's decision to stand pat.

Usually when you fire someone you replace them with somebody more competent. That hasn't happened here. What has happened is that one failure was shoved out the door.

For another failure with an even longer track record.

But somehow this organization has fooled the common fan into thinking they're doing a good job. I don't have any dignity myself so I'll continue to watch the games. But anyone who has a vested interest should be demanding more, a lot more, than seeing this team enter the playoffs without doing whatever they can to win a cup.

Other fans have every right to laugh at this team and those who support their every move.

I can believe you're a fan that gets made fun of often.

 

[banks]

Consevatively buy.
We need a RHD stay-at-home partner to play with Rielly.
We also need a bottom-6 C/LW who can can kill penalties, is reliable defensively and can play physical.

No trading 1st, Cowan, Minten to get these pieces.

This is my preference, too.

This team's window is open. You can't just stand pat. This is the time to try and win in the playoffs.

But all-in doesn't feel right. After years of spending lots of picks on high-profile deadline additions, only to watch those players make little to no difference, they just can't keep spending that way.

We don't need to break the bank for Tanev or Hanifin. But how about Duclair or Erik Johnson? Someone cheap. Under the radar would be where I'd be looking.

 

[thusk]

i would to try find a depht player like they did with luke Schenn

a under to radar guy who can bring a similar type of game than Schenn.. Nick Seeler

yes i know philly is actually in a playoff spot but stay realistic, its still the team everyone thinking they was the worst NHL team before start of regular season. Tort did an amaizing job but their goal didn't change, its to continu their rebuild the right way.

 

[notdoneyet]

One tough clear the net drop the gloves defenseman
One tough physical drop the glove 3/4 liner
Won’t cost that much for both and we need two like that to beat Florida
If not Florida’s rats will run us out of the rink

 

[PROUD PAPA]

If they weren't remaining in the hunt for 3rd in the Metro I could see the Caps moving Edmundson(unfortunately an ld). He should be cheap and can help with the net front coverage and physicality in general.

 

[rumman]

Jason Robertson, Fraser Minten, Easton Cowan and a 3rd for Lawson Crouse and Matt Dumba.

Can never have enough toughness for the playoffs. Great for the future too as Crouse is a 26yr old power forward who can be counted on for 20 to 25 goals and play a physical game.

Crouse would be wonderful, Dumba not so much……

You said we'd take over 1st place from Boston in January, then you changed it to December when we went on a mini streak. Has the thought crossed your mind that you're underestimating Boston, or overestimating the Leafs, or perhaps both?

This…..

 

[Donnie740]

Crouse would be wonderful, Dumba not so much……

Agree 100% about Crouse - - love his game.

With Dumba on an expiring deal if the trade cost was cheap enough it’d be worth a try. Worst case scenario he plays on the 3rd pairing.

 

[Jojalu]

You said we'd take over 1st place from Boston in January, then you changed it to December when we went on a mini streak. Has the thought crossed your mind that you're underestimating Boston, or overestimating the Leafs, or perhaps both?

I don't know...

If Tor happens to take over both Florida and Boston by the end of the year, I might have to rethink my life.

Possibly become an @Evilhomer disciple.

His unwavering faith is inspirational.

 

[ACC1224]

I don't know...

If Tor happens to take over both Florida and Boston by the end of the year, I might have to rethink my life.

Possibly become an @Evilhomer disciple.

His unwavering faith is inspirational.

Seems like a bit of an act, no?

 

[Jojalu]

Seems like a bit of an act, no?

It could very well be.

Although sometimes I roll my eyes, I never really grow tired of it.

 

[Evilhomer]

I don't know...

If Tor happens to take over both Florida and Boston by the end of the year, I might have to rethink my life.

Possibly become an @Evilhomer disciple.

His unwavering faith is inspirational.

Most of you over-think all of this, and the fear of the anvil falling on your collective heads is so strong (and I understand why) that it stops people from seeing the bigger picture. Boston is the best example of this. Everyone remembers them as the boogeyman of years past, just as Tampa once was, but just as Tampa no longer is, neither is this iteration of the Bruins. Now, maybe Florida is the new boogeyman. We'll find out. But the idea of sitting around expecting the worst to happen despite having no recent evidence of the worst coming is a very Toronto (and frankly Canadian) mindset.

My personal favourite, and I understand that it is common to most sports fans, is the idea of a "jinx". That one cracks me up.

Seems like a bit of an act, no?

I won't lie and say that sometimes I don't exaggerate for effect, but I think it's more that I don't waste a lot of energy worrying or being negative, especially without tangible evidence to feel that way. I think people would be shocked at how much they can accomplish, and how successful they can be, by simply having a near-aggressive positive approach to things.

 

[Jojalu]

Most of you over-think all of this, and the fear of the anvil falling on your collective heads is so strong (and I understand why) that it stops people from seeing the bigger picture. Boston is the best example of this. Everyone remembers them as the boogeyman of years past, just as Tampa once was, but just as Tampa no longer is, neither is this iteration of the Bruins. Now, maybe Florida is the new boogeyman. We'll find out. But the idea of sitting around expecting the worst to happen despite having no recent evidence of the worst coming is a very Toronto (and frankly Canadian) mindset.

I can see that from a sports perspective maybe.

But that's what happens when your team lets you down year after year.

So yes, I go into every year hoping the Leafs and Bills will win it all. I look for signs that show it's possible, then accept the inevitable end result of coming up short

 

[Evilhomer]

I can see that from a sports perspective maybe.

But that's what happens when your team lets you down year after year.

