Confirmed Trade: [TBL/SEA/DET] Y. Gourde (75% ret.), O. Bjorkstrand, K. Aucoin, 2026 5th to TBL; M. Eyssimont, 2026 1st, 2027 1st, 2025 2nd to SEA; 2025 4th to DET

[HabsQC]

I like JBB I wish we hired him instead of Marc Bergevin back in the days.

 

[SympathyForTheDevils]

I mean, picks for us aren't really about drafting players. They've just been trade capital for about 5 or 7 years now. So the only risk in spending too many picks on one player is you won't have enough to spend on some other player, should he become available.

That's what made the jeannot trade so bad. Wasn't about losing prospects. In this trade, we get two assets, one of whom is proven in Seattle and one of whom is proven under Cooper. Expecting Gourde to have a McDonagh like return to prominence is probably expecting too much. But it feels like we spent the assets on the players we wanted here, and still have prospects to trade if the need arises next year, plus more picks. These players solidify weaknesses for us, and leave us with very few weaknesses remaining.

Did we overpay? Sure. Does it make sense in our situation? Absolutely.

Sure, there's no point in using your picks to draft players who won't be able to contribute for another 5 years, at which point Tampa's D will likely prevent them from contending.

I don't care too much about the idea of "overpayment" in a vacuum. The question is, could Brisebois have used those assets to make a bigger improvement to the team? I'm not so sure: getting two good middle-6 guys who fit under the cap was always gonna be expensive. Though I do wonder if he should have targeted players with more size. That top 9 is amazing... but it's damn small.

 

[Sota Popinski]

First round picks are not an overpayment when we draft and develop players better then anyone in the league and not when your keeping a window open to win cups.

If they draft and develop players so well, why did they need to bring in Guentzel, Hagel, McDonagh, Jeannot, Paul, etc?

 

[The Flying Octopus]

- tbay improving just adds more fuel to my fire for detroit not buying anything
- and i know a 4th isnt very valuable but it makes the fun of draft day funner , plus can be added to several other pix to move up

no, its just another kick in the kahunas by Yzerman. I am starting to think he is handcuffed by Chris Illitch not wanting to spend money and keep the bottom line cozy.

 

[dirtydanglez]

i love that tampa keeps going for it. brisbois is a top tier gm

 

[quackquackquack]

batshit levels of insane overpay but good on tampa for pushing the chips in

 

[Hint1k]

To me it looks more like one 1st pick for this year of Bjorkstrand and another 1st for another year of his contract. Whatever else left is for retained Gourde.

 

[izzy]

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If they draft and develop players so well, why did they need to bring in Guentzel, Cirelli, Hagel, McDonagh, Paul, etc?

why did a top team need to trade for players? weird question…

also google cirelli

 

[bossram]

Sure, there's no point in using your picks to draft players who won't be able to contribute for another 5 years, at which point Tampa's D will likely prevent them from contending.

I don't care too much about the idea of "overpayment" in a vacuum. The question is, could Brisebois have used those assets to make a bigger improvement to the team? I'm not so sure: getting two good middle-6 guys who fit under the cap was always gonna be expensive. Though I do wonder if he should have targeted players with more size. That top 9 is amazing... but it's damn small.

I rate Bjorkstrand as a very clear top-six guy. He's been chronically underrated his whole career.

Size with Gourde is far from an issue. He's a warrior and plays with a ton of edge. I think TB of all teams know what they can get from him.

The picks are immaterial to TB. Hedman is 34. Their window is right now. Could they have gotten better pieces with the 1st +1st +2nd? Maybe? But I rate the guys they acquired very highly.

 

[Sota Popinski]

why did a top team need to trade for players? weird question…

also google cirelli

Sorry, throw in Jeannot then.

They have traded for far more players over the past decade than ones they drafted and developed

 

[bossram]

batshit levels of insane overpay but good on tampa for pushing the chips in

It's a high cost, but the market this TDL is heavily tilted for sellers.

Nyquist, having a miserable season, returned a second.

I'd rather pay the price for Bjorkstrand and Gourde than a 2nd for Nyquist.

 

[DFC]

Sure, there's no point in using your picks to draft players who won't be able to contribute for another 5 years, at which point Tampa's D will likely prevent them from contending.

I don't care too much about the idea of "overpayment" in a vacuum. The question is, could Brisebois have used those assets to make a bigger improvement to the team? I'm not so sure: getting two good middle-6 guys who fit under the cap was always gonna be expensive. Though I do wonder if he should have targeted players with more size. That top 9 is amazing... but it's damn small.

Agreed that it would he nice to get a little bigger, but really that ship might have sailed. But yeah, in general, I don't know that we could have addressed our depth issue better than this. We went from a really top-heavy team to a pretty well balanced team in one move.

I think we really, really wanted Tuch. But I don't think Buffalo has any interest in moving him.

 

[JTToilinginToronto]

God damn, Seattle cooked them bad. Horrific trade from Tampa.

 

[theVladiator]

Totally lame return for Detroit. Yay. A 4th to help a divisional rival get better when they’re clinging to playoff hopes by their fingernails.

Tampa was getting this done with or without us. Would you feel better if somebody else retained and Detroit was left empty handed?

 

[LPHabsFan]

This trade is not going to age well, though it's pretty bad already. When Brisebois is fired within the next year or two, this trade is going to be the one that is cited the most as to why.

 

[CupsOverCash]

That's also code for "I won't be here to clean it up when the ship is sinking"

Hard to criticize too much when it's worked for them in the past.

 

[Master P]

 

[Hansen]

As a Canucks fan I'd trade that for 2 cups every single time. And they still might win another.

 

[bleuetbio]

TB get some interesting player. I think they didnt draft enough and thats why they're now more a middle. JBB screw theur way to be a dynasty when they got all the basics elements in the structure. This GM is a way overated

 

[Master P]

As a Canucks fan I'd trade that for 2 cups every single time. And they still might win another.

Yeah, I think thats pretty much JBB's philosophy.

If you have star players and your core is still good, do whatever it takes to win now.

 

[CupsOverCash]

Would you want this and cup runs which translated into 2 cups and 3 finals in a row or keep these draft picks and maybe you get it?

 

[Donnie740]

batshit levels of insane overpay but good on tampa for pushing the chips in

This is a ridiculous overpay.

I can’t believe the delusional thought process of Tampa - - “hey he was good for us five years ago, let’s bring him back for another go-round”

Between Tampa and Florida, there’s going to be at least one extreme case of buyers remorse a few months from now.

 

[PanniniClaus]

As Tony Montana always said, "the only thing that gets big trades done, is balls".

 

[GirardSpinorama]

Fo

Would you want this and cup runs which translated into 2 cups and 3 finals in a row or keep these draft picks and maybe you get it?

To be fair, the cup wins came before most of those picks were traded away.

 

[MarkusNaslund19]

Vote different.

Lol sure. Lord knows the number one problem facing the world right now is that 'job creators' (myth) aren't getting enough tax breaks.