Suter is playing the worst hockey of his career

Number8

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Probably. It's not about bad luck either, he's making defensive mistakes all over the ice. -23 in past 20 games.

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Couldn't agree more......

Please send him to Boston. We don't have any need for him, but just to do you a solid I suppose we'll take him off your hands.
 

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This is so stupid. He has a terrible plus minus because of terrible goaltending. The d is gonna be trying a lot harder when they know the guys between the pipes cant stop a beach ball let alone a hockey puck.
 

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Before anyone brings up any crap about Suter not going here or there, or should have stayed here.

Him and Parise have said multiple times over the last week that they are extremely happy with their decisions and can't imagine playing any other place.
 

Agent Zuuuub

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I love this double standard HF has for players.

I guess plus minus only matters for players like Ovechkin and Karlsson.
 

BusQuets

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It was an overreaction so I changed the title. Still though with everything that has happened to him this season but you gotta keep playing to earn that money. I wonder does he even want to play hockey atm? You would think Yeo could give him some rest but there he is playing 30min per game.
 

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I love this double standard HF has for players.

I guess plus minus only matters for players like Ovechkin and Karlsson.

Do both those teams have goaltending that is terrible like the Wild have right now?

No, they dont. Karlsson doesnt play d well. Suter does. Ovechkin has a history of not backchecking hard and floating in.

Holy hell, you also do realize plus minus is not black and white right? Suter has a bad plus minus for numerous reasons, bad goaltending is one of the biggest ones.

I point you to Shea Weber to use him as another example of a really really good dman that had his plus minus screwed up by bad goaltending last year.
 

22FUTON9

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He's just having a bad stretch, I'm sure he'll do fine.

and please don't compare him to Dion Phaneuf, they're not even in the same caliber
 

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It was an ove.rreaction so I changed the title. Still though with everything that has happened to him this season but you gotta keep playing to earn that money. I wonder does he even want to play hockey atm? You would think Yeo could give him some rest but there he is playing 30min per game.
He doesn't have to play half a game to earn his money. It's very rare for guys to play that many minutes. The only thing this will do is wear him down and assure an early retirement. He needs a good supporting cast that are SHARING minutes with him. And Yeo is the one who determines how much time he gets. He's the one that keeps throwing him out on the PP for 90 seconds. I'm sure he does want to play, but it can't be much fun right now
 

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Do both those teams have goaltending that is terrible like the Wild have right now?

No, they dont. Karlsson doesnt play d well. Suter does. Ovechkin has a history of not backchecking hard and floating in.

Holy hell, you also do realize plus minus is not black and white right? Suter has a bad plus minus for numerous reasons, bad goaltending is one of the biggest ones.

I point you to Shea Weber to use him as another example of a really really good dman that had his plus minus screwed up by bad goaltending last year.

The season Karlsson was established as a "bad" dman in the HF boards hive mind was his 20 year old sophomore where he went -30.

In that season
Alfredsson : -19
Fisher : -19 in 55 games
Kuba: -26 >>> next season plus 26 playing with Karlsson.
Phillips : -35
Kelly:-12

The goalie? 3.19 gaa and a .894 save

But no one actually looked at that lol, they just extrapolated that he was a bad defenceman.

Obviously Suter is not a bad dman , and neither is Karlsson.

Yet the HF hive mind would disagree.
 

Agent Zuuuub

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Do both those teams have goaltending that is terrible like the Wild have right now?

No, they dont. Karlsson doesnt play d well. Suter does. Ovechkin has a history of not backchecking hard and floating in.

Holy hell, you also do realize plus minus is not black and white right? Suter has a bad plus minus for numerous reasons, bad goaltending is one of the biggest ones.

I point you to Shea Weber to use him as another example of a really really good dman that had his plus minus screwed up by bad goaltending last year.

Lol so only Weber and Suter are allowed to have reasons or excuses for a bad plus minus? While Ovechkin or Karlsson plus minus are definitive... Hive mind at work.
 

BusQuets

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Using +/- to evaluate a minute muncher on a struggling team is totally short-sighted.

I'm not only using that, i'm also watching the games but i just put it there to show how bad things have been going for him. For a top-5 defenseman those numbers are brutal. He just doesn't seem like he is enjoying the game at all.
 

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He'll be fine come next season. He's had to deal with a lot this season and Yeo playing him into the ground isn't helping. This team is beyond awful right now so I could care less how good or bad he plays, we all know he'll be just fine once the team rights itself, whether that be sometime this season or maybe next season.
 

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The season Karlsson was established as a "bad" dman in the HF boards hive mind was his 20 year old sophomore where he went -30.

In that season
Alfredsson : -19
Fisher : -19 in 55 games
Kuba: -26 >>> next season plus 26 playing with Karlsson.
Phillips : -35
Kelly:-12

The goalie? 3.19 gaa and a .894 save

But no one actually looked at that lol, they just extrapolated that he was a bad defenceman.

Obviously Suter is not a bad dman , and neither is Karlsson.

Yet the HF hive mind would disagree.

Sorry, Karlsson is bad on defense. He is a great offensive dman, but he is not great defensively.
 

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I'm not only using that, i'm also watching the games but i just put it there to show how bad things have been going for him. For a top-5 defenseman those numbers are brutal. He just doesn't seem like he is enjoying the game at all.

Hard to enjoy playing when you are getting gassed and your goalies cant stop much.
 

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Probably. It's not about bad luck either, he's making defensive mistakes all over the ice. -23 in past 20 games.

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That's what happens when you sign a 98 million dollar deal. 10% of them work out.
 

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