So yes, I go into every year hoping the Leafs and Bills will win it all. I look for signs that show it's possible, then accept the inevitable end result of coming up short

In almost every case it's because you had unreasonable expectations of the outcome. The Leafs are a great example of this. Yes, they lost 7 years in a row in the first round (or whatever the number was), but the reality was that for all but maybe one or two of those years the probability of winning was actually not that high. The Leafs should not have won any of those Boston series, despite the 4-1 third period lead. They absolutely should have beat Montreal during the COVID year, but even the Columbus series was hardly a sure thing given how poorly the Leafs had played leading in to the league being shut down.

What I see this season is a team that is objectively more skilled than probably every other team in the Eastern conference. That doesn't mean there aren't deficiencies, but fans here tend to elevate the Leafs' deficiencies and minimize the deficiencies of other teams (Boston being the absolute best example of that mindset right now), because negativity is always more comforting than positivity. That is how our brains are wired. Sports fans the world over, for any team, generally always expect the worst.

 

[Gary Nylund]

I don't know...

If Tor happens to take over both Florida and Boston by the end of the year, I might have to rethink my life.

Possibly become an @Evilhomer disciple.

His unwavering faith is inspirational.

I was going to say if that happens, I might also become a disciple. Then I decided that if something happens in March/April that he predicted would happen in December isn't really the least bit impressive.

In almost every case it's because you had unreasonable expectations of the outcome. The Leafs are a great example of this. Yes, they lost 7 years in a row in the first round (or whatever the number was), but the reality was that for all but maybe one or two of those years the probability of winning was actually not that high. The Leafs should not have won any of those Boston series, despite the 4-1 third period lead. They absolutely should have beat Montreal during the COVID year, but even the Columbus series was hardly a sure thing given how poorly the Leafs had played leading in to the league being shut down.

What I see this season is a team that is objectively more skilled than probably every other team in the Eastern conference. That doesn't mean there aren't deficiencies, but fans here tend to elevate the Leafs' deficiencies and minimize the deficiencies of other teams (Boston being the absolute best example of that mindset right now), because negativity is always more comforting than positivity. That is how our brains are wired. Sports fans the world over, for any team, generally always expect the worst.

You mean like when you predicted the Leafs would take over first in January, then December?

 

[ACC1224]

Most of you over-think all of this, and the fear of the anvil falling on your collective heads is so strong (and I understand why) that it stops people from seeing the bigger picture. Boston is the best example of this. Everyone remembers them as the boogeyman of years past, just as Tampa once was, but just as Tampa no longer is, neither is this iteration of the Bruins. Now, maybe Florida is the new boogeyman. We'll find out. But the idea of sitting around expecting the worst to happen despite having no recent evidence of the worst coming is a very Toronto (and frankly Canadian) mindset.

My personal favourite, and I understand that it is common to most sports fans, is the idea of a "jinx". That one cracks me up.


I won't lie and say that sometimes I don't exaggerate for effect, but I think it's more that I don't waste a lot of energy worrying or being negative, especially without tangible evidence to feel that way. I think people would be shocked at how much they can accomplish, and how successful they can be, by simply having a near-aggressive positive approach to things.

Yeah, I think a lot feel that way about the Marner Hate Club.
Bunch of Eeyores, must have pretty miserable lives.

 

[Evilhomer]

You mean like when you predicted the Leafs would take over first in January, then December?

Yeah, I've said a hundred times I was incorrect about that timing. If you want more examples of my inability to correctly time things, just have a look at my stock portfolio....

 

[Jojalu]

In almost every case it's because you had unreasonable expectations of the outcome. The Leafs are a great example of this. Yes, they lost 7 years in a row in the first round (or whatever the number was), but the reality was that for all but maybe one or two of those years the probability of winning was actually not that high. The Leafs should not have won any of those Boston series, despite the 4-1 third period lead. They absolutely should have beat Montreal during the COVID year, but even the Columbus series was hardly a sure thing given how poorly the Leafs had played leading in to the league being shut down.

What I see this season is a team that is objectively more skilled than probably every other team in the Eastern conference. That doesn't mean there aren't deficiencies, but fans here tend to elevate the Leafs' deficiencies and minimize the deficiencies of other teams (Boston being the absolute best example of that mindset right now), because negativity is always more comforting than positivity. That is how our brains are wired. Sports fans the world over, for any team, generally always expect the worst.

The easiest way to never be disappointed in life is to have zero expectations for anything, or anyone.

But I am not just talking about the past seven years, which they still should have won the first round a couple of times.

We are closing in on 60 years. They have had a handful of good runs, yet have never even made a SCF.

Of course, a lot of those years the teams were terrible and never had a hope in winning, but there is no denying that this group has underachieved a little bit. Starting from Shanahan, right down to the bottom.

I can find the brightside of almost everything, and everyone. I understand the odds of winning are crazy low, and I have enjoyed watching this team play over the past 7 years. Feeling jaded, or burned by them is fine as long as it doesn't consume you.

 

[Gary Nylund]

Yeah, I've said a hundred times I was incorrect about that timing. If you want more examples of my inability to correctly time things, just have a look at my stock portfolio....

Isn't there some old wisdom that says don't try to time the market?

 

[GoonieFace]

Yeah, I think a lot feel that way about the Marner Hate Club.
Bunch of Eeyores, must have pretty miserable lives.

Not a Marner thread, but yet you somehow need to carry your obsession where ever you go. Who’s miserable exactly?

 

[Gary Nylund]

Yeah, I think a lot feel that way about the Marner Hate Club.
Bunch of Eeyores, must have pretty miserable lives.

This Marner hate club exists only in your imagination, don't be such a snowflake.

Your daily whining about what people post about Marner suggests that the only one miserable around here is you. Cheer up man, he's just one player on a hockey team, neither is of great importance in the big picture.

Not a Marner thread, but yet you somehow need to carry your obsession where ever you go. Who’s miserable exactly?

Well said! I think you expressed my thoughts better than I did.