Confirmed with Link: Tanner Glass signs with Rangers for 3 years @ 1.45 million/season

[Zil]

Glass hits and he can win a fight. Two things the Rangers were lacking last season.

Glass had twice as many hits as Boyle and Dorsett combined.

Glass had 247 hits in 789 minutes of icetime.

Boyle and Dorsett had 256 hits in 1,608 minutes.

Of course he racks up hits. His team never has the puck when he's on the ice.

We made the Stanley Cup Final last year without any face punching ability. That's because face punching is completely and utterly worthless when it comes to winning hockey games, regardless of what players and coaches may say about how it makes them feel.

 

[TheTakedown]

I have a funny feeling that dorsett was dealt not just for the pick but it also made negotiating Glass and Moore easier.... Dorsett made more money than Moore and Glass... By sending him away Moore now makes the most money on the 4th line.. Not only gives Moore security, but also some command of that line in terms of salary

 

[BlueshirtBlitz]

I just can't fathom how Sather thought it was a good idea to pick up the phone and throw 4.5 million dollars to this dude.

Literally baffled. If he was making the minimum, i'd be disappointed because I think enforcers are ****ing stupid...but this contract is actually detrimental to the team. It's crazy.

 

[Zil]

I just can't fathom how Sather thought it was a good idea to pick up the phone and throw 4.5 million dollars to this dude.

Literally baffled. If he was making the minimum, i'd be disappointed because I think enforcers are ****ing stupid...but this contract is actually detrimental to the team. It's crazy.

It's the combination of cap hit and term that make it a true masterpiece of what-the-****ery. They went to three years to land this bum. Three years.

 

[Wamsutta]

Stone age face punching garbage hockey has been left behind by the NHL, but Sather once a year will go out and sign a guy just to punch people. Glen Sather rules.

 

[Rangers ftw]

Can't believe we let Boyle go and sign this.

 

[jerseyjinx94]

People are ripping Sather for this. I thought Gorton was the one "really in control?"

Why is this a Sather move and not a Gorton move?

Also, Glass played for AV. I'm assuming 1. AV knew enough about him to give input, 2. They probably spoke to Bylsma about him.

Furthermore, Glass seems like a terrible move because of term, that I agree. 1.45M is fine but for 3 years? 1 year would have sufficed. He wasn't getting that anywhere. However, I've decided to give it a shot. Maybe AV knows something. Glass is **** on pretty bad on HF, but for all intents and purposes, he can PK, is an intelligent player, and a team player. 3 attributes we need.

This isn't about "letting Boyle go." Boyle wasn't coming back. I do agree that Boyle --> Glass is a major downgrade, but it's not as simple as a decision to let Boyle go and sign Glass.

 

[OverTheCap]

Offensively, Glass is more of a black hole than Dorsett or Boyle (or Carcillo, but we'll see what happens with him). One of the good things about last season's 4th line is that they were able to score some key goals for us, both in the regular season and the playoffs. The addition of Glass now compromises their ability to do so.

Glass appears to be an upgrade in the hitting/fighting department and a downgrade everywhere else. Just a baffling acquisition.. but Sather loooves his enforcers, and AV's familiarity with Glass probably made it even more appealing to Slats.

 

[jerseyjinx94]

Offensively, Glass is more of a black hole than Dorsett or Boyle (or Carcillo, but we'll see what happens with him). One of the good things about last season's 4th line is that they were able to score some key goals for us, both in the regular season and the playoffs. The addition of Glass now compromises their ability to do so.

Glass appears to be an upgrade in the hitting/fighting department and a downgrade everywhere else. Just a baffling acquisition.. but Sather loooves his enforcers, and AV's familiarity with Glass probably made it even more appealing to Slats.

Why isn't this a Gorton move?

 

[Miamipuck]

Why isn't this a Gorton move?

It's more of an AV move. He probably has more cache plus they're losing some core leadership. They threw him a bone.

I don't like this signing but I am looking at the bright side, if one of the kids look good in training camp this slug isn't taking their spot.

 

[Ail]

Why isn't this a Gorton move?

It's a management move and they're all ****ing stupid, coaches included, for allowing this to happen.

Just when you think they're past this stupidity.

 

[Ail]

Also, I'm all for kids earning their spot, but it does take a 3 year contract to give them competition this year.

