Proposal: Tage Thompson for Dylan Larkin

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Who wins the trade?

  • Buffalo

    Votes: 105 34.5%
  • Detroit

    Votes: 128 42.1%
  • Both

    Votes: 7 2.3%
  • Neither

    Votes: 60 19.7%
  • Everyone

    Votes: 4 1.3%

  • Total voters
    304
Both franchises are sinking in the standings

The Wings have 15 points in the last 10 games and are currently in the playoffs if started today . Not bad for a sinking ship


I know ,I know , that was wayyyy back , sometimes the best trades are the ones you don’t make .. have a great Sunday
 
Tage isn’t part of the reason we are ass and I don’t think a swap would improve us significantly but I’d do it.

I would absolutely love Tage on the Red Wings, but personally, would pass on trading Larkin for him.

Tage is an excellent player!
 
My god Dylan Larkin gets zero respect.

Buffalo wins all day. Every day.

If anything, he gets too much respect. Buffalo fans all remember a nationally televised game between the (then) Eichel-led Sabres and Wings where the broadcast crew wouldn’t shut up about *the* great American center in the game: Dylan Larkin.

He’s a good player. He’s not better than Tage, (and, of course, he was never remotely close to Eichel).
 
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Tage Thompson a 40-50 goal scorer making only 7 million a season is worth more than Dylan Larkin.

The value of the contract adds to the value of the player. Probably one of the best contracts in the league.
 
I wouldn't trade either.

I'd prefer to see the Buffalo front office get off their collective lazy, ignorant a##es, make some moves and build a contender. They got ample parts to sell to get the pieces to build one but stupidity and apathy seems to be how they roll and I'm not even a Sabres fan per se and how that franchise is won irritates me to no end.

Thanks for ROR btw, but even that should illustrate my point. Everyone who is good on that team seems to be either ignored, misused or treated like some sort of pariah.
 
At first, I immediately thought this was Tage all
Day. But then I took a quick look and noticed that other than Tage’s one outlier season, Larkin seems to put up the more consistent and better stats. Add in Larkin’s defensive play and I might be taking Larkin.

Tage Thompson a 40-50 goal scorer making only 7 million a season is worth more than Dylan Larkin.

The value of the contract adds to the value of the player. Probably one of the best contracts in the league.
Tage put up 40 goals once. Not to say he won’t do that again, but to call him a 40-50 goal scorer when he’s only done that once is a bit dishonest.
 
At first, I immediately thought this was Tage all
Day. But then I took a quick look and noticed that other than Tage’s one outlier season, Larkin seems to put up the more consistent and better stats. Add in Larkin’s defensive play and I might be taking Larkin.


Tage put up 40 goals once. Not to say he won’t do that again, but to call him a 40-50 goal scorer when he’s only done that once is a bit dishonest.
If a player puts up 40 goals does that make him a 40 goal scorer? He is also on track for 40 this year.
 
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If a player puts up 40 goals does that make him a 40 goal scorer? He is also on track for 40 this year.
Yes, he was a 40 goal scorer once. Calling him a 40-50 goal scorer, however, based on the one season isn’t really being honest. He had 38 the season before and 29 the season after. So he’s more of a 30-40 goal scorer thus far with an outlier season. And he’s pacing for 39 this season which also fits into the 30-40 range. Using his single highest season to portray him as such is a bit silly when he hasn’t come close to repeating it.
 
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I’m kinda speechless at the talent evaluation that this thread has produced.

Tage is amazing but his style of play is very far from what the nhl wants. This imo leads to his extremely sporadic deployment and heavily restricts winger options. It really clobbers Buffalo from a matchup perspective. Tage is extremely flawed relative to the modern nhl expectation and roles.

Larkin is an above average guy, doesn’t have the top end that Tage’s shot and drive provides, but he plays much closer to the game the nhl wants. Much more complete player. Can run possession, finish, net front, kill penalties, can center his line as a shutdown or counterattack. Can use him in various typical roles and he does well. Really not restricted with him unless the opponents happen to have something freakish like McDavid and then he needs help like most anybody else.

I highly doubt that there is a single gm who would say 1 Larkin is worth 2 tages. He’s worth more than 2 tages. Tage Thompson would be worth more if the nhl were a skill competition but it isn’t, it’s a team sport. I do have to say tages game could improve. Perhaps by the end of his career will see him grow to the level that he can be relied on for more than 1 thing.

Larkin is a guy who will be a first line center in all conditions for 10+ years, a guy who will substantially define multiple decades for a team.

