Except it's not the worst thing in a vacuum. When you look at the vital players we lost yesterday and who we replaced them with, it is somewhat team "crippling."
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Except it's not the worst thing in a vacuum. When you look at the vital players we lost yesterday and who we replaced them with, it is somewhat team "crippling."
The only thing that bothers me is that Boyle signed for 2 mill and that's only a 600k difference from Glass.
With 14.6 mill left to sign just 4 players, and if we break it down like this:
Brassard and Zucc, worth case, sign for 4.5 each - 9 mill (5.6 left)
Kreider signs for 2.5, worst case - 3.1 left
John Moore signs for 1.5, worst case - 1.6 mill left
We'd have 1 mill left if we substitute Glass out for Boyle and his 2 mill contract.
Shame.
With 14.6 mill left to sign just 4 players, and if we break it down like this:
Brassard and Zucc, worth case, sign for 4.5 each - 9 mill (5.6 left)
Kreider signs for 2.5, worst case - 3.1 left
John Moore signs for 1.5, worst case - 1.6 mill left
We'd have 1 mill left if we substitute Glass out for Boyle and his 2 mill contract.
Shame.
I love how you can discount what players and coaches say. Really? As much as some people would like to think there's no place in hockey for the enforcer, they'd be wrong. In 2011 the Sabres season went into a tailspin when Lucic nailed Miller and no Buffalo player came to Miller's defense. Besides getting a concussion, that incident stayed with the whole team for a long time. And deterring teams from running Henrik is fine by me.
On top of that, Glass hits people, which is something we severely lacked in the Stanley Cup Finals. And when he hits people, they feel it and that has an effect on games. Now, I'm NOT trying to tell you that Tanner Glass is going to win us the Cup but I do think he brings something to this team that was lacking with his physical play.
And on top of all that, the belly-aching about his signing is unjustified. Signing Glass didn't cost the Rangers Boyle. They didn't want Boyle back at the price he was looking for, and weren't giving him the role he wanted. The two are linked because they might have paid him more if they expected him to have a greater role.
If Glass' contract becomes an issue, they can send him to the minors and not be affected by most of his salary, or trade him.
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Because Sather has been a proponent of enforcers long before Gorton joined the Rangers in 2007. It's a position he has always valued, from Semenko and McSorley to Purinton and Oliwa to Brashear and Boogaard, etc. When McSorley was on trial for slashing Brashear in the head, Sather testified on McSorley's behalf and defended the enforcer role in hockey.
So while Gorton may be on board with the signing of Glass, I have little doubt that Sather is the impetus behind it based on his track record.
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Pouliot, Boyle and Stralman played 318 games together last season and scored a combined 23 goals. Dan Boyle alone scored 12 last season.
Pouliot: 15-21-36
B. Boyle: 6-12-18
Stralman: 1-12-13
Total: 23-45-68
Glass: 4-9-13
Miller: 8-8-16 (based on 3-3-6 in 30 games)
D. Boyle: 12-24-36
Total: 24-41-65
It's just stats and probably doesn't mean anything, but it's not like we're replacing top6 forwards with these guys.
In that analysis, have they replaced Poo? And is Carcillo signed, or do they still need another fourth liner?
Yawn....
If I was responding to you I would've quoted you. I never said you said anything.
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THANK YOU! The constant crying from this fan base is mind boggling. We are replacing two waiver wire caliber players (before they came to NY) and a 4th liner with players who (at the very least) will provide very similar production and somehow the sky is falling. If Pouliot and Stralman are so good, its a direct reflection on this coaching staff, who brought out the best in them. If AV helped transform Pouliot into a 4 million a year player, I have total faith in the guy to do the same with the replacements.
The sky is not falling. We were at best the 5th best team in the East last year and we made it to the Finals. I don't see us being any worse. There is always the deadline to shore up the D if need be.
Relax.
Doesn't matter what they were before they came to New York. they were not waiver wire caliber players for us.
If you're saying Glass will provide what we got from Boyle...
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Miamipuck
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Hahahah thanks. I think I was a bit too sarcastic to you before, sorry I can't help myself.
no problem. I understand your point though and I agree with your point (about the fourth line). I just think right now the roster is still a work in progress and they have more moves/signings needed and they have numbers in their head for each position, and have sights set on people, perhaps even through trades, we don't know about (a few spots still need to be filled). I haven't seen Glass much. I admitted that. I'm just looking at it as them needing a left winger, wanting one with speed and size, and this is a guy AV knew. I'm giving a benefit of the doubt since I don't know the guy well, and people here have seemed to be in love/trusted AV. I'm waiting for the whole body of work still. I loved this team's fourth line and how it played. I'm not looking at it as Glass in for Boyle now. If the team looks stupid come training camp and there is $750k left in cap space, I may then scratch my head a bit.
Miamipuck
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Yes I agree, in the larger scheme Sather is going to make a few moves to either free up space or improve the team, you would think he has too. Unless of course he thinks the kids (Miller, Fast, Kristo etc.) are going to fill the void.
Glass better be tremendous for us on the kill or else this is a terrible sign. You can find grit from a 4th line winger for under $1m ie carcillo. Have to let him play a game in a rangers jersey before i say its a terrible move but all signs pointing in the wrong direction.
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Eh, I think this move screams AV - he was essentially a coach's pet type in Vancouver when AV was there (Pittsburgh, too, for that matter). And I expect him to be that here, unfortunately.
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Boyle wasn't coming back to the Rangers because he wanted a bigger role in the team.
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It's probably both - the decision to have an enforcer on the roster in the first place is on Slats. He's always felt an enforcer is a necessary position even though its importance in the league is diminishing. But when it came down to choosing who that enforcer would be, that's where AV's input was used in selecting Glass.
Who can blame him? We obviously lost to the Kings in the finals because of all those fights we lost in that series....
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