 

[Fletch]

I haven't seen much of Glass, but it's weird reading such negativity about a fourth liner. Most of what I can get about him is online, because I didn't watch all the Pens games and also didn't pay much attention to guys like Glass. But first, we are talking about a fourth liner. Second, a three year contract for a fourth liner isn't the end of the world. He won't be old and over the hill in year three and paying $1.45MM may not be paying $1.0MM, but it's not $2.5MM either. I see he's an offensive black hole compared to Dorsett and Carcillo. He seems comparable to both offensively. Dorsett with the edge due to history. He is more of a penalty killer than both. He's a left winger, and lefty shot. Yea, he's replacing Boyle, but is not as good, but Boyle would have cost $1+ million more and the team doesn't have that luxury. He's a guy you put out there and hope he can change the pace of a game. Go out and hit. Cause turnovers. And with Moore, hopefully get some chances with those turnovers. I don't know. Is there someone else who could have been better? And for what cost? He's a 12 minute/game fourth liner, not a 7 minute per game fourth liner. That's what this team needs. Again, not as good as Boyle, but Boyle doesn't want to be in that role any longer. Boyle wants to replace Zucc, Poo or Hagelin. And the icing on the cake is he did play with AV, and so many are enamored with him - trust him, no?

 

[Miamipuck]

I haven't seen much of Glass, but it's weird reading such negativity about a fourth liner. Most of what I can get about him is online, because I didn't watch all the Pens games and also didn't pay much attention to guys like Glass. But first, we are talking about a fourth liner. Second, a three year contract for a fourth liner isn't the end of the world. He won't be old and over the hill in year three and paying $1.45MM may not be paying $1.0MM, but it's not $2.5MM either. I see he's an offensive black hole compared to Dorsett and Carcillo. He seems comparable to both offensively. Dorsett with the edge due to history. He is more of a penalty killer than both. He's a left winger, and lefty shot. Yea, he's replacing Boyle, but is not as good, but Boyle would have cost $1+ million more and the team doesn't have that luxury. He's a guy you put out there and hope he can change the pace of a game. Go out and hit. Cause turnovers. And with Moore, hopefully get some chances with those turnovers. I don't know. Is there someone else who could have been better? And for what cost? He's a 12 minute/game fourth liner, not a 7 minute per game fourth liner. That's what this team needs. Again, not as good as Boyle, but Boyle doesn't want to be in that role any longer. Boyle wants to replace Zucc, Poo or Hagelin. And the icing on the cake is he did play with AV, and so many are enamored with him - trust him, no?

Again, the Rangers depth particularly the fourth line, was integral to the Stanley Cup Run. It's why many posters are not liking this pick up. It's not making the Rangers more effective, deeper or better prepared for another possibly more successful playoff run. If anything has been brought to light in the the new NHL, it's the team that can roll 4 lines and not have the play nosedive are more apt to succeed.

Does this signing accomplish or further the goals of having a complete group of 4 lines? F-no, that's why people are so concerned, it's a freaking legitimate concern.

So posts saying," Hey it's only a 4th line forward", make me think that the said poster didn't pay any attention to what went on in the playoffs, and not just this year, no offense.

 

[Fletch]

Again, the Rangers depth particularly the fourth line, was integral to the Stanley Cup Run. It's why many posters are not liking this pick up. It's not making the Rangers more effective, deeper or better prepared for another possibly more successful playoff run. If anything has been brought to light in the the new NHL, it's the team that can roll 4 lines and not have the play nosedive are more apt to succeed.

Does this signing accomplish or further the goals of having a complete group of 4 lines? F-no, that's why people are so concerned, it's a freaking legitimate concern.

So posts saying," Hey it's only a 4th line forward", make me think that the said poster didn't pay any attention to what went on in the playoffs, and not just this year, no offense.

What's your solution? There is a cap. You can't really pay to keep Boyle while keeping other people on the team. And I do recognize the importance of the fourth line. I stated as such in many cases, but still, if the other three lines aren't scoring, and if the defense isn't doing their thing, and if, despite the fourth line's ability to shutdown top lines Henrik STILL somehow needs to stand on his head, then the fourth line is barely noticeable. Need to score more than 12 goals in a season to get to the playoffs. And it's a formula. It's an entire team that needs to be signed. Keeping a Boyle at $500k more than Glass is tough when you're trying to fill other holes, like a centerman, and trying to resign guys who you expect to score more than 20 goals this season for the fourth line's play to even matter. I do pay attention. I also understand there is a mathematical equation and you need to take the team as a whole and not each piece.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

Why isn't this a Gorton move?

Because it sucks. Duh.

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

It's a management move and they're all ****ing stupid, coaches included, for allowing this to happen.

Just when you think they're past this stupidity.

I just dont get it.

Just dont sign Glass and Im feeling a lot better about yesterday

 

[Bleed Ranger Blue]

What's your solution? There is a cap. You can't really pay to keep Boyle while keeping other people on the team. And I do recognize the importance of the fourth line. I stated as such in many cases, but still, if the other three lines aren't scoring, and if the defense isn't doing their thing, and if, despite the fourth line's ability to shutdown top lines Henrik STILL somehow needs to stand on his head, then the fourth line is barely noticeable. Need to score more than 12 goals in a season to get to the playoffs. And it's a formula. It's an entire team that needs to be signed. Keeping a Boyle at $500k more than Glass is tough when you're trying to fill other holes, like a centerman, and trying to resign guys who you expect to score more than 20 goals this season for the fourth line's play to even matter. I do pay attention. I also understand there is a mathematical equation and you need to take the team as a whole and not each piece.