Thompson is a guy who needs 22 and 23 year olds to start in the defensive end so he can get the offensive zone starts while they’re in trade rumors. He’s like they stretched out Matt Duchene then that guy had a baby with Matt Hoffman. He’s fine but it’s disrespectful to Larkin to consider them similar imo.
you are suggesting that Thompson doesn't play defense....he's one of the best Pking forwards too his problems are turnovers in the Ozone trying to 1 man his way through a team not playing defense.
 
Yes, he was a 40 goal scorer once. Calling him a 40-50 goal scorer, however, based on the one season isn’t really being honest. He had 38 the season before and 29 the season after. So he’s more of a 30-40 goal scorer thus far with an outlier season. And he’s pacing for 39 this season which also fits into the 30-40 range. Using his single highest season to portray him as such is a bit silly when he hasn’t come close to repeating it.

Making a semantics-based argument when you are wrong semantically is certainly a choice. He scored 47 goals two years ago, that’s a 40 goal scorer

In the last three years he has 38 goals in 78 games, 47 goals in 78 games, 29 goals in 71 games. And this year he is pacing for 41 goals in 76 games.

The outlier year is the 29 goal season, when he played injured. He has 47 and 38 goals in the other two years, and is pacing for over 40 goals this year…by what definition is he not a 40 goal scorer?


An example of what you’re saying is like if someone said Dylan Larkin was a PPG center. He’s never done that across a full season, so that would be a bit dishonest. He’s gotten close, and has been PPG across a season while playing sixty something games, but he’s not a PPG center. I don’t think anyone would claim he is a PPG type player, but that’s an example. Tage, on the other hand, has actually scored 40 goals before (and recently). That’s why he is a 40 goal scorer
 
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Would never happen but the value seems fairish to me. Larkin's complete game offsets the age difference. Homers saying their player is worth twice as much in this thread are out to lunch.
 
Yes, he was a 40 goal scorer once. Calling him a 40-50 goal scorer, however, based on the one season isn’t really being honest. He had 38 the season before and 29 the season after. So he’s more of a 30-40 goal scorer thus far with an outlier season. And he’s pacing for 39 this season which also fits into the 30-40 range. Using his single highest season to portray him as such is a bit silly when he hasn’t come close to repeating it.
He was? Did someone take away his 40 goal season? With your logic no one in the NHL is a 50 goal scorer cause its the past. No one in the nhl is 100 point scorer cause it was in the past. Thats what you are saying right? They were though.

So McDavid is a 100 point player or McDavid was 100 point player cause he doesn't have 100 points this year. I am just trying to get a grasp on your logic.
 
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Making a semantics-based argument when you are wrong semantically is certainly a choice. He scored 47 goals two years ago, that’s a 40 goal scorer

In the last three years he has 38 goals in 78 games, 47 goals in 78 games, 29 goals in 71 games. And this year he is pacing for 41 goals in 76 games.

The outlier year is the 29 goal season, when he played injured. He has 47 and 38 goals in the other two years, and is pacing for over 40 goals this year…by what definition is he not a 40 goal scorer?
Tage Thompson, the bridge builder?
 
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Larkin fits Detroit’s rebuild time frame, how many years behind Detroit is Buffalo?
He doesn't to be honest, at least optimally. The Yzerplan failed and i expect him not to be a part of any future playoff success in the time frame Detroit could realistically get good again. He feels like a guy best traded to supplement another team on the cusp of success, like Tavares for Toronto, obviously he wasn't traded but it was kinda the same thing.
 
If anything, he gets too much respect. Buffalo fans all remember a nationally televised game between the (then) Eichel-led Sabres and Wings where the broadcast crew wouldn’t shut up about *the* great American center in the game: Dylan Larkin.

He’s a good player. He’s not better than Tage, (and, of course, he was never remotely close to Eichel).

Hallowed be his name!

Anyway, Tage has the edge offensively, Larkin has it defensively. I don't think either team wins if they trade for the other - Detroit doesn't have someone ready to take on Larkin's defensive game and Buffalo loses its only proven finisher who they don't have a replacement for.

So... neither.
 
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Hallowed be his name!

Anyway, Tage has the edge offensively, Larkin has it defensively. I don't think either team wins if they trade for the other - Detroit doesn't have someone ready to take on Larkin's defensive game and Buffalo loses its only proven finisher who they don't have a replacement for.

So... neither.
tage has edge offensively concerning his shot . but add larkins value to a team because of his puck rushing work which creates all kinds of high percentage opportunitys for his teammates and their offensive worth equals out . next get to larkins leadership value to a team and his fore/back check worth where hes a demon and its a blow out . larkins one of the most underrated by fans players in the league , so many of whom judge a players value solely on goals scored
 

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