I'd prefer a solution that is more uniform. You want to let Boyle and Pouliot go? You want to trade Dorsett for cap space? OK fine.

But dont turn around and sign Tanner glass for 3 years and $1.5M per. Thats not a cheap 4th line option, especially for a player thats not very good.

 

[mulli25]

At the end of the day, if the worst thing that happened in free agency is 1.45M to a garbage enforcer, i think i can live with that.

Tough to see Boyle and Stralman go but I understand the circumstances that led to those two things happening.

 

[AHB*]

At the end of the day, if the worst thing that happened in free agency is 1.45M to a garbage enforcer, i think i can live with that.

Tough to see Boyle and Stralman go but I understand the circumstances that led to those two things happening.

I can't.

Boogaard
Brashear
Rupp
Shelley
Voros

When is this going to stop!

 

[Fletch]

I'd prefer a solution that is more uniform. You want to let Boyle and Pouliot go? You want to trade Dorsett for cap space? OK fine.

But dont turn around and sign Tanner glass for 3 years and $1.5M per. Thats not a cheap 4th line option, especially for a player thats not very good.

How much would a fourth liner cost? He's $500k+ (or more) less than Boyle. That money has to be spent to sign someone else, obviously and was a factor in not keeping Boyle. Is he worse than Dorsett? Thought he was pretty on par, and he's a lefty shot playing the left side, which is what I assumed they were looking for. Don't know who's out there with a bit of size, who can grind it out, can score the odd goal, and take 2/3 PK shifts per game. Honestly, I do not know who's out there. Not saying this guy is great, or even good, but I don't know what the solution would be to play the left side on that line, and what the cost would be, and guessing they weren't going to spend more than $1.5MM on that spot given other constraints.

 

[Miamipuck]

What's your solution? There is a cap. You can't really pay to keep Boyle while keeping other people on the team. And I do recognize the importance of the fourth line. I stated as such in many cases, but still, if the other three lines aren't scoring, and if the defense isn't doing their thing, and if, despite the fourth line's ability to shutdown top lines Henrik STILL somehow needs to stand on his head, then the fourth line is barely noticeable.

Need to score more than 12 goals in a season to get to the playoffs. And it's a formula. It's an entire team that needs to be signed. Keeping a Boyle at $500k more than Glass is tough when you're trying to fill other holes, like a centerman, and trying to resign guys who you expect to score more than 20 goals this season for the fourth line's play to even matter. I do pay attention. I also understand there is a mathematical equation and you need to take the team as a whole and not each piece.

Hey thanks, I wasn't aware of the cap. 500m +/- isn't too big a difference to keep Boyle, if that was the real issue, by all accounts it wasn't.

I am not the GM, I don't pretend to know the solution. I do know Tanner Glass isn't the answer. Based on his history, is he going to complete the 4th line?

You basically asked why people are complaining about a 4th liner, I answered. If you know the answer, then why ask it?

I am looking at the bright side, this signing makes the likelihood of a kid sticking higher.

 

[mulli25]

I can't.

Boogaard
Brashear
Rupp
Shelley
Voros

When is this going to stop!

i don't like it either, but its not a "team crippleing" kind of move

He's terrible, but his salary isn't high enough to keep a better player off the ice

 

[Son of Steinbrenner]

I don't think the Rangers are replacing Boyle with Tanner Glass. I think that's a cheap argument. The Rangers are replacing Dorsett with Tanner Glass. IF this move doesn't work out as so many of you are predicting (Conveniently your post histories tell me many of you also didn't like the Carcillo move) the Rangers can dump Glass in Hartford for a $450K cap hit. Big deal!

The people that are complaining about this move and the Rangers consistent need to bring in an enforcer would undoubtedly complain if the Ranger drafted a tough guy. They are also the same people that called the Rangers soft last season and in the playoffs.

 

[Miamipuck]

I don't think the Rangers are replacing Boyle with Tanner Glass. I think that's a cheap argument. The Rangers are replacing Dorsett with Tanner Glass. IF this move doesn't work out as so many of you are predicting (Conveniently your post histories tell me many of you also didn't like the Carcillo move) the Rangers can dump Glass in Hartford for a $450K cap hit. Big deal!

The people that are complaining about this move and the Rangers consistent need to bring in an enforcer would undoubtedly complain if the Ranger drafted a tough guy. They are also the same people that called the Rangers soft last season and in the playoffs.

A tough guy that can play is not equal to a tough guy that can't. Since, I am one of those complaining about Glass, your post is a bunch of nonsense. I am literally arguing nothing even close to what I bolded and would never, it's patently absurd.

Edit: You will find most of the vitriol directed at Carcillo was because of what he did to Gaborik, and not so much because of his specific abilities or lack there of.